What makes you think that the bible i...

dollarsbill

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#22 Mar 23, 2013
cvor wrote:
and what makes you think the bible is "evidence" of his existence?
What makes you think it isn't? Your antiChrist opinion?

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#23 Mar 23, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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What makes you think it isn't? Your antiChrist opinion?
Because by definition it is a claim. A claim is not evidence. There is no proof the claim is even possible.

dollarsbill

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#25 Mar 23, 2013
cvor wrote:
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Because by definition it is a claim. A claim is not evidence. There is no proof the claim is even possible.
Because Israel was dead and is alive. You lose.

dollarsbill

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#26 Mar 23, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Can you please show me one or more words that where actually written by god?
I can. But you being a child of Satan will reject what God said.

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#27 Mar 23, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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I can. But you being a child of Satan will reject what God said.
Your foundation is flawed because you assert Satan exists and provide no evidence for it and assume without valid demonstration that someone would reject it.

You have quite a few grandiose baseless assertions in your short post.
Rand M Sutor

United States

#28 Mar 23, 2013
-Some of you people know the Bible so well, that I can't help but believe that you've fallen from your first estate.

-Here's the problem: You were born again by putting your faith in Christ. If a person opens their heart to Christ a little or a lot, they're born-again. But after attending church awhile, and probably by false teachings, you were told you had to maintain your salvation by works. So you worked, aaaaaaaaand worked, aaaaaaaaaand worked. Pretty soon, you wore yourself out trying to maintain your salvation by works!
Something that can't be done!!!

God is not angry with you. He wants you to know the truth That-Sets-You-Free! He is married to the backslider! He wants you back but you must realize that faith in Christ is what gave you your salvation and it is the only thing that can KEEP you in Christ!

When Jesus died on that cross, God the Father forgave the sins of the whole world. Now, all that's left, is for each person on this earth who desires to do so, is to come to God by putting their faith in Christ to receive that forgiveness!

If you stood before a Judge who was about to pass
judgement on you for your crimes, but instead, he
looked over at the Bailiff and nodded to him, and the Bailiff left, and then returned with a man that was beaten mercilessly, bruised, and bloodied; you be shocked, thinking that this is what would happen to you. But instead, the Judge looked at you and said: "You are free to go because this man took the punishment for your Crimes." , you'd walk out a free man! And this is just what Christ did for YOU!!!

However, it is a slap in the face to God when we try to EARN our way to Heaven because then we're saying that Christ didn't do enough for us on the cross, and we have to make up the balance of work by doing good works to EARN Heaven, but Christ said just before He died "It is FINISHED" !!! We can't add to it, or subtract from it. It is FINISHED !!! He earned Heaven FOR us! Our greatest work is to put our faith IN Christ, and what He did FOR us! Our salvation is received and maintained by our faith in Christ, PERIOD !

Good works are necessary, yes, but they are not what saves us, or what keeps us. They come from a heart that is thankful, not a heart that is trying to EARN something you've already received. The difference is in the heart. Keep your good works
separated in your heart, from your faith in Christ for your salvation!
Big Al

Grand Rapids, MN

#29 Mar 23, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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What makes you think it isn't? Your antiChrist opinion?
"The continually progressive change to which the meaning of words is subject, the want of a universal language which renders translation necessary, the errors to which translations are again subject, the mistakes of copyists and printers, together with the possibility of willful alteration, are of themselves evidences that the human language, whether in speech or in print, cannot be the vehicle of the Word of God. The Word of God exists in something else." - Thomas Paine
Rand M Sutor

United States

#30 Mar 23, 2013
Another problem with a faulty walk is sin! If a person opens their heart to God only a small amount, yes, they're born-again, but there is still sin within! From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Actions also come from the heart. If you struggled with sin before you were born-again, and you didn't trust God fully with your whole heart when you were born-again, then you are likely still struggling with the same sins.

But guess what? You couldn't beat you sins in your own strength BEFORE you were born-again, and you can't do it NOW!

People who came from broken homes and hard childhoods usually have the hardest time trusting God. If they do get saved, then they struggle with giving God the rest of their heart, but this is where we receive "His strength" over sin! By trusting Him and opening up the remainder of our heart to Him, he replaces our sinfulness with His presence in those areas, and the sin no longer gives us a problem.

The victory comes NOT from trying to beat sin in our own strength, but surrendering to Him when His Spirit moves upon our heart: the sin goes out when He comes in!
Rand M Sutor

United States

#31 Mar 23, 2013
But you must trust Him when His Spirit moves upon you, otherwise you find yourself fighting against the very answer you're looking for! HE CAN BE TRUSTED!!! Why do you think He continues to work with you?

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#32 Mar 23, 2013
Rand M Sutor wrote:
Another problem with a faulty walk is sin! If a person opens their heart to God only a small amount, yes, they're born-again, but there is still sin within! From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks. Actions also come from the heart. If you struggled with sin before you were born-again, and you didn't trust God fully with your whole heart when you were born-again, then you are likely still struggling with the same sins.
But guess what? You couldn't beat you sins in your own strength BEFORE you were born-again, and you can't do it NOW!
People who came from broken homes and hard childhoods usually have the hardest time trusting God. If they do get saved, then they struggle with giving God the rest of their heart, but this is where we receive "His strength" over sin! By trusting Him and opening up the remainder of our heart to Him, he replaces our sinfulness with His presence in those areas, and the sin no longer gives us a problem.
The victory comes NOT from trying to beat sin in our own strength, but surrendering to Him when His Spirit moves upon our heart: the sin goes out when He comes in!
actually I think they have an easier time believing in god....they don't have alot to look forward to and are less educated. The more educated you are, the less religious people tend to be. Studies have shown that those than don't believe in god tend to have a higher IQ.
Rand M Sutor

United States

#33 Mar 23, 2013
For the sake of humor; When considering your picture, how many people would think you have a high IQ?

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#34 Mar 23, 2013
Rand M Sutor wrote:
For the sake of humor; When considering your picture, how many people would think you have a high IQ?
no idea....

why would it matter what people's superficial interpretation of a picture is?
OKAY

Houston, TX

#35 Mar 23, 2013
Rand M Sutor wrote:
For the sake of humor; When considering your picture, how many people would think you have a high IQ?
HIGH Friggin' FIVE!!! probably why no one takes her seriously.
Rand M Sutor

United States

#36 Mar 23, 2013
cvor wrote:
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no idea....
why would it matter what people's superficial interpretation of a picture is?
Okay, I apologize for the remark!

Yes, a lot of people who are well educated have a problem with Christ because they're use to providing quite well for themselves. They have a hard time accepting a free Gospel.

They're so busy trying to earn their way to Heaven that they miss it by miles because it hurt their pride to accept something for free! It's already paid for!
one way

Christiana, PA

#38 Mar 23, 2013
I do not think, but instead I KNOW that it is God's words be the proof and evidence. "You will know The Truth, and The Truth will set you free."
Cisco Kid

Sonora, CA

#39 Mar 23, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Can you please show me one or more words that where actually written by god?
Don't be a crank.

God wrote that stuff so long ago the ink has worn away.
Not that it's God's fault, man just didn't have indelible ink back then.

But the copies are worthwhile.
Cisco Kid

Sonora, CA

#40 Mar 23, 2013
one way wrote:
I do not think, but instead I KNOW that it is God's words be the proof and evidence. "You will know The Truth, and The Truth will set you free."
That's the thing about God's family.
If you know, then you don't need somebody to show you proof.

If you don't wanna know, then no proof will do you.
Uncircumcised Philistine

Decatur, GA

#41 Mar 23, 2013
The bible is the word of God. TI might not be the 100% inerrant word, but enough evidence is there to prove that its atleast 95%+ accurate from what were in the originals.

dollarsbill

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#42 Mar 24, 2013
cvor wrote:
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Your foundation is flawed because you assert Satan exists and provide no evidence for it and assume without valid demonstration that someone would reject it.
You have quite a few grandiose baseless assertions in your short post.
You are "perishing".

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 (NKJV)
3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

dollarsbill

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#43 Mar 24, 2013
Rand M Sutor wrote:
When Jesus died on that cross, God the Father forgave the sins of the whole world.
Wrong!

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