Tower of Babble vs NASA Question

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#144 Jul 25, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Yep... When one is backed into a corner and proven wrong the insults usually come out lol
Prove you're not a buffoon.
Flygerian

Oklahoma City, OK

#145 Jul 25, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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I think you're lying but that's OK. I'll play your little game.
Which part is wrong?
A) Sola Scriptura
B) non-denominational
C) born again
D) evangelical fundamentalist
E) Jesus freak
All of it

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#146 Jul 25, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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Over 99% of scientist in relevant fields of earth and life sciences except theory of evolution.
It's funny.You take advantage of things modern science has made possible while not believe in science.Yet you have the balls to basically call HighlyEvolved an idiot.
So, what is it with all you about us 'not believing in science'?

Thanks for pointing it out that "99%" of 'scientists' believe in what they do "except" for evolution...

LMELAO!!!!

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#147 Jul 25, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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That's easy: I'm not you.
So you are an idiot!!!

Thanks for proving my point!!!

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#148 Jul 25, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Keep your strange fantasies and fetishes to yourself lol
Thinking forgot to mention that the only reason he would know is that he uses tweezers as well, but left out the magnifying glass...
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#149 Jul 25, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Prove you're not a buffoon.
Flygerian wrote:
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Yep... When one is backed into a corner and proven wrong the insults usually come out lol
Yea I think this quote fits in here nicely lol
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#150 Jul 25, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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Thinking forgot to mention that the only reason he would know is that he uses tweezers as well, but left out the magnifying glass...
lol thats between you and thinking. I dont want to be involved with his thoughts about me and tweezers anymore lol

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#151 Jul 25, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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May I ask how history shows that at the time of Genesis 11 (this means when the event allegedly happened not when it was written) people already had different languages?
The story has been widely understood to tell of a miraculous intervention by which different languages were introduced and the population thus became unable to understand one another. But it must be noted that the different groups among not only the Japhethites and Chamites, 10:5,20, but also among the Semites, 10:31, are already recorded to have had their various languages, and as the two former groups are already out of the story, the origin of languages is not recorded here. Moreover, the word for "languages" is lason which is that used in 10:5, 20, 31. In our passage this word is not found. That used is sapah, "lip," which also signifies "utterance." The natural meaning here is that the people at first in complete harmony "all saying the same thing" fell out among themselves and could not agree upon a common policy; and as a result of the discord (and possibly of fighting) there was a migration. Already in the fourth century St. Gregory of Nyssa was quite emphatic that God did not miraculously impose different languages on mankind.(192-193)
http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/what-w...
Patriot

Denver, CO

#152 Jul 25, 2013
Patriot wrote:
Speaking of NASA: URGENT: Watch, Share, Prepare -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Ae1WUOUFdTsXX
The NWO Beast/Babylon - Global Governance/Government is revealed in "The Revelation of Jesus Christ which GOD gave Him to show..." Chapter 18 http://biblehub.com/niv/revelation/18.htm , & Revelation 14:6-12 http://biblehub.com/nlt/revelation/14.htm are the Creator's last Warning Messages to mankind. "Wickedness" is what rides or controls this Beast as revealed in Zechariah 5 http://biblehub.com/hcsb/zechariah/5.htm and Revelation 17 http://biblehub.com/nlt/revelation/17.htm note vs 3.
Why a "Lead covering" on the "measuring basket" that measures "iniquity/sin" in Zechariah 5 (compare Revelation 11's "measuring")... http://enenews.com/ Radiation. The "covering" has obviously been removed.
Note the Preamble to the 7 Trumpets at Revelation 8:5, "And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices (some versions say 'noises or sounds'), and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/8.htm
We've heard the Voices/Sounds/Noises http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/20...
"Thunderings, and Lightnings" http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/20...
What we're waiting for and the earth is preparing for is the first Global Earthquake.
We're also told the Great Tribulation will also be a time of Great Deception: http://niv.scripturetext.com/2_thessalonians/... Note verses 9-12.
Important: Note GOD'S description of His people in The Revelation of Jesus Christ which GOD gave Him to show..." ch. 12 vs 17: http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/12-1.... , then again in The Revelation in ch. 14 vs 12 http://biblehub.com/revelation/14-12.htm
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Correction: "Voices/Sounds/Noises " http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#153 Jul 25, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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What?? Atheists make claims all the time lol. They "claim" that nothing was created. Therefore (by your system/logic of debate) they have to provide proof for their claim.
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Wow.... You just implied that since the claim was FIRST that there is a God (lol something you do not have proof for) that its on every person that agrees with this to provide proof. Did I get this right?
At the end of the day, no matter how much you switch it around, if one person makes a claim and has to provide proof, than the other does as well. You cant make one do something and than the other be lax lol. Well not when its EQUITY
Which would come first, me claiming you don't have two dollars in your pocket or you claiming you do?

Obviously you would first make the claim about having two dollars in your pocket before I could say, "No you don't." And when I say, "No you don't" that pretty much implies "Prove it."

No one could have claimed there was no God until someone said there was. Thus the burden of proof is upon the first claimant, not the denier.

You claim that your God exists, and I say I will not accept your claim as true until you provide sufficient evidence.

Someone else claims that god X exists, and I demand the same proof from them as I do of you.

Someone else claims that god Y exists, and I demand the same proof from them as I do of you and the god X claimant.

Given enough time, and enough claims, when every claimant fails to provide proof that God, god X, god Y, god Z etc. exist, it is perfectly valid for me to conclude that no gods exist. Or, to be fair, it's valid for me to say that no gods which have been claimed to exist actually exist.

Does some other god, heretofore unnamed or not spoken of, exist? Possibly.

But it isn't your God, or god X or god Y or god Z.

So who cares if atheists believe no gods exist? We know your God doesn't exist, and that's all you need to know. The rest is irrelevant.

Since: Jun 10

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#154 Jul 25, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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But somehow you can watch whats going on in say Iraq from the nice comfy seat of your home. How does that work?
We could mention at least another handful of places where religious belief is one of the roots of conflicts, but mostly as being the glue for keeping the conflicts going.

What can we do?

If a few people among us are telling them what the real problem is; don’t expect that many will listen; at least those who are actively taking part in causing trouble are blind and deaf to what we might have to say.

And the worst thing we can do is to interfere, and then it could start new fires everywhere.

It is about pushing things too far, every person claiming their right and freedom to live; have many children, own more things, the right for more “lebensraum” at the personal level.
When all of this is summed up for everybody, then this planet will become too small, and it has, what we can see is only the start of it.

Then who can be blamed, is it governments or some other nation, nature, belief or whatever other common “opponent” to the prosperity of the human race can we find?

Or what have been leading us astray?

Is it the arrogance of success, how modern medicine, agriculture, technical progress, democratic progress and beliefs have made us believe that it will bring us into heaven?

Arrogance is to my understanding a key word, hiding in the midst of the “flock” we all, everybody, are claiming our “rights” to have the larger piece of the cake.
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#155 Jul 25, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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Which would come first, me claiming you don't have two dollars in your pocket or you claiming you do?
Obviously you would first make the claim about having two dollars in your pocket before I could say, "No you don't." And when I say, "No you don't" that pretty much implies "Prove it."
No one could have claimed there was no God until someone said there was. Thus the burden of proof is upon the first claimant, not the denier.
You claim that your God exists, and I say I will not accept your claim as true until you provide sufficient evidence.
Someone else claims that god X exists, and I demand the same proof from them as I do of you.
Someone else claims that god Y exists, and I demand the same proof from them as I do of you and the god X claimant.
Given enough time, and enough claims, when every claimant fails to provide proof that God, god X, god Y, god Z etc. exist, it is perfectly valid for me to conclude that no gods exist. Or, to be fair, it's valid for me to say that no gods which have been claimed to exist actually exist.
Does some other god, heretofore unnamed or not spoken of, exist? Possibly.
But it isn't your God, or god X or god Y or god Z.
So who cares if atheists believe no gods exist? We know your God doesn't exist, and that's all you need to know. The rest is irrelevant.
More avoidance lol. Lets try again

" Atheists make claims all the time lol. They "claim" that nothing was created. Therefore (by your system/logic of debate) they have to provide proof for their claim."

Cant have it one way and not the other.
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#156 Jul 25, 2013
Mr Ironhart wrote:
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We could mention at least another handful of places where religious belief is one of the roots of conflicts, but mostly as being the glue for keeping the conflicts going.
What can we do?
If a few people among us are telling them what the real problem is; don’t expect that many will listen; at least those who are actively taking part in causing trouble are blind and deaf to what we might have to say.
And the worst thing we can do is to interfere, and then it could start new fires everywhere.
It is about pushing things too far, every person claiming their right and freedom to live; have many children, own more things, the right for more “lebensraum” at the personal level.
When all of this is summed up for everybody, then this planet will become too small, and it has, what we can see is only the start of it.
Then who can be blamed, is it governments or some other nation, nature, belief or whatever other common “opponent” to the prosperity of the human race can we find?
Or what have been leading us astray?
Is it the arrogance of success, how modern medicine, agriculture, technical progress, democratic progress and beliefs have made us believe that it will bring us into heaven?
Arrogance is to my understanding a key word, hiding in the midst of the “flock” we all, everybody, are claiming our “rights” to have the larger piece of the cake.
Really what I meant by that quote is that you could see something that you were physically a distance away from. Nonetheless what do you think is leading us astray down this dark path? Just human free will? And where does it lead to in your opinion?
Thinking

Royston, UK

#157 Jul 26, 2013
I've never been near Flygerian with a pair of tweezers, or with anything else for that matter. How do you know so much about him?
NDanger wrote:
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Thinking forgot to mention that the only reason he would know is that he uses tweezers as well, but left out the magnifying glass...

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#158 Jul 26, 2013
NDanger wrote:
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So, what is it with all you about us 'not believing in science'?
I find it amusing.Plus you really should be against many other fields of science as well. Astronomy,Cosmology,Physics,Ch emistry,Biology and Geology all go against what is in the bible.
NDanger wrote:
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Thanks for pointing it out that "99%" of 'scientists' believe in what they do "except" for evolution...
LMELAO!!!!
Like my mother use to tell me. Go by what I mean not what I say. You knew what I was trying to say.

Except in place of accept That's what happens when a dude with dyslexia does not check his works.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#159 Jul 26, 2013
I always know what you mean when you post, but I can't assume NDanger even knows what day it is.
Jammercolo wrote:
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I find it amusing.Plus you really should be against many other fields of science as well. Astronomy,Cosmology,Physics,Ch emistry,Biology and Geology all go against what is in the bible.
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Like my mother use to tell me. Go by what I mean not what I say. You knew what I was trying to say.
Except in place of accept That's what happens when a dude with dyslexia does not check his works.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#160 Jul 26, 2013
Does your god watch pornography?
The Seven Spirits of God wrote:
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NO
But I know you do even though you lied about it.
God told me you watch pornography.

“Vader2016!”

Since: Sep 10

The Deathstar

#161 Jul 26, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Tisk tisk tisk lol
Here let me repost what I already said
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Next time try not to falsely accuse ;)
It does say that.

It does say what they were doing and it says that they would be able to accomplish anything and it says that is the reason why it was done.
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#162 Jul 26, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
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It does say that.
It does say what they were doing and it says that they would be able to accomplish anything and it says that is the reason why it was done.
Show me where it shows that they were scattered because they were about to reach heaven. Ready? GO!!!

Since: Jun 10

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#163 Jul 26, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
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Really what I meant by that quote is that you could see something that you were physically a distance away from. Nonetheless what do you think is leading us astray down this dark path? Just human free will? And where does it lead to in your opinion?
The problem is common rights without obligations, we are happy to claim our rights but obligations are more often than not forgotten.
I know this problem very well from my own experiences with a group of people.

What we at some point will have for free has to be paid for by someone at some point, and that might just as well be us.

One example could be cheap products from a low cost country that everybody buys happily, and then in next turn people are loosing jobs because they can’t compete.

It is about balance, not to “over pasture” just because of the given opportunity.

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