"The End Times"
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socci

Humansville, MO

#104 Mar 7, 2013
*good grief double-post above sorry-

We are told when the "time of the end" began in Dn 12 - following the 42 months or 1260 years of the holy roman empire's dark ages.
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12:5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and swore by him that lives for ever that >>>it shall be for a time, times, and an half<<<; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

12:9 And he said, Go your way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed >>>till the time of the end<<<.

After the "time, times and a half" or 42 months / that is 1260 years using the day-year principle the end times began. This is the sa,e 42 months found in Rev 17, the rise of the NWO - 8th head that replaced the HRE.

• Day-year principle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-year_princip...

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#105 Mar 7, 2013
socci,
no one cares about your Seventh Day Adventist Cult. It was founded in the 1800s by "vision" seeing apostates after their end times predictions failed.

The SDA teach a gospel different than that of which is taught in the Holy Bible. The sect is riddled in false damnable doctrines.

"Seventh-Day Adventist Deception"
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi...

"Hidden Heresies of Seventh-Day Adventists"
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi...

"Does CARM recommend the Seventh-day Adventist Church?"
http://carm.org/religious-movements/seventh-d...
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#106 Mar 7, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
socci,
no one cares about your Seventh Day Adventist Cult. It was founded in the 1800s by "vision" seeing apostates after their end times predictions failed.
The SDA teach a gospel different than that of which is taught in the Holy Bible. The sect is riddled in false damnable doctrines.
"Seventh-Day Adventist Deception"
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi...
"Hidden Heresies of Seventh-Day Adventists"
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi...
"Does CARM recommend the Seventh-day Adventist Church?"
http://carm.org/religious-movements/seventh-d...
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So, that's where his doctrines come from. I kept mulling over those posts, and they didn't sit right with me. Often, 7th Day Adventists can appear as a fundamentalist Christian. Thanks for clarifying "Socci's materials.

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#107 Mar 7, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Only thing passing is my breakfast.
All you xtians have are these empty threats. Never changes. Centuries pile up and so do the empty threats.
Not threats. Promises from the word of God!

Since: Dec 12

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#108 Mar 7, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>These guys are all the same. They fantasize that they will be standing next to Jesus, and he'll give them a wink and nod when he smotes someone they dislike.
Its all part of their cliched God in their own image. They choose a Religion and faith that is obsessed with Death, Doom and Gloom. One that has been mostly one of "justified" accusations (towards others) and not one known for the true hard work of self-work. Xtianity as it is now practiced in the US is bankrupt of any real hard spiritual work. Too many Americans dont want to work hard to better themselves, and American Fundy Xtians are perhaps the laziest of the bunch.
Finger-pointing is the extent of their exercise regimen.
ot obsessed with "doom & gloom." It's called REALITY.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#109 Mar 7, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
<quoted text>So, that's where his doctrines come from. I kept mulling over those posts, and they didn't sit right with me. Often, 7th Day Adventists can appear as a fundamentalist Christian. Thanks for clarifying "Socci's materials.
The SDA cult try to be sneaky at first but eventually they give themselves away. It's my Christian duty to call out false damnable doctrine.

You are correct that on the surface the SDA appear to be fundamentalists, until you learn what they believe. They are teaching a different gospel than that taught in the Word of God.
socci

Humansville, MO

#110 Mar 7, 2013
It is the Christian-Zionist with the false doctrine created in 1900 by Scofield. They just dont like their CZ debunked and their only answer is to claim it is a cult, lol. They have no Bible to disprove anything.

• Zionism, not Jewish but Jesuit

1517, All over Europe the Pope was called The AntiChrist. This prophetic teaching (historicist) was playing havoc with the Roman Church. Millions were escaping and obeying the Lord's command to "come out of her" (Rev. 18:4).

The first Jesuit Superior General Ignatius of Loyola commissioned one of his Jesuits named Francisco Ribera (1537-1591) to write an opposing view. He wrote a 500 page commentary on the Book of Revelation. The main premise of his commentary was that:

(1) Antichrist was one man.. not a empire.
(2) He would be an atheist or infidel.
(3) He would not be revealed until 7 years before the end of time.
(4) He would sit in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and make a covenant with the Jews.
(5) He would call himself God, etc.
(6) The Christians were hindering his appearance but they would be "caught up" raptured to Heaven before his appearance -- the "Left Behind" madness!!

This became the official Roman Catholic position on Antichrist. This new idea (futurism) very conveniently shifted the focus from the Papacy to some fanciful individual way off in the distant future. John Nelson Darby became its main proponent in the English speaking world.

In order to make this "prophecy" come true Jews had to somehow get back to Palestine.

The mighty nation of ancient Israel perished by the Roman sword in 70 A.D., in exact fulfillment of the words of Jesus. The Temple was leveled to the ground and not one stone was left upon another that was not thrown down.

Zionism was realized after WW I with the British Conquest of Palestine. Still, most of the Jews were not interested in going there. After all, most of them were living comfortably in Germany and they had no interest in helping Ribera fulfill his futurism.

Hitler and WW II changed all that. In 1948, the State of Israel was declared and the survivors of the Holocaust had nowhere else to go but Palestine.

www.reformation.org/mideast_crisis.html

http://biblelight.net/antichrist.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurism_%28Chri...

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#111 Mar 7, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>
BS. You cant defend one of your claims. So you rely on empty threats.
I did indeed. You must have been in hiding.

"God gave them up"

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#112 Mar 7, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Stay or not, its irrelevant to reality. Its not part of any prophecy ushering in your sad and pathetic fantasies.
How sad you are.
I realize you are Biblically illiterate. But that's no excuse for your evil words.

Mt 12 On the Day of Judgment your words will condemn you.

You have a huge problem with God.
little lamb

Australia

#113 Mar 7, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no doubt that you Bible haters would murder Christians if you thought you could get by with it. After all, you've been slaughtering the totally helpless unborn for decades.
Wow! That is true...and they are talking about euthanasia..

That is the problem with atheist they have noting but DEATH on their tongue

As scripture says " Life and death in the power of the TONGUE.

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#114 Mar 7, 2013
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow! That is true...and they are talking about euthanasia..
That is the problem with atheist they have noting but DEATH on their tongue
As scripture says " Life and death in the power of the TONGUE.
They are filled with filth and death and that's exactly what they will reap for eternity, filth, death and eternal torment in fire.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#115 Mar 8, 2013
Many a happy clitoris would agree.
little lamb wrote:
<quoted text>
Life and death in the power of the TONGUE.

Since: Dec 12

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#116 Mar 8, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
The SDA cult try to be sneaky at first but eventually they give themselves away. It's my Christian duty to call out false damnable doctrine.
You are correct that on the surface the SDA appear to be fundamentalists, until you learn what they believe. They are teaching a different gospel than that taught in the Word of God.
Yes. Am in complete agreement.

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#117 Mar 8, 2013
socci wrote:
It is the Christian-Zionist with the false doctrine created in 1900 by Scofield. They just dont like their CZ debunked and their only answer is to claim it is a cult, lol. They have no Bible to disprove anything.
• Zionism, not Jewish but Jesuit
1517, All over Europe the Pope was called The AntiChrist. This prophetic teaching (historicist) was playing havoc with the Roman Church. Millions were escaping and obeying the Lord's command to "come out of her" (Rev. 18:4).
The first Jesuit Superior General Ignatius of Loyola commissioned one of his Jesuits named Francisco Ribera (1537-1591) to write an opposing view. He wrote a 500 page commentary on the Book of Revelation. The main premise of his commentary was that:
(1) Antichrist was one man.. not a empire.
(2) He would be an atheist or infidel.
(3) He would not be revealed until 7 years before the end of time.
(4) He would sit in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and make a covenant with the Jews.
(5) He would call himself God, etc.
(6) The Christians were hindering his appearance but they would be "caught up" raptured to Heaven before his appearance -- the "Left Behind" madness!!
This became the official Roman Catholic position on Antichrist. This new idea (futurism) very conveniently shifted the focus from the Papacy to some fanciful individual way off in the distant future. John Nelson Darby became its main proponent in the English speaking world.
In order to make this "prophecy" come true Jews had to somehow get back to Palestine.
The mighty nation of ancient Israel perished by the Roman sword in 70 A.D., in exact fulfillment of the words of Jesus. The Temple was leveled to the ground and not one stone was left upon another that was not thrown down.
Zionism was realized after WW I with the British Conquest of Palestine. Still, most of the Jews were not interested in going there. After all, most of them were living comfortably in Germany and they had no interest in helping Ribera fulfill his futurism.
Hitler and WW II changed all that. In 1948, the State of Israel was declared and the survivors of the Holocaust had nowhere else to go but Palestine.
www.reformation.org/mideast_crisis.html
http://biblelight.net/antichrist.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurism_%28Chri...
Socci, you sound like a hybrid of jack Chick and pastor Arnold Murray.
socci

Humansville, MO

#118 Mar 8, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
Socci, you sound like a hybrid of jack Chick and pastor Arnold Murray.

Jack Chick supports the state of Israel like all other Baptists & dispensationalists. He is right about many things re history of Rome which he probably gets from Hislop's Two Babylons but Chick's wrong when teaching Bible doctrine a-to-z.

Read down this page about Scofield then explain the history of Scofield and dispensationalsim? See if you have this error, like Jack Chick?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Referen...


Jack Chick: The Satanic Roots Of the Vatican & Roman Catholicism
http://web.archive.org/web/20081108023746/htt...
socci

Humansville, MO

#119 Mar 8, 2013
socci wrote:
Is 66:8 "Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children."
Israel came out of Egypt and brought forth the Messiah. It's a messianic passage.
The only thing fulfilled in 1948 was one of those three unclean frogs (false doctrine), Rev 16.

Here's Matthew Henry's take on that verse. He says it was when the Hebrews came out of the 70 year captivity in Babylon, not Egypt. Captivity in Egypt was earlier.

www.blueletterbible.org/commentaries/comm_vie...

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