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All Who Deny Jesus/God Will Burn in the Eternal Hell Fire

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dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#1 Feb 1, 2014
John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh ...

Col 1 By Him all things were created.

I GIVE THEM ETERNAL LIFE

John 10:28 (NKJV)
28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand.

WHO IS IN HEAVEN

John 3:13 (NKJV)
13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.

MY COMMANDMENTS

John 14:15 (NKJV)
15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.

John 15:10 (NKJV)
10 If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love,

John 14:21 (NKJV)
21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me.

Matthew 18:20 (NKJV)
20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."

FROM EVERLASTING

Micah 5:2 (NKJV)
2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Though you are little among the thousands of Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth are from of old, From everlasting."

EVERLASTING FIRE

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand,'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#2 Feb 1, 2014
The Bible Jesus didn't exist and your god is a "demented pretender who works against humanity as the leader of the Archons," which have been variously described as soulless beings or astral-mental parasites that "exaggerate human error and intrude upon humanity by psychic stealth in order to propagate the ideological virus of redemptive religion."

Since: Dec 09

Chicago, IL

#3 Feb 1, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
The Bible Jesus didn't exist and your god is a "demented pretender who works against humanity as the leader of the Archons," which have been variously described as soulless beings or astral-mental parasites that "exaggerate human error and intrude upon humanity by psychic stealth in order to propagate the ideological virus of redemptive religion."
Please cite the sources of quoted excerpts.

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#4 Feb 1, 2014
janeebee wrote:
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Please cite the sources of quoted excerpts.
From memory of what the Gnostics taught. Sorry I didn't know I had to quote my memory.lol!
Flygerian

Dallas, TX

#5 Feb 1, 2014
Nothing of the OT. Jesus quoted from it why dont you? lol. Its like that side of the bible doesnt even exist with you

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#6 Feb 1, 2014
Flygerian wrote:
Nothing of the OT. Jesus quoted from it why dont you? lol. Its like that side of the bible doesnt even exist with you
In actuallity the Elite family who wrote the New Testament had the Old Testament books in hand when they were writing the New Testament. They had to have it flow together for they're new religion.
LGK

Llanfechain, UK

#7 Feb 1, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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In actuallity the Elite family who wrote the New Testament had the Old Testament books in hand when they were writing the New Testament. They had to have it flow together for they're new religion.
The discipline or science of "undesigned coincidences" all but proves that the New Testament was written by eye-witnesses. Undesigned coincidence is well established & used in forensics. Here's a quick illustration of the method:

3 students were late for an exam & asked for extra-time. They claimed they had a flat tyre hence got delayed. The invigilator said he'd give them the time on condition they pass one test 1st. He isolated them into 3 separate rooms & asked them each one question. Which tyre was it?

The same principle test of honesty can be applied to the Gospels & they'll either pass or fail. I'll show you in the next post how they pass.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#8 Feb 1, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
The Bible Jesus didn't exist and your god is a "demented pretender who works against humanity as the leader of the Archons," which have been variously described as soulless beings or astral-mental parasites that "exaggerate human error and intrude upon humanity by psychic stealth in order to propagate the ideological virus of redemptive religion."
Another psycho.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#9 Feb 1, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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From memory of what the Gnostics taught. Sorry I didn't know I had to quote my memory.lol!
Perfect response! Exactly the same response we all get from Believers...! Their memory of what they've been taught!(usually not very well!)
LGK

Llanfechain, UK

#10 Feb 1, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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From memory of what the Gnostics taught. Sorry I didn't know I had to quote my memory.lol!
May I please ask by what criteria you hold Gnostics to be more reliable than the New Testament?
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#11 Feb 1, 2014
LGK wrote:
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The discipline or science of "undesigned coincidences" all but proves that the New Testament was written by eye-witnesses. Undesigned coincidence is well established & used in forensics. Here's a quick illustration of the method:
3 students were late for an exam & asked for extra-time. They claimed they had a flat tyre hence got delayed. The invigilator said he'd give them the time on condition they pass one test 1st. He isolated them into 3 separate rooms & asked them each one question. Which tyre was it?
The same principle test of honesty can be applied to the Gospels & they'll either pass or fail. I'll show you in the next post how they pass.
No they dont! Without any true originals - these later texts are just hearsay written by unknown authors, cobbling together stories from other sources that are are also unknowns!

That the Bible's you all hold in your hands today tell moderately coherent stories is the work of centuries of trying to hold the story together. The Theme and Story you modern Xtians tell each other and the world in no way matches the ones being told on the ground in 1CE. Because there was great disagreement among the burgeoning sects, and that primarily ONE sect won the battles, and got to tell their story - and then enforce it thru all sorts of villainous means - over all others in no way means its the exact and right and most certainly not the complete story!

What some would call coherency (in the stories) is nothing but an historical artifact of the Organizational efforts and political power brokering of what you Protys all call the Great Satan!
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#12 Feb 1, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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In actuallity the Elite family who wrote the New Testament had the Old Testament books in hand when they were writing the New Testament. They had to have it flow together for they're new religion.
THe OT became so important to the early Xtians because they needed to link themselves to something older than them. Rome, Romans held old beliefs in higher regards than upstart, socially upsetting cults - like the first Xtians - and while they conquered the Jews, the Romans tolerated their religion due to its age! Xtians were viewed as trouble, and it was all due to this new cult of rebellious Jews, creating a new Religion from the ethers! So it was pragmatic that the early Xtians stole the Jewish texts and made them suit their agendas. Once that link was established they had more credibility and once the Temple fell and the Jews scattered and these New Jews/Xtians began to proliferate, and make social and economic inroads...its the snow ball rolling down hill...
LGK

Llanfechain, UK

#13 Feb 1, 2014
Punisher wrote:
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No they dont! Without any true originals - these later texts are just hearsay written by unknown authors, cobbling together stories from other sources that are are also unknowns!
That the Bible's you all hold in your hands today tell moderately coherent stories is the work of centuries of trying to hold the story together. The Theme and Story you modern Xtians tell each other and the world in no way matches the ones being told on the ground in 1CE. Because there was great disagreement among the burgeoning sects, and that primarily ONE sect won the battles, and got to tell their story - and then enforce it thru all sorts of villainous means - over all others in no way means its the exact and right and most certainly not the complete story!
What some would call coherency (in the stories) is nothing but an historical artifact of the Organizational efforts and political power brokering of what you Protys all call the Great Satan!
Exactly what are these stories "told on the ground in 1 'CE'" so they can be compared to the New Testament? Please give sources, it's all very well to say "stories told on the ground," anyone can say that.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#14 Feb 1, 2014
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>THe OT became so important to the early Xtians because they needed to link themselves to something older than them. Rome, Romans held old beliefs in higher regards than upstart, socially upsetting cults - like the first Xtians - and while they conquered the Jews, the Romans tolerated their religion due to its age! Xtians were viewed as trouble, and it was all due to this new cult of rebellious Jews, creating a new Religion from the ethers! So it was pragmatic that the early Xtians stole the Jewish texts and made them suit their agendas. Once that link was established they had more credibility and once the Temple fell and the Jews scattered and these New Jews/Xtians began to proliferate, and make social and economic inroads...its the snow ball rolling down hill...
The reason you are a LIAR:

YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL

HE IS A LIAR

John 8:44 (NKJV)
44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#15 Feb 1, 2014
LGK wrote:
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May I please ask by what criteria you hold Gnostics to be more reliable than the New Testament?
Early Xtians, those closer to the events relied on them...and it was the Great Satan RCC that ignored them! If the RCC says they are no good, then there must be something to them...!
Old GT

Carmel, IN

#16 Feb 1, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>The reason you are a LIAR:
YOU ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL
HE IS A LIAR
John 8:44 (NKJV)
44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
Lighten up $bill.
Your approach is not working.
Try focusing on the salvation, rescue aspect of the Good News.
The naysayers are dragging you down.
You've got the light. Darkness flees from the light.
Old GT

Carmel, IN

#17 Feb 1, 2014
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Early Xtians, those closer to the events relied on them...and it was the Great Satan RCC that ignored them! If the RCC says they are no good, then there must be something to them...!
Those closer to the events warned against the gnostic.
Just wondering, do you think that you are being demeaning or insulting by using the "Xtians"?
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#18 Feb 1, 2014
LGK wrote:
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Exactly what are these stories "told on the ground in 1 'CE'" so they can be compared to the New Testament? Please give sources, it's all very well to say "stories told on the ground," anyone can say that.
Jesus was not the God, a God, the Jewish God and equal to the Father.(a debate that waged for a few hundred more years, till an Emperor stepped in with a law)

BTW the NT didnt exist in 1CE! So whatever point you're gonna try to force and retro fit cant use the NT!! There was no text book for 1CE Xtians/Jews. Other than the Jewish texts, of which there was no One and Only canon.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#19 Feb 1, 2014
Old GT wrote:
<quoted text> Those closer to the events warned against the gnostic.
Just wondering, do you think that you are being demeaning or insulting by using the "Xtians"?
"demeaning or insulting" - kinda the same thing, no?

I use the X as it has a long history and was in fact used by Christians and in no way was ever an insult to them...! Its shorthand...and since we have no Chi-Rho key on the keyboard...I use the X...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho#Computer...

Why am I always teaching Xtians the history of their Religion?
And why are you all so thin-skinned?(Clearly faith doesnt form armor around you as claimed.)
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#20 Feb 1, 2014
Old GT wrote:
<quoted text> Those closer to the events warned against the gnostic.
Just wondering, do you think that you are being demeaning or insulting by using the "Xtians"?
Some but not all. Let me repeat, not all early 1CE till around 380 CE Xtians dismissed the gnostic POV. Many died defending it! At the hands of the Triune cabal...

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