all bets are off Christian's !

[PROV1X81]

we need a break from the wayne controversy so I thought id really through a curve ball with this
new information.
I've said all my life if they exist everything about religion will be disentigrated and this might actually be something.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088...

[Crusade7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Wayne]

First chapter of Ezekiel could very well describe a UFO encounter, also when Elijah was taken up in a "chariot of fire." The ancients really had no other way of describing "alien" life or their means of transportation. Do you believe in different dimensions? As in, other beings right among us but we are not aware of them?

[PROV1X81]

Wayne wrote:

First chapter of Ezekiel could very well describe a UFO encounter, also when Elijah was taken up in a "chariot of fire." The ancients really had no other way of describing "alien" life or their means of transportation. Do you believe in different dimensions? As in, other beings right among us but we are not aware of them?

I almost stunned you you think its possible they exist and have been here all along.
that being said do you not think they could have had any influence on who we are and what we are?

[Logical Butterfly]

See www.ufocasebook.com


I have to agree with Prov on this note. But it still doesn't mean God doesn't exist...it means he created aliens also.

[Wayne]

PROV1X81 wrote:

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I almost stunned you you think its possible they exist and have been here all along.
that being said do you not think they could have had any influence on who we are and what we are?

You have to understand what I'm saying here. Yes, I believe there are other dimensions beyond our capabilities of understanding. For NOW. I also believe those other beings can be seen, IF they allow it. I do NOT however believe they are from another planet. Heck, I believe there really is a Bigfoot out and about too. We say the world is getting smaller,, it really isn't, it's the technology that makes it SEEM like it's getting smaller. There are still places on earth that haven't been touched by man so we really don't know as much as we think we do. All this and I STILL believe in the bible.

[Crusade7]

PROV1X81 wrote:

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I almost stunned you you think its possible they exist and have been here all along.
that being said do you not think they could have had any influence on who we are and what we are?

I don't believe they come from other planets. I don't believe lightspeed travel is possible physically. I believe they are interdimensional beings.

[Wayne]

Logical Butterfly wrote:

See www.ufocasebook.com
I have to agree with Prov on this note. But it still doesn't mean God doesn't exist...it means he created aliens also.

Yep! I believe there are some things that Christians believe that would absolutely stun the non-believer. And we believe it because with God ALL things are possible.

[Logical Butterfly]

PROV1X81 wrote:

we need a break from the wayne controversy so I thought id really through a curve ball with this
new information.
I've said all my life if they exist everything about religion will be disentigrated and this might actually be something.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24070088...

Hey whats up Prov...
Ok, I have to ask, Why would making this discovery prove the inexistence of God??? And why would religion be disentigrated?

[Father Of 4]

Wayne wrote:

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You have to understand what I'm saying here. Yes, I believe there are other dimensions beyond our capabilities of understanding. For NOW. I also believe those other beings can be seen, IF they allow it. I do NOT however believe they are from another planet. Heck, I believe there really is a Bigfoot out and about too. We say the world is getting smaller,, it really isn't, it's the technology that makes it SEEM like it's getting smaller. There are still places on earth that haven't been touched by man so we really don't know as much as we think we do. All this and I STILL believe in the bible.

Wow you amaze me sometimes. Though i can't still shake the feeling something is up. But Nice to see a logical side to you

[Wayne]

Father Of 4 wrote:

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Wow you amaze me sometimes. Though i can't still shake the feeling something is up. But Nice to see a logical side to you

Nothings up. I see plenty of logic in the Word too. I don't trust Russia either.

[Wayne]

Crusade7 wrote:

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I don't believe they come from other planets. I don't believe lightspeed travel is possible physically. I believe they are interdimensional beings.

Interdimensional! Yeah, that's the word!

[Father Of 4]

Wayne wrote:

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Nothings up. I see plenty of logic in the Word too. I don't trust Russia either.

I would sooner trust Russia then some of the over zealous ones here. You are showing you aren't so bad. I've been seeing how yo uhave been toning down a bit. Almost brings a tear to my eye. Actually seeing people get along as best they can.

[Wayne]

Father Of 4 wrote:

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I would sooner trust Russia then some of the over zealous ones here. You are showing you aren't so bad. I've been seeing how yo uhave been toning down a bit. Almost brings a tear to my eye. Actually seeing people get along as best they can.

The only thing about that is this... Russia is SECRETLY working behind the scenes. At least the over zealous ones here say it right out. There is a reason Russia is like she is. She hates EVERY God fearing nation, or at least those nations that still aren't afraid to declare God publicly if they mean it or not, not just us.

[Father Of 4]

Wayne wrote:

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The only thing about that is this... Russia is SECRETLY working behind the scenes. At least the over zealous ones here say it right out. There is a reason Russia is like she is. She hates EVERY God fearing nation, or at least those nations that still aren't afraid to declare God publicly if they mean it or not, not just us.

Shrug I've worked with the former soviet union coming on base to check stuff IAW STAR Treaty. Not that bad very low sense of humor though as far as I've seen.

[Wayne]

Father Of 4 wrote:

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Shrug I've worked with the former soviet union coming on base to check stuff IAW STAR Treaty. Not that bad very low sense of humor though as far as I've seen.

AhHa! No sense of humor is key. Bears only want to maul if they feel threatened.

[Logical Butterfly]

Wayne wrote:

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Yep! I believe there are some things that Christians believe that would absolutely stun the non-believer. And we believe it because with God ALL things are possible.

Thats right Wayne...you know you are forever my homeboy, should've been my brother, since I don't have any siblings...
And you know what else...there are many universes, places we can never touch due to our insignificant technology. God already knows they are there, our small minds just can't fathom that. I guess you checked out the casebook? I read all the history...did you see the date page that takes it way back and then shows the most recent citings? I read all of it about 3 months ago and some I believe but some that wanted to remain anonymous for fear of people thinking they were crazy..yeah, they happened. Mostly by airbases and I am assuming because of all the power from there..and Roswell, oh it happened. The government has been covering up things for ages and still are. They think the world CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH. I guess they haven't visited topix.:)

[Logical Butterfly]

Wayne wrote:

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AhHa! No sense of humor is key. Bears only want to maul if they feel threatened.

Oh and is that forever true..but if you wanna rub their bellies and give em a steak, betcha they will eat right outa your hand...like I have seen so many do.

[Logical Butterfly]

Wayne wrote:

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Interdimensional! Yeah, that's the word!

Yeah Interdimensional..I like it!!

[angelina]

Crusade7 wrote:

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I don't believe they come from other planets. I don't believe lightspeed travel is possible physically. I believe they are interdimensional beings.

Yes I think there are interdimensional beings but I think it is like the Bibke says, a spiritual realm.
These so called alien sightings are, I think, when beings from the spiritual become visible in our realm for a time.
I also wonder if, now we are in the end days, these sightings will increase.