The " Jesus is God " Christians

The " Jesus is God " Christians

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Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#1 Mar 11, 2013
THE " JESUS IS GOD " CHRISTIANS

Most of these poor souls at one time in their life

believed that Jesus was the Son of God.

Then came along another

Christian false doctrine and

"WAMMO SHAZZAMO"

JESUS TURNED INTO GOD. AND GOD TURNED INTO JESUS

Now they along with all the other deceived are preaching to others that Jesus is

not the Son of God but Is God.

HOW COME THEY NEVER PREACH THAT GOD IS JESUS?

AND YOU ASK THEM IF THIS IS TRUE THEY WILL NOT ANSWER YOU.

SOMETHING DOES NOT ADD UP HERE.

They get this from the WORD MADE FLESH VERSES OF THE BIBLE.

The bible was around since about the 1600's

HOW COME IT TOOK THEM SO LONG TO DISCOVER THAT

JESUS WAS NOT THE SON OF GOD BUT WAS GOD?

So I always ask them this one question to which I rarely get an answer too.

Do you believe that God the creator became God the created?
anon

Januária, Brazil

#2 Mar 18, 2013
Jesus is the Son of God.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#3 Mar 20, 2013
Jesus is God.

John The Word was God. The Word became flesh ...
llllllllllllllll llll

Voronezh, Russia

#4 Mar 24, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
Jesus is God.
John The Word was God. The Word became flesh ...
Can you prove this?

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#5 Mar 27, 2013
llllllllllllllllllll wrote:
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Can you prove this?
Yeah. Read John 1.
anonymous

Taipei, Taiwan

#7 Apr 14, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Yeah. Read John 1.
Retard, how does this make Jesus to be God?

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#8 Apr 18, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Retard, how does this make Jesus to be God?
Well yeah, DUH!

John 1 The Word was God.

“There Is One Truth! Jesus!”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#9 Apr 18, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
THE " JESUS IS GOD " CHRISTIANS
Most of these poor souls at one time in their life
believed that Jesus was the Son of God.
Then came along another
Christian false doctrine and
"WAMMO SHAZZAMO"
JESUS TURNED INTO GOD. AND GOD TURNED INTO JESUS
Now they along with all the other deceived are preaching to others that Jesus is
not the Son of God but Is God.
HOW COME THEY NEVER PREACH THAT GOD IS JESUS?
AND YOU ASK THEM IF THIS IS TRUE THEY WILL NOT ANSWER YOU.
SOMETHING DOES NOT ADD UP HERE.
They get this from the WORD MADE FLESH VERSES OF THE BIBLE.
The bible was around since about the 1600's
HOW COME IT TOOK THEM SO LONG TO DISCOVER THAT
JESUS WAS NOT THE SON OF GOD BUT WAS GOD?
So I always ask them this one question to which I rarely get an answer too.
Do you believe that God the creator became God the created?
Once again,

The Supremacy of the Son of God according to Colossians 1:15-17:

15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

Answer this question:

Since Jesus created everything, including all things seen and unseen, then how is he not "God the creator"?

“There Is One Truth! Jesus!”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#12 Apr 18, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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Who created Jesus?
The Greek for "first created" would be 'proto' with 'ktizo' and it is NOT used in Colossians 1:15. The word "firstborn" can refer to one who is born into a family or it can refer to preeminence. One example is Psalm 89:20, 27 which says, "I have found David My servant; with My holy oil I have anointed him...I also shall make him My 'first-born'" (NASB). Yet, though David is referred to as "first-born", he was actually the last one born in his family. He was simply called first-born by God as a title of preeminence. The same applies to Jesus in Colossians 1:15, as the Greek term for "first created" (meaning, one who is a created being) is "PROTOKTISIS," whereas the Greek word for "firstborn," used in Colossians 1:15 is "PROTOTOKOS." These Greek terms are two entirely different words. In fact, Jews of Jesus' day recognized that "firstborn" can refer to rank, as we can see by Psalm 89:20, 27.

You asked "Who created Jesus" because you believe "firstborn is a reference to Jesus having been created, though the original Greek text uses a word that refers to Jesus' preeminence over all creation because he is the Creator. If you interpret "firstborn" to mean one who was created then it does not fit the context of Colossians 1:15-17 because it would mean the Father only created after Jesus was first created and that the Father does not create. Clearly Colossians states that Jesus is the One who created everything. But then Colossians goes even further when it states that everything was CREATED BY JESUS, FOR JESUS. It does not say that everything was created for the Father. Why? Because Jesus and the Father are One. So it therefore cannot be argued that the Father gave Jesus power to create. If Colossians 1:15-17 is to be believed, then Jesus must be eternal, which is what verse 17 says when it states that Jesus is “before all things.” In other words, nothing is before Jesus. When Jesus was challenged in John 10:22-30 he finished defending himself by saying,“I and the Father are one” which caused his detractors according to verse 31 to pick up stones to try to stone him since they understood that Jesus was claiming to be God.

So Jesus is God, but in his human form he is God’s image. Jesus did not come to earth in his glorified position, instead, he emptied (humbled) himself, and was born a man because he came to fulfill the Law and fulfill prophecy, and to be raised from death and become the one and only eternal sacrifice for all who believe in him.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#14 Apr 18, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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Will you stake your blessings and the blessings your family has from God on what you said is the truth?
A. yes
B. no
I want God to see if you will honor and prove your own words.
Why would it matter?
You're not intelligent enough to distinguish the difference.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#16 Apr 19, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Will you stake your soul on what you said is the truth?
A. yes
B. no
I want God to see if you will honor and prove your own words.
Yes.
You've already verified the answer.

DOH!!
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#18 Apr 19, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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Will you stake your Soul and your life and the blessings your family has from God on everything you have said about me is the truth?
....
What do you think I've said about you?
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#20 Apr 20, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
<quoted text>
Several lies.
Really??
Name two.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#22 Apr 20, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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You name two that weren't.
Liar!
You got Nuthin.
That's what you came with, that's what you leave with...Nuthin.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#24 Apr 20, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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You name two that weren't.
Obfuscation and diversion doesn't work.
YOU LOSE.........DOH!
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#26 Apr 20, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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If this be a lie that you have said about me then I can have all your blessings and all your family's blessings that God has given to you and them that you do not use to bless the name of the Lord.
.
No you don't.
Cisco Kid

Modesto, CA

#27 Apr 20, 2013
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
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The Lord rebuke you.
May The Lord rebuke you.
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#31 Feb 24, 2015
Cisco Kid wrote:
<quoted text>May The Lord rebuke you.
The Lord rebuked you.
Just the Truth

Springfield, MO

#33 Feb 26, 2015
Prophet of Jesus Christ wrote:
HOW COME THEY NEVER PREACH THAT GOD IS JESUS?
AND YOU ASK THEM IF THIS IS TRUE THEY WILL NOT ANSWER YOU.
The reason you don't hear people say "God is Jesus" is because Jesus is a subset of God. You might say a clover leaf is clover, but you wouldn't say clover is a leaf.

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