100% PROOF OF BIBLE FROGERY-----"DARIC" in the time of DAVID?????

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LADIES AND GENTLEMAN OF MYTHMAKER PAUL'S PAGANIC CHRISTIANITY i have come with a serious alligation of the bible ,which proving that bible is written 100s of year later than the alleged written time.

Here , in 1 Chronicles 29:7 bible described KING DAVID ordered 2 construct the tample with 10000 DARICS.

But point to be noted here DARIC WAS ORIGINATED AROUND 400 years AFTER KING DAVID TIME.
The coin which originated 400 years after david time how david used that coin 2 construct the tample !!!!!

Destails ABOUT COIN DARIC IS AS BELOW.
Since we are dealing with coins, it is worthwhile saying something about the mention of "daric" in the time of David in 1 Chronicles 29:7. In 1 Chronicles 29, David was asking an assembly of people to donate for the construction of the Temple. The people gave generously "toward the work on the temple of God five thousand talents and ten thousand darics of gold, ten thousand talents of silver, eighteen thousand talents of bronze and a hundred thousand talents of iron."
According to the chronology of the Old Testament, David's reign was between c. 1011 and c. 971 BCE.[91] Compared to this time period, when was daric introduced? Concerning the origins of daric, The Seaby Coin Encyclopaedia says:

Daric. A gold coin of the ancient Persian Empire, first struck under (and named after) Darius the Great, 521 - 486 B.C. It weighed 8.4 grammes, contained 3% silver alloy, and became the most widely diffused gold coin of the ancient world, accepted throughout the Mediterranean and Black Sea areas and east as far as India.[92]

In other words, the Persian gold coin daric appeared some 400 years after the reign of David. Hence the use of daric during the time of David is an anachronism. Over 100 years ago The Jewish Encyclopedia had already catalogued several errors in the Hebrew Bible (i.e., Protestant Old Testament) arising from their study of Jewish coinage.

No credence whatever can therefore be placed in late Jewish stories mentioning coins of Abraham, Joshua, or David, or even Mordecai (Ber. R. xxxix. ; B. K. 97a). Such passages in Scripture as seem to point to the use of coined money during that period are either interpolated or late.====== A notable instance of anachronism occurs in I Chron. xxix. 7, where among the offerings of the chiefs of Israel in the time of King David are mentioned 10,000 gold "adarkonim" or darics, coins which were not struck before the time of King Darius I=======, i.e., more than 400 years after David.[93]

This notable anachronism has not gone unnoticed by contemporary Judeo-Christian scholars either and is admitted in many Bible dictionaries and commentaries. Let us survey some of them.
Concerning the use of daric in the time of David in 1 Chronicles 29:7, the HarperCollins Bible Dictionary says:

Daric... a gold coin, probably introduced by Darius I... It is used of Temple building contributions in Ezra 8:27 and ===anachronistically in 1 Chron. 29:7.[94]====
Similarly, H. W. Perkin writing in The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia mentions the anachronistic terms for money mentioned in the Old Testament. He says:
=====Anachronistic Terms for Money:==== Since coins apparently were not known in Palestine before the Exile, biblical references to money in the preexilic period are to be the weight in metal. Occasionally an author writing about an earlier event used a monetary term familiar to his readers rather than the word for the money of the earlier period.====This procedure may explain the term "daric" in 1 Ch. 29:7.[95]=====
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Similar conclusions concerning the use of daric during the time of David were also reached by The Eerdmans Bible Dictionary.

Daric [dăr'ĭk]. A Persian gold coin weighing about 8.4 g.(.3 oz.), bearing the image of Darius I Hystaspes (ca. 500 B.C.) and therefore assumed to have been coined by that ruler; it is possible that the name derived from Akk. darag mana (one-sixtieth of a mina). In the Old Testament the term (Heb.'adarkôn) occurs at Ezra 8:27 and at====== 1 Chr. 29:7 (during David's days, likely an anachronism).[96]========

Such observations are also made in various Bible commentaries. While discussing 1 Chronicles 29:7, The Wycliffe Bible Commentary says:

The chronicler used the daric to evaluate this offering in 970 B.C.,===== even though coinage was actually unknown to David.[97]=======

New Bible Commentary 21st Century Edition also mentions this anachronism by saying:

It is made real for the Chronicler's first readers by the use of the term daric (7),===== a coin known in their day but not in David's.[98]====

The explanation of this glaring anachronism is usually done by using the concept of prolepsis, i.e., the assignment of an event or a name, to a time that precedes it. Prolepsis is used for the sake of convenience in order that the reader or audience can be communicated in a better way. The use of daric in 1 Chronicles 29:7 is explained by The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia by saying that the Chronicler used it as an "equivalent" to explain the money involved.

Daric... Since coinage had not been invented in David's time, the reference in 1 Ch. 29:7 is to an equivalent in use at the time the Chronicler was compiling his work.[99]

A similar explanation is also made in The Expositor's Bible Commentary which says:

The "daric" was a Persian gold coin, first issued by Darius I in the century before Ezra, though in David's day this figure - equivalent to about two and one-half talents - would have represented the corresponding weight in small pieces of the precious metal.[100]

As it was mentioned earlier, the most likely reason for the existence of daric during the time of David was the late compilation of 1 Chronicles. The compilation might have dated well after the introduction of daric by Darius I. This has lead Dillard and Longman III to the opinion that 1 Chronicles could not have been written before the 5th century BCE. Acknowledging the anachronism, they say:

In 1 Chronicle 29:7 part of the people's giving for the construction of the temple is reported in darics. The daric is a Persian coin named after Darius; it was not minted before 515 B.C., and sufficient time must be allowed for it to gain wide circulation as a monetary standard also in Judah. These two passages suggest that the Chronicler could not have written before the mid-fifth century. It is more difficult to establish the latest date by which he would have written, though it is improbable that he wrote later than the beginning of the fourth century.[101]
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Now my question to this pagan cults is that

HOW COME DAVID USE A COIN WHICH ORIGINATED 400 YEARS AFTER HIM.

It clearly describes 1 Chronicles 29:7 means the whole cronicle and many part of the bible is a complite frogery and written or try be written based on the existing story of david n so on .

So in no way bible is the word of god n it is just like the verse jeremiah 8:8

" 'How can you say, "We are wise,
for we have the law of the LORD,"
when actually the lying pen of the scribes
has handled it falsely?"

I do not find any best example than this DARIC coin that bible is a forgary and altered by the later writers and no way the word of god.

If u do not accept my point then give me a explanation how david as described in the chronicle used DARIC as a coin 2 build the tample which actually originated 400 years after him.

lastly i like 2 finish with the following verse

“And woe to those who write the book with their own hands and then say:“This is from Allah.” To traffic with it for a miserable price! So woe to them forwhat their hands write, and woe to them for what they earn thereby!”

(Al-Qur’an Surah Al-Baqarah Chp. 2, verse 79)

ALLAH knows BEST!
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Bible Frogery? Whats that?? LOL
Oh I know it was one of the Egyptian plagues.

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Bible Frogery? Whats that?? LOL
Oh I know it was one of the Egyptian plagues.
LOL.....Oh Boy, here we go!....<Smile>
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be a man an give a clear cut answer.

in 1 1 Chronicles 29:7 it clearly states that david used a coin DARICS 2 build the tample.

But DARICS is originated in parsia 400-500 years after david time.

so my question is how come king david used a coin which is originated 400-500 years after his time.

does it not proof that bible is corruspted or altered by later scribes.

If u dnt agree with it than give explanation how david use a coin which originated 400 years after him???.
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Did Miss Piggy have anything to do with this????

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Wayne wrote:
Did Miss Piggy have anything to do with this????
Hey, why bring your mother into this?
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Did Miss Piggy have anything to do with this????
Kermit denies all knowledge of this.

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Did Miss Piggy have anything to do with this????
Yes, It was Miss Piggy and Kermit. gasp! Kermit being a gentleman took the rap.
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i did not get any answer or explanation yet how this DARIC came in 2 1 cronicle 29:7 and associated with david despite the fact that it is originated 400 years after david.
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Good find.
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i did not get any answer or explanation yet how this DARIC came in 2 1 cronicle 29:7 and associated with david despite the fact that it is originated 400 years after david.
here, croak on this.
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/511
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Yes, It was Miss Piggy and Kermit. gasp! Kermit being a gentleman took the rap.
Shouldn't that be gentlefrog?
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<quoted text>here, croak on this.
http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/511
Great find.
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abcd wrote:
i did not get any answer or explanation yet how this DARIC came in 2 1 cronicle 29:7 and associated with david despite the fact that it is originated 400 years after david.
Prior to The Bible being written it was handed down through oral tradition, that is the stories and history lessons were told and retold from generation to generation until the time they were transcribed to paper. During the translations to allow the audience to understand and get a complete understanding for what they are hearing or reading, modern words would be incorporated into the text. This allows for the use of a coin that did not exist during the time of David, it allows an understanding of what was being spent. This does not deminish the word of God, but a more full understanding. There are many translations of The Bible, and they all are the word of God. I own several translations of The Bible and find that cross referencing the verses is inspiring.
I do not expect to change your mind, I will however pray for you. If you spend less time looking for the negatives and more time looking for the positives, life will be much more fulfulling.
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Glenn R wrote:
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Prior to The Bible being written it was handed down through oral tradition, that is the stories and history lessons were told and retold from generation to generation until the time they were transcribed to paper. During the translations to allow the audience to understand and get a complete understanding for what they are hearing or reading, modern words would be incorporated into the text. This allows for the use of a coin that did not exist during the time of David, it allows an understanding of what was being spent. This does not deminish the word of God, but a more full understanding. There are many translations of The Bible, and they all are the word of God. I own several translations of The Bible and find that cross referencing the verses is inspiring.
I do not expect to change your mind, I will however pray for you. If you spend less time looking for the negatives and more time looking for the positives, life will be much more fulfulling.
Here we got a honest reply that bible was actually a oral tradition which was written long time after the actual event.

Then how come all of u say this is word of god !!!

N if we looked the difference of the event and writing we find it out that the time difference is huge.

In this long 400-600 years gap there is real possibility of alteration and corruption.

can any of u give gurrantee of 100% preservation.

n in a ancient society like those ppl used 2 change story and used 2 invent a another 1 with just a twinkle of eye.

n this DARIC is just a 1.

there was many other historical myth like jericho wall was demolished by joshua n so on.

In reality jericho wall was fallen apart long b4 joshua due 2 earth quake but bible invented a fantasy story regarding joshua's demolishon.

Taking all these in 2 account how u christian say bible is the word f god !!!

n 4 yr kind info jewish tradition says all those was written n saved frm generation 2 generation n even 10 commandent was written by god :P.
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God inspired men to write down His words, and intentions, but I agree that there have been "editors" (check out the beginning of some passages - ie in the year so and so, the word of the Lord came to so and so - an "editor" wrote that).

But this is no way disproves God's words. It proves God expects us to study, investigate and use our heads. He could have stricken people dead for "editing" but chose not to do so. I'm grateful (a BIG message to me - I make mistakes every day).

You'll need to quote your source regarding earthquake before wall of Jericho came down.

And if you need to go over other "myths" as you have called them, we can do that but really, will it change your mind?

Not sure what your point was of last comment? Please restate? Thanks.
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abcd 2 Glenn R wrote:
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Here we got a honest reply that bible was actually a oral tradition which was written long time after the actual event.
Then how come all of u say this is word of god !!!
N if we looked the difference of the event and writing we find it out that the time difference is huge.
In this long 400-600 years gap there is real possibility of alteration and corruption.
can any of u give gurrantee of 100% preservation.
n in a ancient society like those ppl used 2 change story and used 2 invent a another 1 with just a twinkle of eye.
n this DARIC is just a 1.
there was many other historical myth like jericho wall was demolished by joshua n so on.
In reality jericho wall was fallen apart long b4 joshua due 2 earth quake but bible invented a fantasy story regarding joshua's demolishon.
Taking all these in 2 account how u christian say bible is the word f god !!!
n 4 yr kind info jewish tradition says all those was written n saved frm generation 2 generation n even 10 commandent was written by god :P.
While the word has been passed down and edited, there is no guarentee, that is where faith comes in. It is not a blind faith, it is a faith in the living God. These stories have lasted the test of times, and every day new evidence comes out to prove they are real. I understand man can be corrupted, but God can not.
The stories were passes down in his glory, and were to be shared with all, not just believers, but with all. The Bible is the inspired word of God and the Word of God, it is both, because God inspire man to tell and retell the stories and gave the words to them to write them.
The Bible is real, The Bible is inspiring, The Bible is relevant, and it is a living testament to the glory of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ) and God the Holy Spirt.
If you want a 100% guaratee, there are many in The Bible, but the most improtant is John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, and whoever believes in him will not perish, but will have everlasting life." Believe in Jesus = Life everlasting. That is a great promise. There are many other promises God makes to us in The Bible, He calls them Covenants.

You continue to try to disprove a positive, or cause doubt to the truth. Try and try again, but it will not change a thing, God is not falible, but man is. You may try to plant seeds of doubt in peoples minds, but doubt is mearly a weed to be removed with truth. Jesus is the way, the truth and the light.
My prayer for you is that you will see the truth, The devil has planted seeds of doubt on your heart. Open your heart to Jesus Christ, you will find the true and relavent answers there.

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