A New Earth...
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#21 Jul 29, 2013
Jesus My Lord wrote:
There is but one God, He is God. He is not a product of your religion. Your religion is a product of denying His Son, Jesus,which is the only way to God.
God appeared to Moses, Satan appeared to Jesus. They are messengers of two different Gods. Moses words stand forever because they are Gods words. Jesus is proven to be a false prophet. He said the end would come within a generation, or 40 years. "Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom". Matthew 16:28.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#22 Jul 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
Satan appeared to Jesus.
You actually believe that?
Cisco Kid

United States

#23 Jul 29, 2013
JJJ wrote:
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Man is so attached to form, the physical our ego that we can't just 'accept'..
No we have to attach a physical form to everything or as in your statement above.....
Instead of just accepting that we have the ability to contemplate ourselves, you need a being to link yourself to..
And so once again... man has created god(s) in his own image...
When you do what you have above.... when you have the faith that you have in 'god', you actually remove yourself from the universal energy that has always existed....
The truth is that we and every particle of matter in existence (forgive my reference if it is unscientific for while I respect science immensely it is not my forte)...
But again, we are actual units of the same universal energy that has always existed, that went bang and began the expansion of the universe, and why we exist in this present form instead of star of some other life form> Who knows and who cares....
But the religious cannot accept this information for it is too amazing too grand to universal'... in short too wonderful.
So instead we go along with others, primitive others that rather than accept this truth would rather invent the 'gods' and instead of being who we are, we prefer to serve a figment of the human mind.
Madness..... and when we look at history, madness on a global scale.
You have a flat linear understanding of reality.

No other Earth being has the ability of cognizant thinking, the ability to look at the past and arrange the future.
The ability to create from imagination.

If evolution from lesser species is correct, how could this cognitive thinking descend from that with does not possess cognitive thinking?
It would be a miracle for something to come from nothing.

The truth is that we, and every particle of matter in existence, are actual units of the same universal energy that has always existed, that went bang and began the expansion of the universe.
Those of the aware know that energy source as.....God.

This is why we are adopted children of the universal energy that has always existed....
We are on the inside looking out while you remain on the outside looking in....scratching your head.
The truth works

United States

#24 Jul 29, 2013
JJJ wrote:
Although I don't believe in any religious god let alone their 'scriptures', never the less I am a spiritual person and by that I mean I am aware that there exists n me a 'presence' a connection to the universe pulse.
I don't pretend to understand it, I sometime gets close but then just when I think I understand it I get lost in the infinity of it all....
Descartes a few hundred years ago concluded the only thing that he could be certain of was that fact that he existed... why?
Because he reasoned and then he penned these famous words "I think therefore I am'... of course he was wrong...
It was not Descartes' thoughts that proved his existence, rather it was the awareness behind his thoughts, the 'presence' or the energy that exist in every one of us and it is this awareness that I link to spirituality.
For example at night when we dream..... it is our brain processing thought that is the dream, but then there is an awareness beyond that, the part of us that knows that we are dreaming.
Unfortunately the human race, at least the majority of the human race exists n a sort of auto pilot where we let our thoughts become our reality and as such at 3.00am in the morning in a warm bed we can allow our brain to bring on an anxiety attack or make us depressed and when you think about it, we are allowing a 'mind movie' to interfere with our physical being.
Sure the subject of our thoughts may be real, as in we are going through a break up, have lost our job etc, but there and then, at 3.00 am in the morning and our pulse hastens and we begin to feel fear and ill....That is in response to thoughts... not reality..
So I would suspect that most people that read and write on this forum and other such forums, whether atheist or religionist, do so because of our spiritual side. Until the end of September I'm so busy with tax that I don't have time to read and write and I miss having that spiritual input....
I would like to suggest a book to read.... probably most of you have already read the book or at least know of it or the author's other books because it has been around for quite a few years, but for those of you that don't know of it...
The book is called 'A New Earth' and it is written by Eckhart Tolle... It will insult your atheistic intelligence nor your religious faith, he just simply and concisely explains the insanity that plagues the human race and is the cause for our dysfunction.....
Have a read of it.... it will change the way you think or more correctly put you back in the driver's seat rather than you existing on auto pilot....
Your post is quite refreshing on this bizarre forum. Unfortunately there are a lot of folks on here stuck on that auto pilot thing.
There's a lotta nuts on here.
Peace!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#25 Jul 29, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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You actually believe that?
It's in your book, the NT. Didn't Jesus spend 40 days in fast and communication with Satan? That's what the NT says. Moses also spent 40 days in fast and communication, but with God.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#26 Jul 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>It's in your book, the NT. Didn't Jesus spend 40 days in fast and communication with Satan? That's what the NT says. Moses also spent 40 days in fast and communication, but with God.
I asked if YOU believe it.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#27 Jul 29, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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I asked if YOU believe it.
It's likely, but I suspect everything in the NT. I do believe Jesus serves Satan and is his counterfeit messiah. Personally, my calling lasted 10 months. From August 1983 to May 1984. And every month something happened or was fulfilled. Jesus has been reincarnated and we are enemies.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#28 Jul 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>It's likely, but I suspect everything in the NT. I do believe Jesus serves Satan and is his counterfeit messiah. Personally, my calling lasted 10 months. From August 1983 to May 1984. And every month something happened or was fulfilled. Jesus has been reincarnated and we are enemies.
The Devil is leading you to Hell.

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#29 Jul 29, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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You have a flat linear understanding of reality.
No other Earth being has the ability of cognizant thinking, the ability to look at the past and arrange the future.
The ability to create from imagination.
If evolution from lesser species is correct, how could this cognitive thinking descend from that with does not possess cognitive thinking?
It would be a miracle for something to come from nothing.
The truth is that we, and every particle of matter in existence, are actual units of the same universal energy that has always existed, that went bang and began the expansion of the universe.
Those of the aware know that energy source as.....God.
This is why we are adopted children of the universal energy that has always existed....
We are on the inside looking out while you remain on the outside looking in....scratching your head.
It is true that humans presently have a high brain capacity and maybe it is already at its highest level where further expansion becomes impossible for physical or biological reasons.
We could have larger brains, but it will work more slowly because of the distances between the brain cell connections.

It isn’t entirely correct that we are more “intelligent” than other species, sometimes it looks as being far from that.

What makes us special is the way we are arranging our lives and our language, how we communicate and to some degree are cooperating within a society.
We still have the selfish attitude that goes against cooperation at all levels, and we are communicating emotionally more than by reason.

Could the human species improve genetically in this respect thru evolution?
Maybe we can but very slowly; just because we are already too many for being in the position of sharing new genetic improvements (mutations) in our favour to everybody.

The human species as we know it today came out of a critical situation where it almost became extinct, scientists believe that it started with only a small group of maybe 45-50 individuals who started to live in family groups, cooperating and sharing their resources.

It grew out of the old “flock and fight among the males” attitude of most of the other species.

We might say that evolution created the human species, but our success have locked us out from further genetic progress, and it could soon send us back to where it all started.
hotel practical

Crowborough, UK

#30 Jul 30, 2013
I think that the truth is in what Christ taught, but that there are so many counterfiets that people tend to throw the baby out with the bath water.

You cannot serve two masters, you can't serve God and money at the same time.

Who does Jesus say to serve? Who are people serving?
Big Al

Hibbing, MN

#31 Jul 30, 2013
"Among the sayings and discourses imputed to him [Jesus] by his biographers, I find many passages of fine imagination, correct morality, and of the most lovely benevolence; and others again of so much ignorance, so much absurdity, so much untruth, charlatanism, and imposture, as to pronounce it impossible that such contradictions should have proceeded from the same being." -Thomas Jefferson

"As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion, as he left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupt changes, and I have, with most of the present Dissenters in England, some Doubts as to his divinity; tho' it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and I think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an Opportunity of knowing the Truth with less Trouble ..." - Benjamin Franklin,1790 about a month before he died, letter to Ezra Stiles, president of Yale University
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#32 Jul 30, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
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I hope there's dogs and other critters, too......and lawns to mow.
Nothing like the rich chlorophylle smell of a new mown lawn.
Even the dogs love it, that's why they roll all over it smiling.
Even you just sit there smiling, watching in silence and then....you realize......God is in the silence, everything else is just noise.
Yes,I hope there is dogs and cats and other animals there also.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#33 Jul 30, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>It's in your book, the NT. Didn't Jesus spend 40 days in fast and communication with Satan? That's what the NT says. Moses also spent 40 days in fast and communication, but with God.
Jesus did not spend 40 days in communication with Satan he was temped by Satan.

Matthew 4:1
Darby Translation (DARBY)
4 Then Jesus was carried up into the wilderness by the Spirit to be tempted of the devil:

Hebrews 2:18
Darby Translation (DARBY)
18 for, in that himself has suffered, being tempted, he is able to help those that are being tempted.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#34 Jul 30, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus did not spend 40 days in communication with Satan he was temped by Satan.
Matthew 4:1
Darby Translation (DARBY)
4 Then Jesus was carried up into the wilderness by the Spirit to be tempted of the devil:
Hebrews 2:18
Darby Translation (DARBY)
18 for, in that himself has suffered, being tempted, he is able to help those that are being tempted.
You don't know your own book very well. Satan and Jesus talked-communicated.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#35 Jul 30, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>You don't know your own book very well. Satan and Jesus talked-communicated.
when Satan talked to Jesus he temped him.

Matthew 4:1
Darby Translation (DARBY)
4 Then Jesus was carried up into the wilderness by the Spirit to be tempted of the devil:
The Seven Spirits of God

San Antonio, TX

#36 Jul 30, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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Yes,I hope there is dogs and cats and other animals there also.
You and your wife can forget about the new Earth.

You and her will not get past hell.

Thus saith the Lord God.

None of you on this thread except I will be going to the new Earth.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#37 Jul 30, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
when Satan talked to Jesus he temped him.
Matthew 4:1
Darby Translation (DARBY)
4 Then Jesus was carried up into the wilderness by the Spirit to be tempted of the devil:
Jesus took the offer. He came out preaching the kingdom of God which won't come until the "Antichrist" brings it. The "Antichrist" is God, the Messiah.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#38 Jul 30, 2013
hotel practical wrote:
I think that the truth is in what Christ taught, but that there are so many counterfiets that people tend to throw the baby out with the bath water.
You cannot serve two masters, you can't serve God and money at the same time.
Who does Jesus say to serve? Who are people serving?
The resurrection from the dead will be the final proof. Zechariah 14:9 "...in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one".
JJJ

Sydney, Australia

#39 Jul 30, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus did not spend 40 days in communication with Satan he was temped by Satan.
Matthew 4:1
Darby Translation (DARBY)
4 Then Jesus was carried up into the wilderness by the Spirit to be tempted of the devil:
Hebrews 2:18
Darby Translation (DARBY)
18 for, in that himself has suffered, being tempted, he is able to help those that are being tempted.
What I don't understand is this: When god almighty was dissed by the devil in regard to Job, not once but twice he allowed the devil to goad him (god almighty) into committing evil ...

'The LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered My servant Job? For there is no one like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man fearing God and turning away from evil. And he still holds fast his integrity, ALTHOUGH YOU INCITED ME AGAINST HIM TO RUIN HIM WITHOUT CAUSE.(capitals added...

And yet Jesus... a mere man (even if you believe he is god as Jesus he was still a man)...

Even in a weakened state after forty days of fasting he was able to resist the taunts of the devil not once, not twice, but three times...

It would appear as with most things... we humans are more capable than the almighty...

Look at forgiveness....'god' tells us to turn the other cheek, to forgive our brother seventy times seventy, in other words eternally and yet he won't forgive us unless his son is offered up as a human sacrifice....

Paul apparently penning god's own words tells us that 'love does not keep an account of the wrong'... and yet if this is so then how is that god has a record to judge us by?
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#40 Jul 30, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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Yes,I hope there is dogs and cats and other animals there also.
Animals generally don't go to heaven, but it's possible. Ecclesiastes 3:21 "Who knows the spirit of man that goes upward, and the spirit of the beast that goes downward to the earth?"

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