100% PROOF OF BIBLE FROGERY-----"DARIC" in the time of DAVID?????

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WHEN A "CHRISTIAN" ATTACKS AND IS NOT DEFENDING HIMSELF IS HE OBEYING HIS BIBLE?, IS HE OBEYING JESUS CHRIST WHO TOLD US TO TREAT OTHERS AS WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO TREAT US?:

EZEKIEL 18:21 (OLD TESTAMENT)
“But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. 22 None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. 23 DO I TAKE ANY PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF THE WICKED? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?"
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OR DO YOU OBEY THE QURAN:

Which wants believers to kill unbelievers before they find God, and so make Hell and God's list of enemies bigger, faster?
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Why Christians believe that god is the child of other god.?

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jesus is wrote:
WHEN A "CHRISTIAN" ATTACKS AND IS NOT DEFENDING HIMSELF IS HE OBEYING HIS BIBLE?, IS HE OBEYING JESUS CHRIST WHO TOLD US TO TREAT OTHERS AS WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO TREAT US?:
EZEKIEL 18:21 (OLD TESTAMENT)
“But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. 22 None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. 23 DO I TAKE ANY PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF THE WICKED? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?"
Why do you think that ranting away in upper case gets your ideas, such as they are, across any better. All it does is show you to be the bible thumping fundie that you are!
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Biblos wrote:
Why Christians believe that god is the child of other god.?
Christians believe that God,(who cant be seen with living human eyes), visited humans within a created human body (that He called His son), so that we could see and relate to Him.
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Shabbir Ahmed wrote:
Peace be unto you!
1. In the first chapter of genesis says that the God created the heaven and the earth in six days and it talks about morning and evening indicating that a period of 24 hours a day. Today science tells us that the earth and the heaven can not be created in the period of six days, which is unscientific.
GENESIS 1:1-2:
The Beginning
'1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.'

God had already created the universe and earth before He even thought about days. How do you know how many hours made up Gods "day"? He hadn't even created the sun yet so how could His "days" be measured the same way as we measure them?

GENESIS 1: 3,4,5:
3 'And God said,“Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.'

The first day...the first God-day,(not measured in hours and not measure using the sun, which didn't exist).
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Shabbir Ahmed wrote:
<quoted text>Peace be unto you!
2. Genesis 1 verse 3-5 says that light was created on the first day.
Genesis 1 verse 14-19 says that the cause of light of sun and stars etc. was created on fourth day.
How come the cause of light be created on 4rth day later than the light which came to exists on the first day? Unscientific.
LIGHT CAN EXIST WITHOUT THE SUN! How do you see where you're going when the sun sets?
Shabbir Ahmed wrote:
<quoted text>3. Genesis 1 verse 9-13 earth was created on the third day.
Earth created on 3rd day light created on 1st day. How can u have day and night without earth? Because it depends upon the rotation of the earth. Without earth how can u have day and night? Unscientific.
OH LOVEY, YOU NEED HELP!
GENESIS 1:1
'1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.' In the Begining, in the Begining!
IN GENESIS 1:9-13 GOD FORMED DRY LAND OUT OF HIS WATERY EARTH, THEN CREATED VEGETATION:
'9 And God said,“Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
11 Then God said,“Let the land produce vegetation:'
Shabbir Ahmed wrote:
<quoted text>4. Genesis 1 verse 9-13 earth was created on the third day.
Genesis 1 verse 14-19 the sun and the moon was created on the fourth day.
Today science tells us that the earth can not come into existance before the sun. Unscientific.
Genesis 1:1 says that earth was created "in the begining", before days came into the picture.
Light and dark are seperate things to the sun. The creator can make light come out of a brick!
And why does science say that life accidently appeared on earth?
Are there zillions of living cells in the sun just waiting to evolve?
Shabbir Ahmed wrote:
<quoted text>5. Genesis 1 verse 11-13 vegetation created on the third day.
Genesis 1 verse 14-19 the sun and the moon was created on the fourth day.
How can vegetation come into existance without sunlight and how can they servive without sunlight? Unscientific.
We are contemplating God here and you are asking how He can create and nourish life without help?
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<quoted text>6. Genesis 1 verse 16 God created two lights the sun greater light rule the day and the moon lesser light to rule the night.
Verse 17 says the sun and the moon have their own lights. We know that the light of the moon is reflected light. Unscientific.
Can any christian answer these?
Does Genesis 1:16 say the lesser light CREATES its own light or 'GOVERNS' it?
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You can't believe the latest.

This retard is trying to pass off a plastic fishing lure, complete with hook, as fossil evidence against Evolution.

You couldn't make it up. But then you don't have to, because they do all the time.
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Why do you think that ranting away in upper case gets your ideas, such as they are, across any better. All it does is show you to be the bible thumping fundie that you are!

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abcd wrote:
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN OF MYTHMAKER PAUL'S PAGANIC CHRISTIANITY i have come with a serious alligation of the bible ,which proving that bible is written 100s of year later than the alleged written time.
Here , in 1 Chronicles 29:7 bible described KING DAVID ordered 2 construct the tample with 10000 DARICS.
But point to be noted here DARIC WAS ORIGINATED AROUND 400 years AFTER KING DAVID TIME.
The coin which originated 400 years after david time how david used that coin 2 construct the tample !!!!!
You show you are 100% making things up....1 Chronicles does not use darics...it uses the word 'TALENTS" as measurement for cost:

1 Chronicles 29:7
7And gave for the service of the house of God of gold five thousand talents and ten thousand drams, and of silver ten thousand talents, and of brass eighteen thousand talents, and one hundred thousand talents of iron.

or in the NIV:

1 Chronicles 29:7 (New International Version)

7 They gave toward the work on the temple of God five thousand talents[a] and ten thousand darics[b] of gold, ten thousand talents[c] of silver, eighteen thousand talents[d] of bronze and a hundred thousand talents[e] of iron.

Footnotes:

1. 1 Chronicles 29:7 That is, about 190 tons or about 170 metric tons
2. 1 Chronicles 29:7 That is, about 185 pounds or about 84 kilograms
3. 1 Chronicles 29:7 That is, about 380 tons or about 340 metric tons
4. 1 Chronicles 29:7 That is, about 675 tons or about 610 metric tons
5. 1 Chronicles 29:7 That is, about 3,800 tons or about 3,400 metric tons

If we go to the original Hebrew: The word talent is:

Transliteration:
kikkar {kik-kawr'}
Word Origin:
from 3769
Part of Speech:
noun feminine
Usage in the KJV:
talent 48, plain 12, loaf 4, piece 2, country 1, morsel 1

Total: 68
Definition:

1. round
1. a round district (environs of the Jordan valley)
2. a round loaf (of bread)
3. a round weight, talent (of gold, silver, bronze, iron)

Where did you dig up your misinformation?

I know ..from your bible of lies...the INTERNET...you should be more careful in what you believe on the INTERNET.

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Also 1 Chronicles was written betwen 450 and 400 B.C. which is during the Babylonian exile....it was written for the remnant of Judah returning from BABYLON.....which explains the word used "Dram" which is a measurement in drachma, dram, daric - unit of weight and value (of gold, money) equal to 128 grains or 4.32 grams.

7 And gave for the service of the house of God of gold five thousand talents and ten thousand drams, and of silver ten thousand talents, and of brass eighteen thousand talents, and one hundred thousand talents of iron.

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Nov 13, 2010
 
abcd wrote:
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN OF MYTHMAKER PAUL'S PAGANIC CHRISTIANITY i have come with a serious alligation of the bible ,which proving that bible is written 100s of year later than the alleged written time.
Here , in 1 Chronicles 29:7 bible described KING DAVID ordered 2 construct the tample with 10000 DARICS.
But point to be noted here DARIC WAS ORIGINATED AROUND 400 years AFTER KING DAVID TIME.
The coin which originated 400 years after david time how david used that coin 2 construct the tample !!!!!
Destails ABOUT COIN DARIC IS AS BELOW....
Chronicles was written after King David lived, which is no secret. The writer could have simply been communicating the amount given to David for the temple using a monitary reference (in this case, the Daric, which is a Persian coin) in order to convey to the reader how much gold was actually given to David for building a temple. So the writer used "prolepsis", which is to assign something from a later time period (such as the Daric) to an earlier time in order to communicate in terms that his readers will understand.

Another example of prolepsis is found in Genesis 13:3, which states that Abraham “went on his journey from the South as far as Bethel.” The problem is that Bethel did not exist until years later when Jacob gave it that name (Genesis 28:19). So, is this an accidental error or an example of prolepsis?

The bottom line is that your claim of proof of forgery is merely wishful thinking.
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jesus is wrote:
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LIGHT CAN EXIST WITHOUT THE SUN! How do you see where you're going when the sun sets?
Your disabled brain is shining through.
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Jesus told his cult members that they would see the end of the world within their lifetime. He lied. After being offered it a second time, Jesus readily gulped down what he knew was poison while hanging on the cross he knew he would be hung on. Jesus passed hundreds of crucified people on his was into the city. He witnessed thousands of crucifixtions in his lifetime. Rational folks call it suicide.

The Bible is a lie. The story of Jesus and the harlot, "..let him that is without sin...blah,blash,blah" was added to the infalible word of God in the middle ages. The GOP bought Christianity years ago. Your entire belief system is an absolute lie. That's all fine and dandy. To each his own. Just keep it out of our politics and away from the children.
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Nov 19, 2010
 
Little Quiggy wrote:
Jesus told his cult members that they would see the end of the world within their lifetime. He lied. After being offered it a second time, Jesus readily gulped down what he knew was poison while hanging on the cross he knew he would be hung on. Jesus passed hundreds of crucified people on his was into the city. He witnessed thousands of crucifixtions in his lifetime. Rational folks call it suicide.
The Bible is a lie. The story of Jesus and the harlot, "..let him that is without sin...blah,blash,blah" was added to the infalible word of God in the middle ages. The GOP bought Christianity years ago. Your entire belief system is an absolute lie. That's all fine and dandy. To each his own. Just keep it out of our politics and away from the children.
I've explained this issue so many times it's not funny. The problem is that ignoramuses like you are clueless. If you wanted to research this issue, you could. However, obviously you haven't and won't because you're not interested, since you whole purpose is to attack Jesus. lol!
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Xcaliber wrote:
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I've explained this issue so many times it's not funny. The problem is that ignoramuses like you are clueless. If you wanted to research this issue, you could. However, obviously you haven't and won't because you're not interested, since you whole purpose is to attack Jesus. lol!
Nothing to research. Most rational people know Jesus was a liar and a suicidal emo kid. Just like to watch you jump through hoops on command. Good little chimp boy. Now go ahead and explain how the story about Jesus and the harlot doesn't show up in the self described unchanging word of God until the middle ages. Squirm little chimp boy, squirm.
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Feb 12, 2013
 
I think this question is silly. Chronicles was written by Ezra and Nehemiah. They were living in the Persian Empire and of course would have used Daric to describe the amount of gold. If you don't trust their writing it years later and don't want to believe in prophetic insight, I will tell you this: Whenever the Bible mentions a kings it generally tells you something like "and is not all the work that he did in blah blah... written in the book of Chronicles to the Kings of Judah..."
So let me ask you logically, If these writings are fabricated, why would they mention books of the kings records. These books today we don't have but from the way the Bible puts it is seems like it was just saying "for more info, go to the records..." It is like I would tell you today a story and say for more details read such and such book.
Ezra could have used all the record books of the Kings to write his Chronicles. If he did a conversion from Davids units to Darics, what is the big deal. All the books I read about the ancients convert their units to meters and the like.
No one ever ever ever claimed that Chronicles was written in Davids time. Jewish tradition in the Talmud says clearly that Jeremiah wrote Kings, after the last king was defeated by Babylon. It is he who constantly references events about Kings lives that he says to check the record books that he obviously had before him. Even without Prophecy he could have written this history. Lets not forget that the "father" of history, Herodotus also wrote hundreds of years after the fact, yet much of our account of history comes from him. How is he better the Jeremiah, he never even saw the places he wrote about. Jeremiah at least seems to have had these records.
Now if you don't want to believe in Jeremiah that is insane because they found clay seals bearing the name of the student Baruch the son of Neriah he mentions in his book as well as other officials of his time. Lets not even mention that Hezikiah, Yehu, Omri and a whole bunch of other kings are mentioned in both Egypt and Assyrian records.

Lets face it: Archeologist find artifacts and then try and pin it into their knowledge of history. Where does most of that knowledge come from? Well it comes from ancient liars like Herodotus or Manetho who all tried to glorify their own kingdoms. Mind you, even artifacts they find are faulty. Assyrian records never ever mention a defeat! Neither do Egyptian ones. The only ancient document, to my knowledge that mentions a defeat of ones own army is... the Bible! Over and over again it criticizes and faults, even the greatest heroes like David. I have seen much less criticism of Abraham Lincoln in modern books then the Bible heaps upon David, even when our age has no issue with faulting leaders.

Things like Jericho, which was burned by fire as the BIble says, are not contradictions at all. The reason is we really have very little clue about the actual dating of Egyptian records. Anyone who believes otherwise should go and study how science came up with the dates, or check out the myriad different theories, some popular and others not, regarding Egyptian chronology.
This is all not to even mention that the whole dating of Jericho was based on the pottery shards found in a small sliver of the dig. That is a ridiculously shaky "Proof" that it took place before Joshua. How does science even know when Joshua came to Israel?
Our history of the Ancients is a house of cards, built one layer at a time on suppositions, ancients who had reason to lie, and fragments found in the ground that are subject to interpretation. If one card falls so do there others. Hundreds of years can be added or subtracted to the past with one single discovery. Look what the dead sea scrolls did to dating the Bible.
I say patients is called for, so is humility. If you chuck out some rotten foundations of our historical accounts then we may have a chance of interpreting our archaeologic finds more accurately.
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Feb 12, 2013
 
This argument is semantical.

A small amount of research into language and the usage of words over time will prove it wrong.

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