Tower of Babble vs NASA Question

Tower of Babble vs NASA Question

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#1 Jul 22, 2013
1st question

The Tower of Babble... Workers have their "tongues twisted" so that they speak other languages for trying to reach the heavens.

However, god does not seem to have an issue with a multinational space program actually succeeding. Why is this?

2nd question.

Also, how did the Earth get repopulated enough to do this and build the pyramids with only about 150 years after the bible's mass human extinction story (Noah's Arc?)

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#2 Jul 22, 2013
Come on guys, I am seeking enlightenment.

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#3 Jul 23, 2013
Hello?

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#4 Jul 23, 2013
You're forgetting the fact that Jesus had a magic pony thereby making all things possible.

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#5 Jul 23, 2013
Seems like someone has a spiritual lesson/fable conflated with reality. If you're truly seeking enlightenment, read the story as a fable, and not something that many see as fact, and see if you can figure out if there are any underlying spiritual messages.

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#6 Jul 23, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
Come on guys, I am seeking enlightenment.
Some big and destructive flood might well have happened somewhere in the Middle East at that time but it wasn’t the whole world how we know it, only just a smaller area like for instance the Egyptian Nile delta?
We know that the destruction of the Greek island Thyra also named Santorini caused a tsunami flood of enormous dimensions.
An event like that would not pass away without being mentioned in some way or another, but not necessarily exactly how it happened.

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#7 Jul 23, 2013
scambuster wrote:
Seems like someone has a spiritual lesson/fable conflated with reality. If you're truly seeking enlightenment, read the story as a fable, and not something that many see as fact, and see if you can figure out if there are any underlying spiritual messages.
So you are saying all of this is a "made up" story?

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#8 Jul 23, 2013
scambuster wrote:
see if you can figure out if there are any underlying spiritual messages.
Also, what is spiritual about a story talking about drowning entire families including babies?

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#9 Jul 23, 2013
scambuster wrote:
Seems like someone has a spiritual lesson/fable conflated with reality. If you're truly seeking enlightenment, read the story as a fable, and not something that many see as fact, and see if you can figure out if there are any underlying spiritual messages.
I have to ask this as well... does the bible say that the story is a fable? If not, how do you know?

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#10 Jul 23, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
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Also, what is spiritual about a story talking about drowning entire families including babies?
Because ancient Jewish culture is fierce and bloody?

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#11 Jul 23, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
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So you are saying all of this is a "made up" story?
At least some of it is, obviously. It may have been based upon some true event, but to believe it is ALL true is just unreasonable.
Thinking

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#12 Jul 23, 2013
Assuming it is not a literal account, what do you think the purpose of the sodom and gomorrah story is?
scambuster wrote:
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At least some of it is, obviously. It may have been based upon some true event, but to believe it is ALL true is just unreasonable.

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#13 Jul 23, 2013
scambuster wrote:
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At least some of it is, obviously. It may have been based upon some true event, but to believe it is ALL true is just unreasonable.
Does the bible state that the story is a fable?

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#14 Jul 23, 2013
scambuster wrote:
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Because ancient Jewish culture is fierce and bloody?
You said
scambuster wrote:
and see if you can figure out if there are any underlying spiritual messages.
So, what is the spiritual message?
Flygerian

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#15 Jul 23, 2013
Has man reached outerspace recently?
Thinking

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#16 Jul 23, 2013
There are currently six people in the ISS, orbiting in outer space as defined below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1rm%C3%A1n...
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Has man reached outerspace recently?

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#17 Jul 23, 2013
Flygerian wrote:
Has man reached outerspace recently?
Yes, still there, still no signs of god or heaven.

Besides this, does it really matter the last time?(discounting the fact that people live there now.)

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#18 Jul 23, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
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Also, what is spiritual about a story talking about drowning entire families including babies?
May I butt in for a sec and give you what I think is a good explanation of that story?
:)

Noah's covenant forms part of the basis of salvation history. If Noah's story is nothing more than a reworking of the Gelgamesh epic or some other myth, then St. Peter and Jesus Himself were mistaken.



Again, Noah is a historical person (although his literal name wasn't "Noah"), and the Covenant really happened. BUT, what we have in Genesis is NOT a literal historical narrative, but an account written in MYTHIC language. And, if you do not come to terms with this, you will, sooner or later, hit a brick wall. Catholicism is a REAL faith, and one must deal with our Traditional heritage REALISTICALLY. We may not bury our heads in the sand.



It is also true that the Flood was a major historical event in the fertile crescent that is attested to in several places. The Greeks, the Hindus, the Babylonians, and several others have stories about the Deluge. Recently, it has been shown that there was catastrophic flooding in the area of the Black Sea about 7000 years ago which inundated many coastal cities and towns very rapidly. This has been implicated by some as the flood of Noah.



We've discussed this before, but I don't believe that a "regional flood" takes care of the account in Genesis, both because Genesis is clearly speaking of a universal catastrophe (i.e., one that HAD TO affect all of the peoples outlined in Genesis 10 - a demographic stretching from Persia to Spain, and from the Ukraine to Nubia), and also because Genesis is not speaking of a literal flood at all (although floods may have been literally part of it), but rather of the "waters of chaos" (a common mythic image of pan-Semitic mythology) which are, in the Genesis narrative, first cited in Gen 1:2, then "divided" by the firmament in Genesis 1:6-7 into the "waters above" and the "water below." It is these same "waters above" and "waters below" (that is, not literal water, but the primordial principal of "chaos") which are permitted to flow back into creation (from both "above" AND "below") in Genesis 7:11, thereby destroying the world, which is presented (in Genesis' cosmology) as a kind of "bubble" surrounded by this "watery chaos" above and below. The Flood account is merely saying that God allowed "chaos" to flow back into His Creation and destroy it-that is, some universal (though unspecified) catastrophe nearly wiped mankind out. And, if we look at physical evidence before 15,000 years ago, near the end of the last Ice Age (when mankind mysteriously first appears on this planet), this approach seems to be the reality.
http://www.catholic-legate.com/Apologetics/Sc...
Thinking

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#19 Jul 23, 2013
Ah come on now, that time scale is nowhere close...
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>And, if we look at physical evidence before 15,000 years ago, near the end of the last Ice Age (when mankind mysteriously first appears on this planet)...
Flygerian

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#20 Jul 23, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
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Yes, still there, still no signs of god or heaven.
Besides this, does it really matter the last time?(discounting the fact that people live there now.)
What do you mean no signs of god or heaven? LOL the farthest they have been is the moon lol.

People live where? In space?

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