The Jehovah Witness is a Dangerous CU...
undude

UK

#66 Mar 13, 2013
Shhhh..be quiet now..go back to being brainwashed and waiting for armageddon
undude

UK

#67 Mar 13, 2013
ms_tickled wrote:
<quoted text>Nobody needs to prove a thing to you, the proof that there is a God is right in your face,His creation, if you insisted on keeping your blinders on and suppressing truth then thats your foolish choice. Keep in mind that there are no second chances from the grave. You have an opportunity while you still live to choose eternal life.
loll oh dear what have we got here..
josh25

Boston, MA

#68 Mar 15, 2013
@Britbulldog

Sir after reading all of your comments, it's clear that you're an atheist who decided to bash jws. Non of your statements are right (do your research). Not everything on the Internet is true (duh) and some of the sources you'll find on the Internet regarding jws are not true and most likely written by ppl who obviously don't like jws lol such as yourself.

ALSO Jws are not a cult. Ppl please do your research rather than believing random stuff you read from the Internet. Cults are Catholics which praise the pope. Hitler was a cult. Not jws, they they don't pledge to any human. Only god. For you ppl who are curious about the religion jws (Christians) I ask you to do your own research rather than letting your mind get convinced from ppl who don't know squat (britbulldog). And if anything it wouldn't hurt to ask a jw or attend some of their meetings. You don't have to be jw to attend their meetings. That's what I did when I was curious about them. I was told so many diff things so I just decided to make them a few visits and see for myself. A lot of the stuff on the Internet is not true. Like Wikipedia anything on the Internet can be wrong and not necessarily right. Common sense wouldn't you say?
josh25

Boston, MA

#69 Mar 15, 2013
P.S - Jws bible is not scripted. The NWT (New Word Translation) is practically the same as reading a Shakespeare book that has been simplified in english. It's made in simpler terms to help people comprehend scriptures better since for many its hard to understand the original bible. EVIDENCE? just take a jw bible and compare it to any other bible simple as that. Analyze it for yourself and you'll see that everything is the same. Many people say that the jw bible (nwt) is written to their own convenience... again NOT true. Every bible is the same. Don't believe it or need proof? Analyze it. Some people will disagree with this. Again don't listen to me nor them nor anyone else. Just ask a jw for a bible when they knock on your door (very annoying btw) and compare their bible to any other and you'll see the results for yourself.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#71 Mar 15, 2013
josh25 wrote:
P.S - Jws bible is not scripted. The NWT (New Word Translation) is practically the same as reading a Shakespeare book that has been simplified in english. It's made in simpler terms to help people comprehend scriptures better since for many its hard to understand the original bible. EVIDENCE? just take a jw bible and compare it to any other bible simple as that. Analyze it for yourself and you'll see that everything is the same. Many people say that the jw bible (nwt) is written to their own convenience... again NOT true. Every bible is the same. Don't believe it or need proof? Analyze it. Some people will disagree with this. Again don't listen to me nor them nor anyone else. Just ask a jw for a bible when they knock on your door (very annoying btw) and compare their bible to any other and you'll see the results for yourself.
Do you want to join my cult?
Stephen

Nottingham, UK

#72 Mar 15, 2013
TheOmniMatrix wrote:
Jehovah Witness Cult Endangers Children and Deceives Adults
http://cross.tv/85324
Millions Leave Jehovah Witness Cult and Islam After Realizing God's Triune Nature
http://youtu.be/xgWB1XWrlW8
Don't let their empty smiles fool you. They are the victims of psychological programing and irrationality. The Jehovah witnesses never allow their members to think for themselves. This Hierarchical pyramid religious system is demonic. There's no accountability, Christ is dishonored and they hide all their dirty little secret deeds of perversion from the public. They all serve and follow the same Lucifer Satan. Their brainwashing sessions are all designed to funnel more and more money to unseen oligarchy of billionaire False Prophets who profit from all of the deceived Jehovah Witness slaves.
More About the Jehovah Witnesses Cult:
Ex-Jehovah Witnesses Interview
http://cross.tv/84660
Former Jehovah Witnesses
http://cross.tv/84658
Jehovah Witness Cult of Mind Control
http://www.cross.tv/53829
Jehovah´s Witnesses founded by Illuminati!- Top 13 Bloodlines
http://cross.tv/84680
Jehovah Witnesses: History of Shame
http://www.cross.tv/53879
Jehovah Witnesses Cause Mental Illness
http://www.cross.tv/53833
Jehovah Witness Cult False Prophecy about 1975
http://www.cross.tv/44124
The 1975 Jehovah Witness False Prophecy
http://www.cross.tv/44128
Marks of a Cult
http://www.cross.tv/38044
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I admit that the WatchTower, in my opinion, does have false teachings. However, I've noticed that JW's have a lot more passion than the average church attender. JW's also believe in keeping God's commandments, whereas the average church attender tries to make excuses for sin. That's why more and more churches are embracing homosexuality, fornication, abortion, divorce, slander, envy, hypocrisy, etc.

So yer, the WatchTower may have false teachings, but at least JW's are more passionate about God than the average church attender.

“theholychristian church.com”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#73 Mar 16, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
I admit that the WatchTower, in my opinion, does have false teachings. However, I've noticed that JW's have a lot more passion than the average church attender. JW's also believe in keeping God's commandments, whereas the average church attender tries to make excuses for sin. That's why more and more churches are embracing homosexuality, fornication, abortion, divorce, slander, envy, hypocrisy, etc.
So yer, the WatchTower may have false teachings, but at least JW's are more passionate about God than the average church attender.
You your self are misguided. The JW are Nr.2 on the list of child abuse in the churches and are
a true harlot's house! They are filth.

Their passion for their cult reflects the extent of their folly. They are fools.

Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org

- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
Stephen

Nottingham, UK

#75 Mar 16, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
<quoted text>
You your self are misguided. The JW are Nr.2 on the list of child abuse in the churches and are
a true harlot's house! They are filth.
Their passion for their cult reflects the extent of their folly. They are fools.
Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org
- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.
Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...
- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
You're a liar. There is child abuse in many different churches. What I've seen of JW's is that although they have false teachings, they have much more desire to keep God's commandments than the average church attender. Either you are a liar or you're just ignorant.

“theholychristian church.com”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#76 Mar 16, 2013
Stephen wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a liar. There is child abuse in many different churches. What I've seen of JW's is that although they have false teachings, they have much more desire to keep God's commandments than the average church attender. Either you are a liar or you're just ignorant.
Well, Fool. If what you THINK you have seen is the truth then the YW are not 2nd on the list of child abusers. Keeping the commandments of God does not involve forbidding people to eat this and that and forbidding them to give blood. They are just like the others, but on may point they are worst.

TI1 (Timothy) 4: 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
TI1 4: 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
TI1 4: 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
TI1 4: 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
TI1 4: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

http://www.silentlambs.org
teetee

Phoenix, AZ

#77 Mar 17, 2013
Absolutely a horrible cult. I studied for about r months. They do not tell you the really crazy things at the beginning. They wait and add their garbage. It is unreal how peculiar their Bible is. I know of 2 suicides after disfellowshipping. Families are torn apart. Worst part is these people seek out friendly people and tell them what a good witness they would make. I really like people and thought they were nice until I realized I was service hours added on and a study and nothing more. Ththe moment you tell the majority you are bored silly by their meetings, they tell you Satan is trying to keep you from. The truth. Thing is the songs are even emotionless. It is not a meeting of Christ love but of parroting the Watchtower teachings. I haven't a clue why they have to study so long to go.to their service when any 7 y.o. could repeat exactly what the Watchtower says only in a few different words. It is very very sad.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#78 Mar 17, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, Fool.
Matthew 5:22 (NKJV)
But whoever says,'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

“theholychristian church.com”

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Location hidden

#79 Mar 18, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Matthew 5:22 (NKJV)
But whoever says,'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
And what is the meaning thereof, in this context?'Brother' means fellow Christian (and thus on the same level, there is no variation): I am not a Christian and I do
not know if you are. Anyway, so at least I, am not a brother of other Christians, for I have not been reborn from their father and mother: Jesus and the Gospel.

Christian = a repented and baptized person.

The word fool may be used to correctly answer a foolish person or a person who argues or reasons foolishly. Here the biblical examples.

CALLING ONE FOOL

Well, fool! We have discussed this before, and so here my response again:
a) my anger is not without a cause.
b) brother, in the context it's used in here means 'Fellow Christian'.
Christians are equal in their understanding and acceptance of the gospel: repent and baptize and follow all your live is accepted by all Christians.
Any christian can call any non-christian a fool when the laater speaks foolishly about the gospel, just like Jesus did.

PROOF 1
MAT 5: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother WITHOUT A CAUSE shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

PROOF 2
PHI 4: 21 Salute every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you

FOOL
MAT 23: 17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
MAT 23: 19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
LUK 11: 40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?
LUK 24: 25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
CO1 15: 36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

FOOL, QUOTING FOOL
GAL 3: 1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
GAL 3: 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

What is a christian and what is baptism:
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#80 Mar 18, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
<quoted text>
And what is the meaning thereof, in this context?'Brother' means fellow Christian (and thus on the same level, there is no variation): I am not a Christian and I do
not know if you are. Anyway, so at least I, am not a brother of other Christians, for I have not been reborn from their father and mother: Jesus and the Gospel.
Christian = a repented and baptized person.
The word fool may be used to correctly answer a foolish person or a person who argues or reasons foolishly. Here the biblical examples.
CALLING ONE FOOL
Well, fool! We have discussed this before, and so here my response again:
a) my anger is not without a cause.
b) brother, in the context it's used in here means 'Fellow Christian'.
Christians are equal in their understanding and acceptance of the gospel: repent and baptize and follow all your live is accepted by all Christians.
Any christian can call any non-christian a fool when the laater speaks foolishly about the gospel, just like Jesus did.
PROOF 1
MAT 5: 22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother WITHOUT A CAUSE shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
PROOF 2
PHI 4: 21 Salute every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you
FOOL
MAT 23: 17 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
MAT 23: 19 Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
LUK 11: 40 Ye fools, did not he that made that which is without make that which is within also?
LUK 24: 25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
CO1 15: 36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
FOOL, QUOTING FOOL
GAL 3: 1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
GAL 3: 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
What is a christian and what is baptism:
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...
Psalm 1:1 (NKJV)
1 Blessed is the man Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
heggeg

Rochester, PA

#81 Mar 18, 2013
youtube.com/watch... ……
Get Over it,,but I agree

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#82 Mar 18, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Psalm 1:1 (NKJV)
1 Blessed is the man Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
And what is the counsel of the ungodly?

Guys like you admitting fornication in their assemblies, churches who claim that fornication is
permissable to God under repented baptized christians. Guys who change god's word for that
of men Etc.

Thus, your quote of this line to me is irrelevant and a waste of your time, FOOL.

Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#83 Mar 19, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
<quoted text>
And what is the counsel of the ungodly?
Those who reject the Bible.
Miked2020

Fontana, CA

#84 Mar 24, 2013
I have a background in religious history. I have studied many hours about the differences in both JW Christian beliefs and other Christians in this world. There is no doubt in my mind the truth exists only at the Kingdom Hall.

I know there are many bad things about them on the Internet. I urge you not to listen to any of it. The reasons people leave the Jehovah's witnesses is because in the organization you can't be worldly and must stand firm in true Christianity and this is very difficult for many. So rather then live a true honest life for Jehovah they fall away and make excuses for why. The fact is that the organization is perfect. It's mankind that is imperfect.

Unfortunately the Catholic Church and later Christian churches have taught wrong things about Christianity that don't derive from Christ or Jehovah. Some deliberate and some through mistranslations of the original Koine Greek language.

Much ideology has been created that is not true.

For instance in John 1:1 it says in modern christian bibles that the Word was God. However, theres a bible that pre-dates all other modern translations of the New Testament. It was written and translated in the 1st century and was called the Coptic bible. It was brought to Egypt by the Apostle Mark and was written in original Koine greek and Egyptian. Koine Greek which is the language that Jesus spoke along with all the writers of the New Testament differs slightly from other modern Greek languages.

In the Coptic bible it reads John 1:1 as the Word was a God.
In 451 AD at the council of Chalcedon where modern Christianity came from its interesting to note that the Coptic Christians wanted nothing to do with attending due to the fact that they had different views about God and Jesus. The view of Jesus as God was created at the council of Nicea in 325 AD. It's interesting also to note that Koine Greek was a dead language after the 2nd century AD. So the council members truly didn't understand certain terms or expressions and ways of writing and thinking that the original authors of the New Testament meant.

It's reasonable to think that the Coptic's had a closer view on the Truth of Jesus then the later attendees of the 4 other Ecumenical councils which is where modern Christianity comes from.

Another thing the church did was the deliberate hiding of the name Yahweh (Jehovah)

Also, the word hell which was translated from 3 words of Greek and Hebrew.(Gehenna, Sheol, Hades). Hell is actually a valley called the Valley of Hinnom. It's outside of Jerusalem on the south side. In Jesus days it was a trash dump where the wicked who weren't worthy of a burial were thrown into sulfur and fire with maggots and worms. Prior to Jesus life on earth It was a place of pagan worship with child sacrifices done there. It was deemed a cursed place for the wicked up until Jesus days.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#85 Mar 24, 2013
Miked2020 wrote:
I have a background in religious history. I have studied many hours about the differences in both JW Christian beliefs and other Christians in this world. There is no doubt in my mind the truth exists only at the Kingdom Hall.
I know there are many bad things about them on the Internet. I urge you not to listen to any of it. The reasons people leave the Jehovah's witnesses is because in the organization you can't be worldly and must stand firm in true Christianity and this is very difficult for many. So rather then live a true honest life for Jehovah they fall away and make excuses for why. The fact is that the organization is perfect. It's mankind that is imperfect.
Unfortunately the Catholic Church and later Christian churches have taught wrong things about Christianity that don't derive from Christ or Jehovah. Some deliberate and some through mistranslations of the original Koine Greek language.
Much ideology has been created that is not true.
For instance in John 1:1 it says in modern christian bibles that the Word was God. However, theres a bible that pre-dates all other modern translations of the New Testament. It was written and translated in the 1st century and was called the Coptic bible. It was brought to Egypt by the Apostle Mark and was written in original Koine greek and Egyptian. Koine Greek which is the language that Jesus spoke along with all the writers of the New Testament differs slightly from other modern Greek languages.
In the Coptic bible it reads John 1:1 as the Word was a God.
In 451 AD at the council of Chalcedon where modern Christianity came from its interesting to note that the Coptic Christians wanted nothing to do with attending due to the fact that they had different views about God and Jesus. The view of Jesus as God was created at the council of Nicea in 325 AD. It's interesting also to note that Koine Greek was a dead language after the 2nd century AD. So the council members truly didn't understand certain terms or expressions and ways of writing and thinking that the original authors of the New Testament meant.
It's reasonable to think that the Coptic's had a closer view on the Truth of Jesus then the later attendees of the 4 other Ecumenical councils which is where modern Christianity comes from.
Another thing the church did was the deliberate hiding of the name Yahweh (Jehovah)
Also, the word hell which was translated from 3 words of Greek and Hebrew.(Gehenna, Sheol, Hades). Hell is actually a valley called the Valley of Hinnom. It's outside of Jerusalem on the south side. In Jesus days it was a trash dump where the wicked who weren't worthy of a burial were thrown into sulfur and fire with maggots and worms. Prior to Jesus life on earth It was a place of pagan worship with child sacrifices done there. It was deemed a cursed place for the wicked up until Jesus days.
The 'eternal fire' is in EVERY English Bible.

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#86 Mar 24, 2013
Miked2020 wrote:
I have a background in religious history. I have studied many hours about the differences in both JW Christian beliefs and other Christians in this world. There is no doubt in my mind the truth exists only at the Kingdom Hall.
there. It was deemed a cursed place for the wicked up until Jesus days.
Great post! But if you believe the truth then you should also understand itfully. I love the info on the Coptic Bible, the oldest copy. I am seeking a copy of it online.

I would expect a better example of wrong teachings from you: like the JW teaching to deny our neighbours blood and not to eat blood, whilest Jesus said to love your neighbour and that Christians can eat anything, save they say the grace before they eat.

The quote below does not difer from the quote in de modern bible. Why? Well, it is the essence of the sentance and not the grammar.'And the word it wa God', or 'And the word was a God', has the same meaning.

Quote: In the Coptic bible it reads John 1:1 as the Word was a God.

After the KJ version appeared the Catholic church removed their falsifications from the Gospel, and thus even their DR translation of the Gospel is now genuine en good to read ( without their doctrine to it).

No matter what erros there are in the book: not one, would it be followed can lead a person into damnation, for god would be a FOOL to allow this to happen.

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- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org
Miked2020

United States

#87 Mar 24, 2013
The Challenge of Knowing God by Name
THERE is someone who wants to prevent you from knowing Jehovah’s name and enjoying a close relationship with Him. Who is this evil foe? The Bible explains:“The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers.” The god of this present ungodly world is Satan the Devil. He wants to keep you in darkness so that your heart will not be illuminated with “the glorious knowledge of God.” Satan does not want you to know Jehovah by name. How, though, does Satan blind people’s minds?—2 Corinthians 4:4-6. Satan has used false religion to hinder people from coming to know God by name. For ex: in ancient times some Jews chose to ignore the inspired Scriptures in favor of tradition that called for avoiding the use of God’s name. By the first centuries of our Common Era, Jewish public readers had evidently been instructed, not to read God’s name as it appeared in their Holy Scriptures, but to substitute the word&#700;Adho·nai&#82 42;, meaning “Lord.” Doubtless, this practice contributed to a tragic decline in spirituality. Many lost out on the benefits of a close personal relationship with God. What, though, about Jesus? What was his attitude toward Jehovah’s name? Jesus and His Followers Made God’s Name Known. Jesus declared in prayer to his Father:“I have made your name known ... and will make it known.”(John 17:26) Jesus would undoubtedly have pronounced God’s name on numerous occasions when he read, quoted, or explained portions of the Hebrew Scriptures containing that important name. Jesus would thus have used God’s name just as freely as all the prophets did before him. If any Jews were already avoiding the use of God’s name during the time of Jesus’ ministry, Jesus would certainly not have followed their tradition. He strongly criticized the religious leaders when he said to them:“You have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition.”—Matthew 15:6. Faithful followers of Jesus continued to make God’s name known after Jesus’ death and resurrection. At Pentecost 33 C.E., the very day the Christian congregation was formed, the apostle Peter, quoting from a prophecy of Joel, said to a multitude of Jews and proselytes:“Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.”(Acts 2:21; Joel 2:32)

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