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growuptheists

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Oct 10, 2007
 

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On September 22, 2000, a 55-year-old man named Ronald E. Gay, angry for being teased about his last name, entered the Back Street Café in Roanoke, Virginia, a gathering place for lesbians and gays just a few miles from Lynchburg. Confident that God's Word supported his tragic plan of action, Mr. Gay shouted, "I am a Christian soldier, working for my Lord." Claiming that "Jesus does not want these people in his heaven," he shot seven innocent gay and lesbian people. One man, Danny Overstreet, died instantly. Others still suffer from their physical and psychological wounds.
Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder
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In July 1999, Matthew Williams and his brother, Tyler, murdered a gay couple, Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder, in their home near Sacramento, California. Speaking to his mother from the Shasta County jail, Matthew explained his actions in this way: "I had to obey God's law rather than man's law," he said. "I didn't want to do this. I felt I was supposed to. I have followed a higher law... I just plan to defend myself from the Scriptures."
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Oct 10, 2007
 
hope you havent been mouthing off to anyone here...

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#3
Oct 10, 2007
 
It's interesting that in both cases the "Christians" had to step outside of the teachings of the Bible and of Christ when they did what they did.

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Oct 10, 2007
 
growuptheists wrote:
On September 22, 2000, a 55-year-old man named Ronald E. Gay, angry for being teased about his last name, entered the Back Street Café in Roanoke, Virginia, a gathering place for lesbians and gays just a few miles from Lynchburg. Confident that God's Word supported his tragic plan of action, Mr. Gay shouted, "I am a Christian soldier, working for my Lord." Claiming that "Jesus does not want these people in his heaven," he shot seven innocent gay and lesbian people. One man, Danny Overstreet, died instantly. Others still suffer from their physical and psychological wounds.
Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder
Matson and Mowder
In July 1999, Matthew Williams and his brother, Tyler, murdered a gay couple, Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder, in their home near Sacramento, California. Speaking to his mother from the Shasta County jail, Matthew explained his actions in this way: "I had to obey God's law rather than man's law," he said. "I didn't want to do this. I felt I was supposed to. I have followed a higher law... I just plan to defend myself from the Scriptures."
It is arrogance that men think God/Jesus needs their help to do any of His work....

and more importantly....since this alledged work(killing) is contrary to the teachings of Christ

“Keeping my fingers crossed ...”

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Oct 10, 2007
 
growuptheists wrote:
On September 22, 2000, a 55-year-old man named Ronald E. Gay, angry for being teased about his last name, entered the Back Street Café in Roanoke, Virginia, a gathering place for lesbians and gays just a few miles from Lynchburg. Confident that God's Word supported his tragic plan of action, Mr. Gay shouted, "I am a Christian soldier, working for my Lord." Claiming that "Jesus does not want these people in his heaven," he shot seven innocent gay and lesbian people. One man, Danny Overstreet, died instantly. Others still suffer from their physical and psychological wounds.
Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder
Matson and Mowder
In July 1999, Matthew Williams and his brother, Tyler, murdered a gay couple, Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder, in their home near Sacramento, California. Speaking to his mother from the Shasta County jail, Matthew explained his actions in this way: "I had to obey God's law rather than man's law," he said. "I didn't want to do this. I felt I was supposed to. I have followed a higher law... I just plan to defend myself from the Scriptures."
This doesn't sound like the God I was raised with. Sounds like the ravings of a couple of lunatics.
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Oct 11, 2007
 
Christians throughout history have murdered homosexuals.

However I think we can admit that these are rather extreme cases nevertheless.
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Oct 11, 2007
 
That was a lower law. Crazies.
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#8
Oct 11, 2007
 
There must be a God impersonater who told him to kill someone who is also a children of God.
He thought that he followed the scripture wholeheartedly meant that he is the only good God creature on earth and can kill anyhow. Someone evil has misled/tampered his interpretation of scripture. How can he be so cruel to his own species.
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Oct 13, 2007
 
growuptheists wrote:
On September 22, 2000, a 55-year-old man named Ronald E. Gay, angry for being teased about his last name, entered the Back Street Café in Roanoke, Virginia, a gathering place for lesbians and gays just a few miles from Lynchburg. Confident that God's Word supported his tragic plan of action, Mr. Gay shouted, "I am a Christian soldier, working for my Lord." Claiming that "Jesus does not want these people in his heaven," he shot seven innocent gay and lesbian people. One man, Danny Overstreet, died instantly. Others still suffer from their physical and psychological wounds.
Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder
Matson and Mowder
In July 1999, Matthew Williams and his brother, Tyler, murdered a gay couple, Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder, in their home near Sacramento, California. Speaking to his mother from the Shasta County jail, Matthew explained his actions in this way: "I had to obey God's law rather than man's law," he said. "I didn't want to do this. I felt I was supposed to. I have followed a higher law... I just plan to defend myself from the Scriptures."
Jesus died for everyone, for all sin. He doesn't look a homosexuality any different than any other sin. Sin is sin. I don't believe God told him to do anything. That is of his own selfish doings.
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Jul 15, 2008
 
hihihihihihihhi lowwits all around the globe harharharhar

“Jesus forgives..... ”

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Feb 6, 2010
 
Who's that god?
JESUS is

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stark wrote:
It's interesting that in both cases the "Christians" had to step outside of the teachings of the Bible and of Christ when they did what they did.
MATTHEW 7
21“Not everyone who says to Me,`Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
22“Many will say to Me on that day,`Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many Or works of power miracles?'
23“And then I will declare to them,`I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness."
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funny how christians only look at certain parts of scripture to justify what they believe and ignore other parts if you look in the bible it forbids dozens of things that are normal today and not controversial at all and homosexuality is the same way the bible was written thousands of years ago by a bunch of people who knew nothing about homosexuals and thought they were just sex crazed mental patients and had no idea they were simply differently orientated
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Jun 14, 2010
 
SSY wrote:
funny how christians only look at certain parts of scripture to justify what they believe and ignore other parts if you look in the bible it forbids dozens of things that are normal today and not controversial at all and homosexuality is the same way the bible was written thousands of years ago by a bunch of people who knew nothing about homosexuals and thought they were just sex crazed mental patients and had no idea they were simply differently orientated
And you're point is?
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Jun 14, 2010
 
Jumper wrote:
<quoted text>And you're point is?
The description of you!
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Jun 14, 2010
 
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<quoted text>The description of you!
Why are you so interested in me tonight?

I haven't seen you around in weeks and all of at once BOOM! your on my arse!
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Jun 14, 2010
 
Jumper wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you so interested in me tonight?
I haven't seen you around in weeks and all of at once BOOM! your on my arse!
Cause its so big!
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<quoted text>Cause its so big!
oh a booty chaser eh?

I get this every now and then.
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Do we also need to keep an eye on his platoon commander, Barry Fuckedbypriests?
growuptheists wrote:
On September 22, 2000, a 55-year-old man named Ronald E. Gay, angry for being teased about his last name, entered the Back Street Café in Roanoke, Virginia, a gathering place for lesbians and gays just a few miles from Lynchburg. Confident that God's Word supported his tragic plan of action, Mr. Gay shouted, "I am a Christian soldier, working for my Lord." Claiming that "Jesus does not want these people in his heaven," he shot seven innocent gay and lesbian people. One man, Danny Overstreet, died instantly. Others still suffer from their physical and psychological wounds.
Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder
Matson and Mowder
In July 1999, Matthew Williams and his brother, Tyler, murdered a gay couple, Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder, in their home near Sacramento, California. Speaking to his mother from the Shasta County jail, Matthew explained his actions in this way: "I had to obey God's law rather than man's law," he said. "I didn't want to do this. I felt I was supposed to. I have followed a higher law... I just plan to defend myself from the Scriptures."
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