Should Christians eat pork or shellfish?

dollarsbill

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#27 Jul 25, 2013
The Seven Spirits of God wrote:
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Is dollarsbill Your Brother in Christ And is of The Same Spirit You Are?
Are you anyone's brother in Christ, prophet of PORN?
Tall Guy

Decatur, GA

#30 Jul 25, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
Jesus come to full fill the OT not to do away with it. God made everything on this earth, there is nothing unclean to eat any more thank to Jesus....
Jesus now where in the entire NT said it is okay to eat unclean foods, it is Christianity that has manipulate many verses to suite their needs.

While all foods may be clean, all foods are not meant to be eaten. No one would ever eat a snake, a skunk, or a hippo and say Jesus made this clean, so I can now eat it. If it is toxic, that is why God made it unclean. Pork and shellfish were very toxic to the body back then, but are much less toxic now, but they are still scavengers that eat trash and pass those toxins right to the humans.

dollarsbill

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#31 Jul 25, 2013
"doctrines of demons" "commanding to abstain from foods"

1 Timothy 4:1-5 (NKJV)
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
little lamb

South Yarra, Australia

#32 Jul 25, 2013
Jesus mediates a new covenant..which means a new agreement with God, and in it he declares ' All food clean'

Jesus said " what goes in a mans mouth does not defile him, but what comes out of his mouth.'[ false reasoning's , lies, slander etc ]

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#34 Jul 26, 2013
Disciple wrote:
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The food they are referring to in this chapter is meats sacrificed to idols. Half of the issue with meats in the NT is about meats sacrificed to idols.
If Paul is saying you can eat unclean foods, he is going against the law of God and would have been labeled a false teacher. Jesus and Paul didn't track against each other, they both taught from the Torah and taught the same thing.
You go by one BIG name, but yet you speak like a fool.

Can't you read? Both Peter and Paul are told that we may eat all meats, animals, everything. Then Jesus also tells that we can eat anything we like.

Peter's Vision
ACT 10: 9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
ACT 10: 10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
ACT 10: 11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
ACT 10: 12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
ACT 10: 13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
ACT 10: 14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
ACT 10: 15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
ACT 10: 16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

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Tall Guy

Decatur, GA

#36 Jul 29, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
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You go by one BIG name, but yet you speak like a fool.
Can't you read? Both Peter and Paul are told that we may eat all meats, animals, everything. Then Jesus also tells that we can eat anything we like.
Peter's Vision
ACT 10: 9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
ACT 10: 10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
ACT 10: 11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
ACT 10: 12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
ACT 10: 13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
ACT 10: 14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
ACT 10: 15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
ACT 10: 16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
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You are a typical Christian that reads the bible out of its context and put others down with your own ignorance. Read all of Acts Chapter 10 and you will see Peter's vision is about not referring to gentiles as unclean, the chapter has nothing to do with dietary laws.

READING THE WHOLE CHAPTER IN CONTEXT IS VERY IMPORTANT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

dollarsbill

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#37 Jul 29, 2013
Tall Guy wrote:
the chapter has nothing to do with dietary laws.
Acts 11:7 (NKJV)
7 And I heard a voice saying to me,'Rise, Peter; kill and eat.'
Tall Guy

Decatur, GA

#38 Jul 29, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>Acts 11:7 (NKJV)
7 And I heard a voice saying to me,'Rise, Peter; kill and eat.'
Like I said, read it in its context and the matter is about Peter not referring to gentiles as unclean. Acts 10:17 & Acts 10:28

Acts 10

PETER WONDERING WHAT THE VISION MEANT
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17 While Peter was wondering about the meaning of the vision, the men sent by Cornelius found out where Simon’s house was and stopped at the gate. 18 They called out, asking if Simon who was known as Peter was staying there.

19 While Peter was still thinking about the vision, the Spirit said to him,“Simon, three[a] men are looking for you. 20 So get up and go downstairs. Do not hesitate to go with them, for I have sent them.”

21 Peter went down and said to the men,“I’m the one you’re looking for. Why have you come?”

22 The men replied,“We have come from Cornelius the centurion. He is a righteous and God-fearing man, who is respected by all the Jewish people. A holy angel told him to ask you to come to his house so that he could hear what you have to say.” 23 Then Peter invited the men into the house to be his guests.

Peter at Cornelius’s House

The next day Peter started out with them, and some of the believers from Joppa went along. 24 The following day he arrived in Caesarea. Cornelius was expecting them and had called together his relatives and close friends. 25 As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. 26 But Peter made him get up.“Stand up,” he said,“I am only a man myself.”

27 While talking with him, Peter went inside and found a large gathering of people.

THIS VERSE EXPLAINS IT ALL
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28 He said to them:“You are well aware that it is against our law for a Jew to associate with or visit a Gentile. But God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.

29 So when I was sent for, I came without raising any objection. May I ask why you sent for me?”

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#39 Jul 30, 2013
The gentiles came by the wayside and ate the crumbs from the foods fed to the Jews by Jesus.

Thus we understand that only the key principles of what Jesus is teaching apply to gentiles: read, believe, repent(decide to follow the doctrine), baptize, follow the doctrine faithfully.

Dietary laws and other laws put upon the Jews have not to be followed by Gentiles. If we need not circumcise ( what the Apostles decided amongst themselves )then we need not refrain from foods forbidden to Jews. But even the Jews can eat the foods that were previously forbidden: as Jesus tells then through his Apostles.

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- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
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- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org
Tall Guy

Decatur, GA

#40 Sep 3, 2013
Cliff09 wrote:
The gentiles came by the wayside and ate the crumbs from the foods fed to the Jews by Jesus.
Thus we understand that only the key principles of what Jesus is teaching apply to gentiles: read, believe, repent(decide to follow the doctrine), baptize, follow the doctrine faithfully.
Dietary laws and other laws put upon the Jews have not to be followed by Gentiles. If we need not circumcise ( what the Apostles decided amongst themselves )then we need not refrain from foods forbidden to Jews. But even the Jews can eat the foods that were previously forbidden: as Jesus tells then through his Apostles.
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- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.
Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...
- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
- Protect the Children from Satan in the Churches: http://www.silentlambs.org
Maaaaaaaan you clearly dont understand the bible and each post you make shows it.

dollarsbill

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#41 Sep 21, 2013
Tall Guy wrote:
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Like I said, read it in its context and the matter is about Peter not referring to gentiles as unclean.
I did. Gentiles and food are not unclean. Dietary restrictions are "doctrines of DEMONS".
Tall Guy

Decatur, GA

#42 Sep 21, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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I did. Gentiles and food are not unclean. Dietary restrictions are "doctrines of DEMONS".
Well you are calling the doctrine of God, Jesus, Paul and the apostles doctrines of demons then, because They all taught from the only thing they had back then which was the TOrah.

dollarsbill

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#44 Sep 22, 2013
Tall Guy wrote:
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Well you are calling the doctrine of God, Jesus, Paul and the apostles doctrines of demons then, because They all taught from the only thing they had back then which was the TOrah.
NEW Covenant, not renewed.

“theholychristian church.com”

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#45 Nov 20, 2013
The doctrine is as it was preached to us by jesus.

Christians may eat all foods:
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/foods-c...

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#46 Nov 21, 2013
Disciple wrote:
The bible says it is unclean and not to be eaten, yet Christians eat it all day everyday.
Jesus never ate unclean foods, Paul didn't and none of the disciples did either and no where in the New Testament does it show them teaching others to do likewise.
Every verse Christians use to justify eating unclean foods are used way out of its real meaning.
Acts 10
Acts 15
Romans 14
Matthew 15
Mark 7
Colossians 2
1Tim 4:4
If you want to eat pork,,shrimp, lobster, crab, and catfish, go right ahead and enjoy, but please stop using the bible out of its context to justify your behavior.
Christians should be Vegetarian, living as if we are already in the Garden, well, also working to make this planet a Garden.

Monsanto is an Evil Corporation.

Seriously Monsanto is one of the most Evil Corporation upon the Earth.

I say Evil as in actively working for the Devil.
Tall Guy

Norcross, GA

#47 Nov 21, 2013
the perfect idiot wrote:
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Christians should be Vegetarian, living as if we are already in the Garden, well, also working to make this planet a Garden.
Monsanto is an Evil Corporation.
Seriously Monsanto is one of the most Evil Corporation upon the Earth.
I say Evil as in actively working for the Devil.
i dont think any real food l even exist in 10 yrs at the rate they are going
Old GT

Carmel, IN

#48 Nov 21, 2013
Read Acts 15:24-29. The Apostles are dealing with your very question. Read verses 28 & 29. The only restrictions are idol meats (you've already answered why), blood and things strangled

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#49 Nov 21, 2013
Yes.

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#50 Nov 21, 2013
Abstaining from pork and shellfish are Jewish Law.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#51 Nov 22, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
Should Christians eat pork or shellfish?
Why not?
You are a biblical IGNORAMUS. God said certain foods are not to be eaten, and I'm not talking about apples. You obviously have never read the Torah.(five books of Moses) You're probably one of those Christians who only read the NT. So that's what your problem is, you're just incredibly IGNORANT.

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