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#646 Aug 28, 2013
lol wrote:
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The amount of arrogance that oozes form you and Nettiebelle is ridiculous and the both of you are so hypocritical in your holy pronouncements that you are blind to it.
No, Nettie is quite well versed on all things Christ, the Bible, Baptists and Catholics. I understand Christianity, having spent 45 years as a Christian. You just can't defend your faith and that really irritates the heck out of you...but it doesn't make either Nettie nor I hypocritical in our knowledge and beliefs.
Dionysus

Tempe, AZ

#647 Aug 28, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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No, Nettie is quite well versed on all things Christ, the Bible, Baptists and Catholics. I understand Christianity, having spent 45 years as a Christian. You just can't defend your faith and that really irritates the heck out of you...but it doesn't make either Nettie nor I hypocritical in our knowledge and beliefs.
Unlike you and Buddhism lover! I've been watching you over here 'debating'(or whatever it is you think you're doing) and claiming that Buddhism isn't a religion.

You haven't changed one bit in the few years since I've seen you. You say Buddhism isn't a religion even though Wikipedia, the Encyclopedia Britannica, and the dictionary all disagree with you! ROFLMAO!!

Get back to WV and I'll have the lizard ready for you!
Dionysus

Tempe, AZ

#648 Aug 28, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Buddhism isn't a religion...and reincarnation has been established as existing...
And bring some of whatever weed, drugs, or alcohol you're using. You're slipping more into the absurd with every post.

Plus it'll help with the lizard. ;)
lol

Welch, WV

#649 Aug 28, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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"True" scholars? Plaese, provide your sources.
And nothing has been debunked. The problem for you is, you believe this somehow threatens your beliefs so you lie about it all being a lies...it's not..and the REAL Christians aren't affected by this at all.
First off, you are no one of any importance. Secondly, you list scriptures from a site you do not give sources for and think you are making a point when you're not.

Now, to debunk your pagan claims. And please, follow the link and prepare to be mortally embarrassed. Or you should be but you don't have any sense of shame what with all your fake claims and all.

http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/osy.html

Horus

Now we get to the matters of Horus. Many of these have had some input from Miller, so we'll report those and add as needed.

Was born of the virgin Isis-Meri in December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men. The lit has confirmed what Miller offers, and I have also seen the depiction he refers to below. I have found no reference to a cave/manger -- Frazer [Fraz.AAO, 8] has Horus born in the swamps, and knows nothing about a star or Wise Men, of any number.

...Horus was NOT born of a virgin at all. Indeed, one ancient Egyptian relief depicts this conception by showing his mother Isis in a falcon form, hovering over an erect phallus of a dead and prone Osiris in the Underworld (EOR, s.v. "Phallus"). And the Dec 25 issue is of no relevance to us--nowhere does the NT associate this date with Jesus' birth at all.

Indeed, the description of the conception of Horus will show exactly the sexual elements that characterize pagan 'miracle births', as noted by the scholars earlier:

"But after she [i.e., Isis] had brought it [i.e. Osiris' body] back to Egypt, Seth managed to get hold of Osiris's body again and cut it up into fourteen parts, which she scattered all over Egypt. Then Isis went out to search for Osiris a second time and buried each part where she found it (hence the many tombs of Osiris that exist in Egypt). The only part that she did not find was the god's penis, for Seth had thrown it into the river, where it had been eaten by a fish; Isis therefore fashioned a substitute penis to put in its place. She had also had sexual intercourse with Osisis after his death, which resulted in the conception and birth of his posthumous son, Harpocrates, Horus-the-child. Osiris became king of the netherworld, and Horus proceeded to fight with Seth..." [CANE:2:1702; emphasis mine][BTW, the Hebrew word 'satan' is not a 'cognate' of the name 'seth' by any means: "The root *STN is not evidenced in any of the cognate languages in texts that are prior to or contemporary with its occurrences in the Hebrew Bible" DDD, s.v. 1369f]
lol

Welch, WV

#650 Aug 28, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Really? So you have no strong opinions on these contradictions?
44. Baptism commanded
Matt 28:19
Baptism not commanded
1 Cor 1:17,14
45. Every kind of animal allowed for food.
Gen 9:3/ 1 Cor 10:25/ Rom 14:14
Certain kinds of animals prohibited for food.
Deut 14:7,8
46. Taking of oaths sanctioned
Num 30:2/ Gen 21:23-24,31/ Gen 31:53/ Heb 6:13
Taking of oaths forbidden
Matt 5:34
47. Marriage approved
Gen 2:18/ Gen 1:28/ Matt 19:5/ Heb 13:4
Marriage disapproved
1 Cor 7:1/ 1 Cor 7:7,8
48. Freedom of divorce permitted
Deut 24:1/ Deut 21:10,11,14
Divorce restricted
Matt 5:32
49. Adultery forbidden
Ex 20:14/ Heb 13:4
Adultery allowed
Num 31:18/ Hos 1:2; 2:1-3
50. Marriage or cohabitation with a sister denounced
Deut 27:22/ Lev 20:17
Abraham married his sister and God blessed the union
Gen 20:11,12/ Gen 17:16
Again, I will not comment on scriptures you have copy and pasted from a site without even knowing what it means. You have NOT looked into these scriptures to see for yourself if they contradict,(Which they do NOT). You are the same as a liar.
lol

Welch, WV

#652 Aug 28, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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No, Nettie is quite well versed on all things Christ, the Bible, Baptists and Catholics. I understand Christianity, having spent 45 years as a Christian. You just can't defend your faith and that really irritates the heck out of you...but it doesn't make either Nettie nor I hypocritical in our knowledge and beliefs.
You spent 45 years speaking in tongues and rolling in the floor and THOUGHT you were a Christian.
lol

Welch, WV

#653 Aug 28, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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"True" scholars? Plaese, provide your sources.
And nothing has been debunked. The problem for you is, you believe this somehow threatens your beliefs so you lie about it all being a lies...it's not..and the REAL Christians aren't affected by this at all.
Get an education, Until then just go back in the corner.

http://beginningandend.com/jesus-copy-horus-m...

Zeitgeist continues as do the skeptics with the idea that Christianity itself is a copy of the cult of Mithras, which was popularized in Rome in the 1st to 4th Century AD (note that it sprung up in Rome after the death of Christ and centuries after the Old Testament prophecies of the Coming Messiah). The movie states:

“Mithras was born of a virgin”— There are almost no early writings about the cult of Mithras and most of what is known is based on artwork (as opposed to Jesus Christ, of whom thousands of ancient manuscripts exist that describe His life, death and resurrection in detail). But according to historians, Mithras was born from a rock, not from a virgin or from a person at all.

“Mithras was born on December 25.”— Once again, the date of December 25th is not mentioned in the Bible and thus holds no significance to the story of Jesus Christ. Additionally, in Mithraism there is no date of Mithras’ birth.
lol

Welch, WV

#654 Aug 28, 2013
Beyond Intelligent Design wrote:
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Wayne? Are you reincarnate?
Cripes! Who is Wayne?

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#655 Aug 29, 2013
lol wrote:
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Again, I will not comment on scriptures you have copy and pasted from a site without even knowing what it means. You have NOT looked into these scriptures to see for yourself if they contradict,(Which they do NOT). You are the same as a liar.
Don't know what they mean? The passages are right there. You KNOW what it means...they contradict. And I'm not liar....you're just too afraid to realize that you still can follow Christ's teachings regardless of the biblical contradictions.

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#656 Aug 29, 2013
lol wrote:
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Floundering around with the debunked claims of Christians stole from pagans. True scholars don't even bring that up in debate anymore because it has been DEBUNKED so many times it is laughable. The only place you find juvenile debate tactics such as this are from uninformed bigoted skeptics on Christian forum sites. Sounds like you.
It's never been debunked....these other gods have existed in societies...and people worshiped them.

Your fear of this makes you insecure in your belief. Christians are not shaken by truth...not evolution, not previous deities, because they follow Christ's teachings.

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#657 Aug 29, 2013
lol wrote:
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There is no picking and choosing in true Christianity. The simple fact is accept the free Salvation that is offered through the sacrifice of Christ or burn. Period.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Show me a verse that contradicts that.
What's sin? If that is all you have to believe, then is sin important?

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#658 Aug 29, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
First off, you are no one of any importance. Secondly, you list scriptures from a site you do not give sources for and think you are making a point when you're not.
Now, to debunk your pagan claims. And please, follow the link and prepare to be mortally embarrassed. Or you should be but you don't have any sense of shame what with all your fake claims and all.
http://www.tektonics.org/copycat/osy.html
Horus
Now we get to the matters of Horus. Many of these have had some input from Miller, so we'll report those and add as needed.
Was born of the virgin Isis-Meri in December 25th in a cave/manger with his birth being announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men. The lit has confirmed what Miller offers, and I have also seen the depiction he refers to below. I have found no reference to a cave/manger -- Frazer [Fraz.AAO, 8] has Horus born in the swamps, and knows nothing about a star or Wise Men, of any number.
...Horus was NOT born of a virgin at all. Indeed, one ancient Egyptian relief depicts this conception by showing his mother Isis in a falcon form, hovering over an erect phallus of a dead and prone Osiris in the Underworld (EOR, s.v. "Phallus"). And the Dec 25 issue is of no relevance to us--nowhere does the NT associate this date with Jesus' birth at all.
Indeed, the description of the conception of Horus will show exactly the sexual elements that characterize pagan 'miracle births', as noted by the scholars earlier:
"But after she [i.e., Isis] had brought it [i.e. Osiris' body] back to Egypt, Seth managed to get hold of Osiris's body again and cut it up into fourteen parts, which she scattered all over Egypt. Then Isis went out to search for Osiris a second time and buried each part where she found it (hence the many tombs of Osiris that exist in Egypt). The only part that she did not find was the god's penis, for Seth had thrown it into the river, where it had been eaten by a fish; Isis therefore fashioned a substitute penis to put in its place. She had also had sexual intercourse with Osisis after his death, which resulted in the conception and birth of his posthumous son, Harpocrates, Horus-the-child. Osiris became king of the netherworld, and Horus proceeded to fight with Seth..." [CANE:2:1702; emphasis mine][BTW, the Hebrew word 'satan' is not a 'cognate' of the name 'seth' by any means: "The root *STN is not evidenced in any of the cognate languages in texts that are prior to or contemporary with its occurrences in the Hebrew Bible" DDD, s.v. 1369f]
http://tektonics.org/

Are any of these guys scholars from universities or seminars? Looks like just a bunch of guys writing to appease the born again evangelicals.

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#659 Aug 29, 2013
lol wrote:
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You spent 45 years speaking in tongues and rolling in the floor and THOUGHT you were a Christian.
No, I was Lutheran..the oldest PROTESTANT religion in the US. No fringe group religion for me.

Since: Sep 08

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#660 Aug 29, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
Get an education, Until then just go back in the corner.
http://beginningandend.com/jesus-copy-horus-m...
Zeitgeist continues as do the skeptics with the idea that Christianity itself is a copy of the cult of Mithras, which was popularized in Rome in the 1st to 4th Century AD (note that it sprung up in Rome after the death of Christ and centuries after the Old Testament prophecies of the Coming Messiah). The movie states:
“Mithras was born of a virgin”— There are almost no early writings about the cult of Mithras and most of what is known is based on artwork (as opposed to Jesus Christ, of whom thousands of ancient manuscripts exist that describe His life, death and resurrection in detail). But according to historians, Mithras was born from a rock, not from a virgin or from a person at all.
“Mithras was born on December 25.”— Once again, the date of December 25th is not mentioned in the Bible and thus holds no significance to the story of Jesus Christ. Additionally, in Mithraism there is no date of Mithras’ birth.
Education? From the End timers? Get real. They can't educate themselves about when the world will end...what's it been, 4,792 predictions so far?

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#661 Aug 29, 2013
Beyond Intelligent Design wrote:
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Wayne? Are you reincarnate?
LOL!!!!

Yup...he's Bbbbaaaaaccccckkkkk.

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#664 Aug 29, 2013
Helpful Hints wrote:
<quoted text>I see this Nettie person as simply a copy & paste version of the Catholic church. She is not versed on Christ, the Bible, Christianity and the first Christians who were ALL Jews.
Does it irritate you just as much not being able to defend Buddhism?
The Truth of Buddhism
We are not saying that Buddhism is the truth faith. But, all faiths do have truth in them. Although in faiths other than Christianity that truth comes from man's wisdom, that does not make it automatically wrong. There is agreement on the issue of homosexuality. God, who created us, says homosexual acts are wrong (Christianity and Judaism). Islam says homosexuality is wrong. Buddhism says homosexual acts are wrong.
In the Vinaya (regulations for Buddhist monks), the Buddha states that those who openly expressed cross-gender features or strong homosexual desires and actions may not become a monk. Note that just having homosexual desires eliminates the person from the possibility of being a Buddhist monk.
So, can you defend your faith?
Nettie explains the stands of the Catholic church by using Catholic sites to do it. It's far more honest than your using Born Again Evangelical Family Research Council and the Christian Research Institute to explain Buddhism

Buddhism has survived for centuries and will continue to do so. Your lies won't change a thing about it. I don't need to defend..I practice it and that's what's important in Buddhism.

You have your beliefs...I have my spirituality.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#665 Aug 29, 2013
Helpful Hints wrote:
<quoted text>I see this Nettie person as simply a copy & paste version of the Catholic church. She is not versed on Christ, the Bible, Christianity and the first Christians who were ALL Jews.
Does it irritate you just as much not being able to defend Buddhism?
The Truth of Buddhism
We are not saying that Buddhism is the truth faith. But, all faiths do have truth in them. Although in faiths other than Christianity that truth comes from man's wisdom, that does not make it automatically wrong. There is agreement on the issue of homosexuality. God, who created us, says homosexual acts are wrong (Christianity and Judaism). Islam says homosexuality is wrong. Buddhism says homosexual acts are wrong.
In the Vinaya (regulations for Buddhist monks), the Buddha states that those who openly expressed cross-gender features or strong homosexual desires and actions may not become a monk. Note that just having homosexual desires eliminates the person from the possibility of being a Buddhist monk.
So, can you defend your faith?
The only thing that really matters is whether she's a better person than you are or not. We don't really have much to go on except she's been here for five years and you've been here for five hours and you hate anyone that's not like you in every way.
lol

Welch, WV

#666 Aug 29, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Don't know what they mean? The passages are right there. You KNOW what it means...they contradict. And I'm not liar....you're just too afraid to realize that you still can follow Christ's teachings regardless of the biblical contradictions.
My answer means I could explain them to you BUT you would ignore it because you would not understand it.
lol

Welch, WV

#667 Aug 29, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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http://tektonics.org/
Are any of these guys scholars from universities or seminars? Looks like just a bunch of guys writing to appease the born again evangelicals.
And your scholars? Are they scholars on fairy tales because that is what the stories of Horus and your other pagan gods are, fairy tales. Jesus DID live. He walked the earth unlike your pagan gods.

You will get no argument from me because I do not concern myself with pagan activities.
lol

Welch, WV

#668 Aug 29, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Nettie explains the stands of the Catholic church by using Catholic sites to do it. It's far more honest than your using Born Again Evangelical Family Research Council and the Christian Research Institute to explain Buddhism
Buddhism has survived for centuries and will continue to do so. Your lies won't change a thing about it. I don't need to defend..I practice it and that's what's important in Buddhism.
You have your beliefs...I have my spirituality.
Which is religion. And there are lying spirits and that is what is guiding you.

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