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Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#1 Jun 24, 2013
How can Jesus be God since The word (Jesus) was With God?

John 1:1

King James Version (KJV)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God...

John 1:2

King James Version (KJV)

2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Cisco Kid

Clements, CA

#2 Jun 24, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
How can Jesus be God since The word (Jesus) was With God?
John 1:1
King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God...
John 1:2
King James Version (KJV)
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
There's something wrong with your citation.
You must have left something out.

Properly written John 1:1& 2 read;

"1-In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.

2-He was in the beginning with God."

http://usccb.org/bible/john/1
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#3 Jun 25, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
There's something wrong with your citation.
You must have left something out.
Properly written John 1:1& 2 read;
"1-In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.
2-He was in the beginning with God."
http://usccb.org/bible/john/1
John>>
I was making a point that the Word was with God and in John 1:1-2 it say it 2 times.
buck

AOL

#4 Jun 25, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
How can Jesus be God since The word (Jesus) was With God?
John 1:1
King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God...
John 1:2
King James Version (KJV)
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
hey Johnny I don't know how old you are lol
but,if you read the whole verse and do not leave any words out you might have a better understanding :)
you forgot last part of verse
"and the Word was God" and then go to verse 14 of same chapter it says, "and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us". yeah um, if God was the Word, he was made flesh not.
how about 1 Timothy 3:16 that says "God was manifest
in the flesh" :-)
Cisco Kid

Clements, CA

#5 Jun 25, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
I was making a point that the Word was with God and in John 1:1-2 it say it 2 times.
Of course The Word, Jesus, was with God.

Everywhere I go,...there I am.

Same with you if you think....try it sometime.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#6 Jun 25, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
How can Jesus be God since The word (Jesus) was With God?
John 1:1
King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God...
John 1:2
King James Version (KJV)
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Plurality within the one God of the Bible:

Us, Our, Our

Genesis 1:26 (NKJV)
26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;"

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#7 Jun 25, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
How can Jesus be God since The word (Jesus) was With God?
John 1:1
King James Version (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God...
John 1:2
King James Version (KJV)
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
But you're overlooking one important thing.

What proof did you ever demand to see, and receive, that proves beyond any doubt, that the Christian "god" is real, and that he wrote the book of lies/bible?

For until you have that, all you have is an inane primitive mythology.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Jun 27, 2013
buck wrote:
<quoted text>
hey Johnny I don't know how old you are lol
but,if you read the whole verse and do not leave any words out you might have a better understanding :)
you forgot last part of verse
"and the Word was God" and then go to verse 14 of same chapter it says, "and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us". yeah um, if God was the Word, he was made flesh not.
how about 1 Timothy 3:16 that says "God was manifest
in the flesh" :-)
John>>
There are other translations of 1timothy 3;16 that don`t disagree with Jesus` words at John 4;24 that God is a spirit.

John 4:24

Darby Translation (DARBY)

24 God [is] a spirit; and they who worship him must worship [him] in spirit and truth.

so how could Jesus be God in the flesh since he said god is a spirit?
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Jun 27, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Plurality within the one God of the Bible:
Us, Our, Our
Genesis 1:26 (NKJV)
26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;"
John>>
Yes, God was talking to his son Jesus and Jesus was with him.Jesus is the image of God.

Colossians 1:15

Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born[a] of all creation;
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Jun 27, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course The Word, Jesus, was with God.
Everywhere I go,...there I am.
Same with you if you think....try it sometime.
John>>

This is what I got to say about your silly thinking.

Colossians 2:8

Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)

8 See to it that no one makes a prey of you by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Jun 27, 2013
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
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You have no idea who your "god" was talking to. You just mindlessly repeat what you've been told, like a well trained parrot.
And then you go on to take another verse out of context, that has nothing to do with the other, to deceitfully make it look like it supports your opinion. It doesn't. It is also a corruption of your alleged "god's" so called "word". LOL
Colossians 1:15
King James Version (KJV)
15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
But all your twisted opinion aside, God has NO such special "son" as your man made mythology claims. And God created ALL the first souls at the same time as he created the physical universe.
John>>
Firstborn means Firstborn from colossians 1;15

Our LibraryLexiconsNew Testament Greek LexiconNew Testament Greek Lexicon - King James VersionPrototokos
Prototokos

The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon
Strong's Number: 4416
Original Word Word Origin
prwtovtokoß from (4413) and the alternate of (5088)
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Prototokos 6:871,965
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
pro-tot-ok'-os Adjective
Definition
the firstborn
of man or beast
of Christ, the first born of all creation

King James Word Usage - Total: 9
firstborn 7, first begotten 2

sorry I am not going to get into name calling with you.

Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#13 Jun 27, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Plurality within the one God of the Bible:
Us, Our, Our
Genesis 1:26 (NKJV)
26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;"
Genesis 1:27
King James Version (KJV)
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#14 Jun 27, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Plurality within the one God of the Bible:
Us, Our, Our
Genesis 1:26 (NKJV)
26 Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;"
Genesis 5:2
King James Version (KJV)
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Jun 27, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>Genesis 1:27
King James Version (KJV)
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
John>>
What is your Point?

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#16 Jun 27, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
Yes, God was talking to his son Jesus and Jesus was with him.Jesus is the image of God.
Colossians 1:15
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born[a] of all creation;
Jesus is God. John 1 The word was God. God cannot stop being God.

John 20:28 (NKJV)
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#17 Jun 27, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>Genesis 5:2
King James Version (KJV)
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
God is not female. Always He/Him, Father/Son in the Bible.

Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#18 Jun 28, 2013
Johnny Trunk wrote:
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John>>
What is your Point?
my point is the Feminine part of God which mainstream Christianity has left out for centuries

Genesis 1
King James Version (KJV)

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Genesis 5
King James Version (KJV)
1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Since: Oct 07

Aberdeen, UK

#19 Jun 28, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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God is not female. Always He/Him, Father/Son in the Bible.
really ? so is Genesis lying when it quotes God as saying let us make man in OUR image and MALE and FEMALE he created them and called THEM Adam ?

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#20 Jun 28, 2013
loveismygoal wrote:
<quoted text>really ? so is Genesis lying when it quotes God as saying let us make man in OUR image and MALE and FEMALE he created them and called THEM Adam ?
No Scripture? Of course not. You are Biblically ignorant.
Johnny Trunk

Philadelphia, PA

#21 Jun 28, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus is God. John 1 The word was God. God cannot stop being God.
John 20:28 (NKJV)
28 And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"
John>>

Jesus is the Mighty God not Almighty God himself.
there is a difference.

Isaiah 9:6
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given;
and the government will be upon his shoulder,
and his name will be called
“Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

In the Bible Satan is called a god.

2 Corinthians 4:4
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the likeness of God.

In the Bible Moses is also Called God.

Exodus 7:1
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
7 1 And the Lord said to Moses,“See, I make you as God to Pharaoh; and Aaron your brother shall be your prophet.

Men are Called gods

John 10:34-35
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
34 Jesus answered them,“Is it not written in your law,‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came (and scripture cannot be broken),

Psalm 82:6
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)
6 I say,“You are gods,
sons of the Most High, all of you;

this is what the word for god mean in the interliner.

Theos

The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon
Strong's Number: 2316
Original Word Word Origin
qeovß of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with (3588)) the supreme Divinity
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Theos 3:65,322
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
theh'-os Noun Masculine
Definition
a god or goddess, a general name of deities or divinities
the Godhead, trinity
God the Father, the first person in the trinity
Christ, the second person of the trinity
Holy Spirit, the third person in the trinity
spoken of the only and true God
refers to the things of God
his counsels, interests, things due to him
whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any way
God's representative or viceregent
of magistrates and judges

King James Word Usage - Total: 1343
God 1320, god 13, godly 3, God-ward +(4214)&version=kjv 2, miscellaneous 5

so you see it has many meanings

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