The word was with God

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#42 Jun 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>If Melchizedek is the same as Jesus, how is it that he has no father or mother? Was Mary Jesus' mother? was God his father? Did Melchizedek also have a mother and father or did he magically appear out of nowhere? Your whole NT is full of delusion and absurdities. The Messiah was also to be a self appointed priest and would be a priest upon his throne. Israel was to be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.
You don't know OT or NT.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#43 Jun 29, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't know OT or NT.
Projection. Believe me, I know the OT. I don't study the NT because it is "wind and confusion" and I don't want to pollute my theology with false doctrine.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#44 Jun 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Projection. Believe me, I know the OT.
I don't believe you. I've read the OT too many times. You're lost!
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#45 Jun 29, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe you. I've read the OT too many times. You're lost!
If you read the OT, you would know that Jesus is prophesied as the modern day idol of Israel. Or do you just ignore all those verses? Jesus went to heaven when he died and he has been re incarnated. This time he is going to burst into flames and go to hell. He is a thief and a liar and has sinned against the living God. That is certain death. And he's not just a liar, he's a false witness which is a deadly sin.

Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#46 Jun 29, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Father, Son, Holy Spirit (He)
No Mother, Daughter, Holy Mother
Exodus 28:3
King James Version (KJV)
3 And thou shalt speak unto all that are wise hearted, whom I have filled with the spirit of wisdom, that they may make Aaron's garments to consecrate him, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.

Proverbs 3:19
King James Version (KJV)
19 The Lord by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.

Proverbs 7:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:

Proverbs 8
King James Version (KJV)
8 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth HER voice?

2 SHE standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.

3 SHE crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.

4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.

5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.

6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.

7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.

8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.

9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.

10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.

11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.

12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.

13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.

15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.

16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.

17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.

18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.

19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.

20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:

21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.

22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.

27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:

29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:

30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.

32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.

33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.

34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.

35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord.

36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#47 Jun 29, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus a false god? Pity you!
John>.
No, you make Jesus a false God, Jesus said The Father is the only true God you claim he is also God making him another God.

John 17:1,3
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)

17 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven and said,[a]“Father...the only true God,
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#48 Jun 29, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
So you claim The Messiah arrived thousands of years before John the Baptist announced the arrival of The Messiah?
Isaiah and the prophets are rolling over in their dust.
You have just contradicted the message of The Bible.
How does it feel to be a heretic?
John>>

I think you been watching Arnold Murray to much.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#49 Jun 29, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>If Melchizedek is the same as Jesus, how is it that he has no father or mother? Was Mary Jesus' mother? was God his father? Did Melchizedek also have a mother and father or did he magically appear out of nowhere? Your whole NT is full of delusion and absurdities. The Messiah was also to be a self appointed priest and would be a priest upon his throne. Israel was to be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.
John>>
God the Father has no Mother or Father is Melchizedek God the Father?
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#50 Jun 29, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Then who was Melchizedek? No beginning? Without father or mother? King of righteousness?
Jesus appeared several times in the OT. Melchizedek is absolutely Jesus.
John>>

In the Bible When talking about Jesus it says the word became flesh and dwelt among us only in the New Testament and thats it. no where in the old testament does it say that.

John 1:14
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.
Cisco Kid

Clements, CA

#51 Jun 29, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
John>>
I think you been watching Arnold Murray to much.
Who is Arnold Murray?
Cisco Kid

Clements, CA

#52 Jun 29, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely! His description fits ONLY God.
My friend, you are off course, misdirected.
Melchizedek is not Jesus Christ.
Melchizedek is a prototype or prefiguration of Christ's actions.

Jesus is the Messiah, the Messiah was to come from the loins of David.
Melchizedek was a gentile and preceded the Davidic dynasty by a thousand years.

The Bible venerates several great figures among the Gentiles:
Abel the just, the king-priest Melchizedek—a figure of Christ—and the upright “Noah, Daniel, and Job.”
Scripture thus expresses the heights of sanctity that can be reached by those who live according to the covenant of Noah, waiting for Christ to “gather into one the children of God who are scattered abroad.”
(see Gen 9:16 et al; Luke 21:24 and John 11:52)
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#53 Jun 29, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Who is Arnold Murray?
John>>
He is the TV preacher that teaches that Melchizedek is Jesus Christ
Cisco Kid

Clements, CA

#54 Jun 29, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
John>>
He is the TV preacher that teaches that Melchizedek is Jesus Christ
There is no way under heaven that I think Melchizedek is Jesus Christ.

So let me ask you.
Why did you compare me to this Murray dude?
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#55 Jun 30, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no way under heaven that I think Melchizedek is Jesus Christ.
So let me ask you.
Why did you compare me to this Murray dude?
John>>
I must have misunderstood your post with another post that said Melchizedek is Jesus,sorry

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#56 Jun 30, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>Exodus 28:3
King James Version (KJV)
3 And thou shalt speak unto all that are wise hearted, whom I have filled with the spirit of wisdom, that they may make Aaron's garments to consecrate him, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.
Proverbs 3:19
King James Version (KJV)
19 The Lord by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
Proverbs 7:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:
Proverbs 8
King James Version (KJV)
8 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth HER voice?
2 SHE standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3 SHE crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord.
36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
Try taking it one at a time. That way you will expose your errors.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#57 Jun 30, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
John>.
No, you make Jesus a false God, Jesus said The Father is the only true God you claim he is also God making him another God.
John 17:1,3
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
17 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven and said,[a]“Father...the only true God,
Impossible. Can't make God a false god.
anon

Sydney, Australia

#58 Jun 30, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Impossible. Can't make God a false god.
Have you ever spoke in tongues as according to the word of God?
Cisco Kid

Clements, CA

#59 Jun 30, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
<quoted text>
John>>
I must have misunderstood your post with another post that said Melchizedek is Jesus,sorry
Thank you for your kindness and honesty.
You are a respectable person.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#60 Jun 30, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>If you read the OT, you would know that Jesus is prophesied as the modern day idol of Israel. Or do you just ignore all those verses? Jesus went to heaven when he died and he has been re incarnated. This time he is going to burst into flames and go to hell. He is a thief and a liar and has sinned against the living God. That is certain death. And he's not just a liar, he's a false witness which is a deadly sin.
The Devil has his hooks DEEP in you. He is leading you to Hell.

Revelation 20:10 (NKJV)
10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#61 Jun 30, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>Exodus 28:3
King James Version (KJV)
3 And thou shalt speak unto all that are wise hearted, whom I have filled with the spirit of wisdom, that they may make Aaron's garments to consecrate him, that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.
Proverbs 3:19
King James Version (KJV)
19 The Lord by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.
Proverbs 7:4
King James Version (KJV)
4 Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:
Proverbs 8
King James Version (KJV)
8 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth HER voice?
2 SHE standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3 SHE crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
22 The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the Lord.
36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
And still, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, ALL He.

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