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Homeschoolers: Future Directors of Christian Movies in Hollywood?

There are 37 comments on the www.christianpost.com story from Sep 19, 2007, titled Homeschoolers: Future Directors of Christian Movies in Hollywood? . In it, www.christianpost.com reports that:

The Christian community has not done a good job of raising "superbly qualified" Christian filmmakers to direct big-budget movies, according to George Escobar, the executive director of AOL Video.

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moe

Omaha, NE

#1 Sep 20, 2007
I've met a lot of home schoolers in my life here in rural America, and they have been, with very very few exceptions, narrow minded, bigoted, self-righteous and barely literate. Their children are in even worse shape. The fact is that most parents, even the best of us, can only offer their limited world view. Believe it or not, much more is required to survive and succeed. I don't care if you're an old hippie trying to impart your vision of the world or a Bible thumping right wing Christian trying to train your kids in your version of Gods word- you are cheating your kids and depriving them of a normal childhood.

Also, homeschoolers tend to be boring and humorless, as are their kids. Better off working at Mc Donalds or in the militery.

“rain like grace”

Since: Aug 07

Olympia

#2 Sep 20, 2007
I have always contended that if one is homeschooling to "protect" thier children, then the education will be narrow. Each State has laws which govern a home school opportunity. Some states are more rigorous than others with regard to moitering and allowing this type of education.
It is the responsibility of communities to ensure the statistics bear good results. Each State shall be responsible. IN Washington the home schooled students actually fair beeter in testing and education.

Both of my children have flourished well in the self directed studies, one grown seeking a second degree while working in his profession. He graduated three years early and graduated college with a 3.98 grade average. Our daughter graduate one year early and is in coursework for her college now. Both are exceptional outgouing people, holding down jobs and very extroverted.

I will agree that some home schoolers are not afforded a well rounded education, but in the end the STATE is not the guardian of the child. If people want to have a say in how children are raised they might think to have children. IN the end, everyone has a vote in the booth and they can vote for or against laws that promote or denote the homeschools rights.

Most of the homeschooled children in rural Washington are members of private home schooled academies. For our family we did not see the point to participate in this type of study. Most States are reqwuired to have all students meet National and State requirements in testing, so I am a little disturbed if there are families not following the laws. It is responsibility to assume the home school journey. It means the parents MUST be dedicated to well rounded studies.

National Stastics do not bear out your experiences with regard to literacy among home schooled children. As for, boring?, well that's a matter of taste perhaps.

“rain like grace”

Since: Aug 07

Olympia

#3 Sep 20, 2007
Excuse my typing as in spelling errors, thankfully I didn't teach my children that skill.......they discovered they needed to be good at typing to survive the rigors of State requirements. Thanks. I hope Colorado does better monitering its students in the future.

“LOVE, FEAR , RESPECT THE LORD!”

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#4 Sep 20, 2007
I am very much in favor of home schooling. The public school system is a travesty. They teach psyco babble and Darwinian evolution. Our kids are not being taught the basics.The Statistics show that Home schooled kids are far better educated than public school children.

I believe that the state needs to get out of family business. Our children belong to us and not the state. It is the decision of the parents alone how they educate their children. If the parents decide not to educate their children that is their business. We dont live in a democracy and their is no real freedom of religon or speech. Their is more freedom in Russia than America nowdays.

I dont think it is a good idea for Christians to allow their children to participate in so called Christian movies. Hollywood is given over to violence and immorality. This industry should not be supported. Most christian movies mock and blaspheme the Lord nowdays. Quite a few movies show prophets like Moses cussing at God. This is sacreligous.
moe

Omaha, NE

#5 Sep 20, 2007
Melton wrote:
I am very much in favor of home schooling. The public school system is a travesty. They teach psyco babble and Darwinian evolution. Our kids are not being taught the basics.The Statistics show that Home schooled kids are far better educated than public school children.
I believe that the state needs to get out of family business. Our children belong to us and not the state. It is the decision of the parents alone how they educate their children. If the parents decide not to educate their children that is their business. We dont live in a democracy and their is no real freedom of religon or speech. Their is more freedom in Russia than America nowdays.
I dont think it is a good idea for Christians to allow their children to participate in so called Christian movies. Hollywood is given over to violence and immorality. This industry should not be supported. Most christian movies mock and blaspheme the Lord nowdays. Quite a few movies show prophets like Moses cussing at God. This is sacreligous.
Thank you for proving my point.

“2nd child, lol.”

Since: Apr 07

Salem, MO

#6 Sep 20, 2007
And what POINT was that to be made Moe? That YOU are the ALMIGHTY/KNOW IT ALL...telling CHRISTIANS how to raise THEIR KIDS??? And in fact, coming into a christian forum, accusing the MAJORITY of homeschooling parents YOU have HAPPENED to meet... to be "narrow minded, bigoted, self-righteous and barely literate,...with your "THEORY of homeschooling idiocy's" INTERNAL DIATRIBE ending with: "Also, homeschoolers tend to be boring and humorless, as are their kids. Better off working at Mc Donalds or in the militery."...
MAY I, A MC DONALD'S BACKGROUND WORKIN', NON-MILITARY STATUS, LITERATE, COMPETENT, HUMOR-FULL, FORMER HOMESCHOOLING PARENT OFFER YOU A BIT OF SPELLING EDUCATION???
you said..."militery"
The proper spelling for that word is MILITARY.

And for your information, as far as I'm concerned, if I want to RAISE children to be BABOONS, why is that a concern of YOURS???? You people without GOD claim that evolution is the GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS...if I wanted my CHILDREN to be EDUCATION-LESS...if I wanted them poo-ing on my carpets, and SWINGING from the chandelier's...WHAT CONCERN is that TO YOU???...especially SEEING how I'm ONLY LIVING UP TO YOUR STANDARDS OF EVOLUTION...(must be the MONKEY left over in me!)
Whew! My bad!
Kim
And by the way, WELCOME TO THE CHRISTIAN FORUM...WHERE SANITY RULES.=)

“2nd child, lol.”

Since: Apr 07

Salem, MO

#7 Sep 20, 2007
And by the way, my MUCH better half is MELTON...my dear hubby...whom I believe to be MORE intelligent than ME.=)

“2nd child, lol.”

Since: Apr 07

Salem, MO

#8 Sep 20, 2007
MOE-
If you are connected to social services, or welfare, please, do KNOW this...my one and only child IS a genius...and SHE DOES NOT SWING FROM A CHANDELIER (it would not hold her, she is 17yrs old )...that FORMER writing was a JOKE, get it? Do you understand HUMOR?...Kim

....and also, Mel would like to know...where is CURLY AND LARRY?=)

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#9 Sep 21, 2007
So much anger, but such little IQ. *sigh*.

“yummy!!”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#10 Sep 21, 2007
Can anyone decide to teach their children at home in the US? And who then decides what they are taught? Is there any guideline to follow?

In the UK if a parent wants to school at home than permission has to be gained and the national curriculum has to be followed.I believe there are checks to make sure that the childs education is not suffering.
Is it the same in the States?

Since: Aug 07

Saint Clair Shores, MI

#11 Sep 21, 2007
Editor note:

Various sites list home-school stats. Each State has it's own laws regarding high school:

http://www.chec.org/Legislative/News/Homescho...
http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2006/homeschool/
http://nces.ed.gov/pubsearch/pubsinfo.asp...
http://www.naturalfamilyhome.com/homeschoolin...

And yes, it was another home-schooler who won the National Spelling bee this year:

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jun/07060102...

Since: Aug 07

Saint Clair Shores, MI

#12 Sep 21, 2007
Just found a very interesting list of Famous Home-Schoolers:

http://www.christianhomeschoolers.com/hs_famo...

“rain like grace”

Since: Aug 07

Olympia

#13 Sep 21, 2007
annab3lla wrote:
Can anyone decide to teach their children at home in the US? And who then decides what they are taught? Is there any guideline to follow?
In the UK if a parent wants to school at home than permission has to be gained and the national curriculum has to be followed.I believe there are checks to make sure that the childs education is not suffering.
Is it the same in the States?
The Supreme COurt RUling reagrding a child's educaton was first challenged in Pennsylvaia with regard to AMish children. The Suprenme court ruled tha as long as a child was self sufficient and not relying on Geovernment assistance, they could be home schooled. There is separation of State and Home school in America, generally...smiles. I have often wondered why kids graduated from public school on governement assistaance are not held to the same standard? SMiles....

In Washington you must be approved to teach your children with a college degree, take a two year course to become a home school teacher, or have a certified teacher act as supervisor and have weekly checks from them. A public school teacher MAY NOT act as supervisor if anything religious is taught in the home environment, so that is why the home school academies sprung up in our State. It provided non degreed parents the ability to have thier children in home school through High School and meeting all State requirements for graduation.
Each district superintendent must sign the paperwork. Testing, school, and medical records, are kept by the parents. You must register each year. IF the paperwork is not filed by the deadline date a school district may have the children removed from the home.

Our school district has curriculum booklets for goals and objectives and although we used the booklets list of goals and objectives, most families do not. In home school it is understood that X number of hours must be put in by law, that your child must pass the National and State testing each year, and if the child falls behind the parent has one year to bring that child to grade level or proceedings to remove the child from your home will begin. Hard on the children who may not be very good in a specific subject. Scary........
The classroom teachers are not held to that same criteria passing children each year who can't read or write, or pass advanced mathematics????.

There has been a large movement in our State to force children back to public school by High School, but it has not passed legislation here, despite the liberal political agendas to join the UN worldwide educational system agenda.
Most people that home school are double paying taxes, since the districts are NOT required, to help by providing text books and such. Keep in mind some districts do provide these materials...again, State by State, and district by district.

Hope that helps, Trinity

“2nd child, lol.”

Since: Apr 07

Salem, MO

#14 Sep 21, 2007
-Skeptic- wrote:
So much anger, but such little IQ.*sigh*.
*sigh* so MUCH EVIDENCE FOR GOD, yet STILL a Skeptic!=)

“2nd child, lol.”

Since: Apr 07

Salem, MO

#15 Sep 21, 2007
evanoff wrote:
Editor note:
Various sites list home-school stats. Each State has it's own laws regarding high school:
http://www.chec.org/Legislative/News/Homescho...
http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2006/homeschool/
http://nces.ed.gov/pubsearch/pubsinfo.asp...
http://www.naturalfamilyhome.com/homeschoolin...
And yes, it was another home-schooler who won the National Spelling bee this year:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jun/07060102...
Thank you VERY much for your thoughtful/helpful information.
My name is Kim, nice to meet you!

“rain like grace”

Since: Aug 07

Olympia

#16 Sep 21, 2007
"What" a parent teaches a child is just as important as "How" the parent teaches the child.

“2nd child, lol.”

Since: Apr 07

Salem, MO

#17 Sep 21, 2007
333Trinity7 wrote:
"What" a parent teaches a child is just as important as "How" the parent teaches the child.
Very true Evonne!

“2nd child, lol.”

Since: Apr 07

Salem, MO

#18 Sep 21, 2007
Dear Moe,
Plz forgive my little "tirade". I'm called to "turn the other cheek", but I'm not called to allow VERBAL ABUSE to be foisted upon someone such as my own DAUGHTER, or those LIKE her. And she is remarkably BRILLIANT, insofar as intelligence/understanding is concerned. Some intelligence becomes MORE apparent with age as well. Even Einstein was considered a DUNCE by his teachers. We must be CAREFUL who we LABEL as "stupid", "narrow minded, or "barely literate"...because it is PRECISELY those types which tend to have intelligence stored in areas UN-SEEN or UN-KNOWN to outside observers.
People with brain disorders such as dyslexia, or schizophrenia, or manic depression...as well as autism, and tourette syndrome...it is these types of people who are SENSITIVE and AWARE of things that others ARE NOT AWARE of...and these "apparent" DISABILITIES work their BRAINS in ways that others cannot FATHOM...thereby INCREASING their intellect.(VERY likened unto a bodybuilder, building up MUSCLES, yet it is THE BRAIN being WORKED OUT). Some of our most GIFTED SCIENTISTS/artists have struggled with varying degrees of "APPARENT" idiocy.
God bless you Moe! Kim

“rain like grace”

Since: Aug 07

Olympia

#19 Sep 21, 2007
We need to use the rights we have.
We cannot live in fear that what is permissable in man's world today, may be taken from us tomorrow. We are told this is going to happen.

Brillance is not measured in intelligence, but in what fruits a person's life demonstrates.
It seems less important that a child has understanding that they are people whose actions and decisions lay affect upon others. That they seek to heal and not harm themselves or others. The child can have all knowledge, but if they are reactive, escaping, rough, violent, inconsiderate, vile, and mean...well......the knowledge is useless. For all knowledge does not make an understanding person.

Education is a learning of facts and spewing them out for a grade. So basically we're teaching our children how to vomit well. With information and knowledge must come some learning with regard to functionality in life. If I think I will be there every step of my child's life, then I am bound for disappointment. What I believe, or the way I believe it and translate it for me, is not relevant to my child.

If someone evaluates the taste of a peach, but hates peaches, their opinion is not likely to be sought by judges at a peach exhibit.

I was less concerned as a home schooled parent as to grades and information as I was to seeing how my students 'children' taught me. They brought the subjects forward and they bevcame my teachers.
This way I was assurred of having no teacher above the student.......a belief for me that the Master must wash the feet.........

Many home schooled are defensive because of the strict scrutiny which home school brings to the child and the family. But, I think perhaps, any parent does not want their child and family held to government scrutiny. I am not convinved this is a home school dilema altogether.

I do not support the worldwide education system proposed by the United Nation, and I am concerned that Americans will not use the rights we have and then complain when they are gone.

“rain like grace”

Since: Aug 07

Olympia

#20 Sep 21, 2007
In my above post it should read: It seems important that a child..........the less does not belong. THis is why I have little if anything to teach. Smiles.....

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