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IamHim

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#70 Mar 10, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>I'm just pointing out that you used a bad analogy to "argue" with the other poster.
Your argument is off. Plus youre taking his bait. He's never going to answer you - logically, non-emotionally. All you will ever receive is accusation and of course insult. Everyone else is always wrong, and he is always right. That's just his approach. He has ALL the answers, everyone else is in the dark. He's the special one, graciously plying his way among the rest of us cave-dwellers. He thinks and asserts that ALL answers of a spiritual nature should be IN the Bible, if its so important, so sacrosanct, etc...so not to have an answer makes it all a lie.
I think I may have been too hard on you, your analogy, my bad.
If you seek an answer about something that IS contained within any book - you're good. But if its not in a particular book, as the other poster is saying, than the book fails in that instance.
The claim that the entirety of the book fails is of course false. In seeking info as to where Xtianity gets its foundational theology-doctrine, the Bible is a perfect source. But if one is being honest, its not the ONLY source. Xtianity has and continues to borrow from other philosophies in order to "fluff-up" the whole of Xtian theology-doctrine. To say the whole of Xtianity relies solely on the Bible is to be dishonest. Thats the place where Fundies live.
The issue re; the Bible is that it doesn't address ALL of human experiences/conditions - least of all now nearly 2K years later. So to compare it to a text book that is by nature open to additional information, and update - whereas the Bible is not granted such liberty as its locked-down forever...is the problem.
Like fiction. What can we glean from Moby Dick about its characters other than whats in the book? Not too much. We can form conjectures, etc, based on what we know about that culture, those types of men, etc - but we cant say definitive things about them or how they would act outside the story.
The other issue, is that the Bible doesnt address various questions that may/may not be important for many Believers. Such as the ones brought up by the other poster in question. What does the Bible say "people" are doing in heaven? Besides simply being there? Nothing. So the answer cant be found in the Bible. But that's not what the Bible was set up to do. Unlike a text-book, or Rx manual.
To clear things up, I dont think the Bible is a myth, only that parts of its story-telling devices rely on ancient myths, etc to flesh out and form its stories. The Bible is very real, as are some of the characters and places contained within...they just don't prove the magical, supernatural claims. That's my position on the Bible and all alleged holy writings.
Apologies if the post is jumbled...trying to do this in a moving car...on a touchscreen keyboard.
I stand by my analogy. His point was that since the bible did not have those facts it was ALL false. Well the same could be said about any other book that doesnt have ALL the facts that can pertain to the subject. Obviously we both see that this type of thinking is ridiculous. The things that he was looking for is not even necessary. Why do we have to know what composes the soul? Or what we are going to do in heaven? We're on earth lol. When we get there (if we do) then we'll figure that out. The bible (Im not christian so Im referring to the Old testament) helps us get thru this life. But you're right I shouldnt even take his bait. He never answers questions or comments but always demands that someone answers his. Then again, thats the reason why I kept copying and pasting the same argument.

Let me ask you a question since I always assumed you were atheist. Are you? Or are you agnostic?

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#71 Mar 12, 2013
IamHim wrote:
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You:
Me:
You:
ME:
You:
You can answer this right "STar Reborn"?
Are you retarded?

Go ahead, just TRY to meet my challenge.

Your failure to find anything in the book of lies/bible to fully describe/answer any of the spiritual matters that are part of your mythology, will prove it. That's the whole point you idiot.

Now quit playing your infantile games and come back with those answers/descriptions.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#72 Mar 12, 2013
IamHim wrote:
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Its a perfect analogy.
Star Reborn/Seen the other side said that since the bible does not include those points he made that its false. How is it any different from a pharmacy book that does not include one fact or another? Would this book be lies since it does not include ALL facts? To put it simply if the pharmacy book did not have material that explains what to do with a sprained knee, how would that mean that its ALL lies? Punisher you're smarter than this. But since you believe the bible to be myth you jump on my "faulty" point but ignore his. Why? Because his point is MORE faulty than mine
And the funny thing about this is that Star Reborn /Seentheotherside has been "talking to a god" since he was young and has these answers I suppose. The problem is we would have to take HIS word for it lol
Yes, your book of lies IS false/lies if it DOES NOT include those spiritual matters.

Now the CLAIM is that the book of lies/bible is:

"God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in spiritualness."

Which is a >>>FALSE<<< claim, A LIE, if it teaches NOTHING on the soul, the real God's SPIRITUAL nature, the judgment process, Heaven/the "after life", or one's place in all of it. For they are the basis of what your Christians beliefs are suppose to be about.

So my challenge is completely valid in making YOU CHRISTIANS find proof to back up your CLAIM. If you cannot, then I am >>>RIGHT<<< and you are >>>WRONG<<<!

Now get cracking and go get those answers/descriptions. Your book of lies and entire mythology is in the spotlight here.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#73 Mar 12, 2013
cvor wrote:
The bible is the claim not the evidence. Anyone care to prove the claim?
The claim is that the book of lies/bible has ALL the spiritual answers.

Yet in all the years I've been offering these Christians a chance to prove it with my challenge, none have been able to provide any valid evidence. Because there is none.

So I doubt you will any to answer your post with any evidence, but avoid it like the plague.

“It is well with my soul”

Since: Feb 10

Whereabouts in Jersey

#74 Mar 12, 2013
leomauv wrote:
There seems to be a lot of production money being put into this.. not to mention Roma Downey and Mark Burnett producing. They've been posting some pretty cool behind the scenes content on their community website along with some good Christian discussion.. http://community.bibleseries.tv
I'm not sure how I feel about it though. Do you guys think that the Bible Series will stay in line with the Bible and not be too "Hollywoody"?
Not at all impressed. Will not be wasting my time.
Punisher

Tuckahoe, NY

#75 Mar 13, 2013
IamHim wrote:
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I stand by my analogy. His point was that since the bible did not have those facts it was ALL false. Well the same could be said about any other book that doesnt have ALL the facts that can pertain to the subject. Obviously we both see that this type of thinking is ridiculous. The things that he was looking for is not even necessary. Why do we have to know what composes the soul? Or what we are going to do in heaven? We're on earth lol. When we get there (if we do) then we'll figure that out. The bible (Im not christian so Im referring to the Old testament) helps us get thru this life. But you're right I shouldnt even take his bait. He never answers questions or comments but always demands that someone answers his. Then again, thats the reason why I kept copying and pasting the same argument.
Let me ask you a question since I always assumed you were atheist. Are you? Or are you agnostic?
I'm an atheist. Full blooded so to speak. I'm one of the few who will take the stance of not believing-thinking there is any probability of, or remote possibility of ANY super-Being, intentional creator etc, existing.

That does not however exclude "creative forces"...just not one, or even several Sentient Beings in charge of it all - and most certainly not seeking adherence to some arcane (man-made) rules, and/or worship.
Punisher

Tuckahoe, NY

#76 Mar 13, 2013
IamHim wrote:
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I stand by my analogy. His point was that since the bible did not have those facts it was ALL false. Well the same could be said about any other book that doesnt have ALL the facts that can pertain to the subject. Obviously we both see that this type of thinking is ridiculous. The things that he was looking for is not even necessary. Why do we have to know what composes the soul? Or what we are going to do in heaven? We're on earth lol. When we get there (if we do) then we'll figure that out. The bible (Im not christian so Im referring to the Old testament) helps us get thru this life. But you're right I shouldnt even take his bait. He never answers questions or comments but always demands that someone answers his. Then again, thats the reason why I kept copying and pasting the same argument.

Let me ask you a question since I always assumed you were atheist. Are you? Or are you agnostic?
I agree, most of these Q's are silly. But some are interesting to consider...like parlor games...sitting around with friends and a few libations, letting the imaginations wander, etc...

The other poster is trying to game the table. He says X, Y and Z are important Q's...but many people do not. He demands everyone think they are important because he says so...silly rabbit.

Do me a favor, ask him if his first "journey" explained everything to him? If it didn't than it was all a journey of lies. If we follow his logic.

:)
Punisher

Tuckahoe, NY

#77 Mar 13, 2013
BTW - lies need not be false. So that in and of itself is faulty reasoning.

Q; Did you break the vase?
A; No.

I might not have personally broken it, but was involved in the preceding acts that caused someone else to break it...so while it might be seen as a lie by the questioner, it was not wholly false, and in fact not a true lie.
quala

Hudson, MA

#78 Mar 15, 2013
Yes, very difficult to watch. Too dark and violent. Thought it would be a good lesson but is not.

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