Wayne

United States

#21 Mar 5, 2008
Med wrote:
<quoted text>Was Mohammed born in Bethlehem? Was Mohammed a Jewish rabbi? Was Mohammed declared to be Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace? Would Isaiah call a non Jew Messiah? Was Mohammed tortured beyond recognition, before he was crucified,[hung on a tree]? Just for starters. Isaiah prophesies of a 'Jewish Messiah from the bloodline of King David, from the tribe of Judah. So much for Mohammed. Lets stick with the subject at hand, if possible.
I'm with you 110% on this one Med.
Med

United States

#22 Mar 5, 2008
LET THE WORLD HEAR WHO 4PILLARS YHWH IS. OR IS IT THAT IT GOT THROWN OUT IN THE DIRTY LAUNDRY ALSO IN THE GENESIS 1 AND 2 FORUM. WHAT IS YOUR YHWH, PAL. COME ON. TELL US AND KEEP YOUR DIATRIBE TO THE OTHER FORUM.
aesthetic

United States

#23 Mar 5, 2008
Med wrote:
<quoted text>Was Mohammed born in Bethlehem? Was Mohammed a Jewish rabbi? Was Mohammed declared to be Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace? Would Isaiah call a non Jew Messiah? Was Mohammed tortured beyond recognition, before he was crucified,[hung on a tree]? Just for starters. Isaiah prophesies of a 'Jewish Messiah from the bloodline of King David, from the tribe of Judah. So much for Mohammed. Lets stick with the subject at hand, if possible.
What is the significance of Jesus being "anointed"(Messiah)?
Med

United States

#24 Mar 5, 2008
aesthetic wrote:
<quoted text>What is the significance of Jesus being "anointed"(Messiah)?
Already answered that in Genesis 1 and 2, less than 1 hr ago.
Med

United States

#25 Mar 7, 2008
Well, it looks like no one wants to touch this one. Well, I'll touch it for all of you, once and for all. The answer to post # 1 is 'YES', I'LL REFUTE IT. This YHWH, is pure fantasy, as I stated in another forum; the consonant form of God's Name is a lie and fraud. Josephus, himself testifies that the ancient Name of God was instituted in 4 vowels, not consonants. This is also verified, per Josephus, that ancient historians familiar with Zerrubbabel and others, saw with their own eyes these 4 vowels. Now, modern day theologians and professors are baffled by this, because they are bound and determined to show that their trinity godhead, with Yahweh and Jehovah as the Father are valid, as I have ripped apart in other dissertations. Josphus is the expert, not these modern day impostors. Josephus saw the ancient 4 vowels in the ancient Paleo-Hebrew script, which translated is IEUE, which any language comparison chart will prove, not IAUE, which the Yahwists and Jehovists try to pan off as accurate, but the language equivelants show different. The YHWH DOESN'T EVEN MATCH UP, WITH THE VOWELS, 'MATRES LECTIONIS' OR NOT. This YHWH is Squared off Aramaic, of which modern day Hebrew is virtually a dead on match, not Paleo-Hebrew, which is very closely associated with the ancient Greek. This Aramaic fashioning of Israels' present day Hebrew attests to the fact that they continue on in the rituals and fashions of their reprobate fathers. This YHWH is hooked in very strongly with Babylonian and EGYPTIAN MYSTICISM RITES, WHICH WERE CARRIED OVER FROM THESE REPROBATES, CALLED CABALLAH, FROM THE BABYLONIAN CAPTIVITY WHERE THEY LEARNED IT TO ITS PUREST FORM OF EVIL, WHICH IS NOTHING MORE THAN PURE WITCHCRAFT. This YHWH is listed in the Babylonian Tarot Cards of the occult, for starters, as I've presented in earlier forums. The Caballist Sephiroth pantheon is the 'SMOKING GUN' of their witchcraft. The old testament prophets talk about these rebels worshipping the Egyptian 'moon/sky god-Jahshua, JAH', blaspheming the Name of God Almighty JEH, Jehoshua, Jesus. Jeh and Jehoshua are nothing more than the extant precursors of the final, all inclusive Name of Jesus, of which the Root Hebrew translates as Yehsha, which means Salvation. The Name of Jesus Is listed in the Ancient Greek Septuagent, as IESOUS, where the King James Version lists it as Joshua, of which 'Jo' is the Grecianized form of 'JEH' OR 'YEH'. Joshua is the apocopated form of Jehoshea, of which Jehoshua is the Grecianized form. These Names are directly linked to Moses and the renaming of Hoshea, who is Joshua, with the prefix of his God 'JEH' to get Jehoshea or Jehoshua. more to come.
Med

United States

#26 Mar 7, 2008
Yeshua is a hybrid name and correctly should be spelled 'YEHSHUA', but either way it is NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES 'YAH', WHICH AUTOMATICALLY REVERTS BACK TO EGYPTIAN RELIGIOUS RITES WITH THE SOLE USE OF THE 'A' IN 'JAH'. The Name of Jesus in English means 'Salvation' in Hebrew.' [Yehsha or Yesha]. These false God Names with JAH, instead of JEH, are false god counterfeits, with their 'roots' in Egyptian mysticism, as the Egyptian god 'Jah'. Why, the very linguistic rules of etymology disallow the use of 'JAH' as a PREFIX, JUST FOR STARTERS. THE MODERN HEBREW IS AN INVENTED LANGUAGE WITH ARAMAIC ROOTS. IT'S NOT PALEO-HEBREW, BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. ANCIENT PALEO-HEBREW AND ARAMAIC ARE TWO DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, FOR STARTERS. The myth names of 'YAHWEH AND JEHOVAH' are pure fantasy 16th century inventions whose roots are in ancient mysticism with the root roems'ahveh/ahvah and hovah, which are evil in meaning, [depravity, destruction and disaster]. You think I jest, look them up for yourself. Which, brings us to a very demanding question. What did Jesus call Himself by Name, when He walked the earth for 331/2 years. The scriptures tell. It's not any of His pre-cursor Names, of which is very presence fullfills them. He called Himself Jehshas, [Jesus], not Yeshua, not Jehoshua, etc. which are His precursors now fulfilled as salvation. That's why, when He comes back to earth at His second coming His Name is Jehshas, [Jesus]. What am I saying concerning this Name. Anyone referring to God the Father, by any other Name other than Jesus is on a fast track to Hell. It's the exact same methodology concerning the old testament rituals and rites, which were 'A TYPE OF THE ACTUAL TO COME AT FULFILMENT', AS IS THE SAME WITH HIS REVEALING OF HIS TOTAL AND FINAL ESCHATOLOGY OF HIS NAME. JESUS CHRIST IS THE ANOINTED MESSIAH/FATHER GOD OF SALVATION OF ALL TIME. more to come.

Since: Dec 07

Branson, MO

#27 Mar 8, 2008
Med wrote:
Yeshua is a hybrid name and correctly should be spelled 'YEHSHUA', but either way it is NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES 'YAH', WHICH AUTOMATICALLY REVERTS BACK TO EGYPTIAN RELIGIOUS RITES WITH THE SOLE USE OF THE 'A' IN 'JAH'. The Name of Jesus in English means 'Salvation' in Hebrew.'[Yehsha or Yesha]. These false God Names with JAH, instead of JEH, are false god counterfeits, with their 'roots' in Egyptian mysticism, as the Egyptian god 'Jah'. Why, the very linguistic rules of etymology disallow the use of 'JAH' as a PREFIX, JUST FOR STARTERS. THE MODERN HEBREW IS AN INVENTED LANGUAGE WITH ARAMAIC ROOTS. IT'S NOT PALEO-HEBREW, BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION. ANCIENT PALEO-HEBREW AND ARAMAIC ARE TWO DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, FOR STARTERS. The myth names of 'YAHWEH AND JEHOVAH' are pure fantasy 16th century inventions whose roots are in ancient mysticism with the root roems'ahveh/ahvah and hovah, which are evil in meaning,[depravity, destruction and disaster]. You think I jest, look them up for yourself. Which, brings us to a very demanding question. What did Jesus call Himself by Name, when He walked the earth for 331/2 years. The scriptures tell. It's not any of His pre-cursor Names, of which is very presence fullfills them. He called Himself Jehshas,[Jesus], not Yeshua, not Jehoshua, etc. which are His precursors now fulfilled as salvation. That's why, when He comes back to earth at His second coming His Name is Jehshas,[Jesus]. What am I saying concerning this Name. Anyone referring to God the Father, by any other Name other than Jesus is on a fast track to Hell. It's the exact same methodology concerning the old testament rituals and rites, which were 'A TYPE OF THE ACTUAL TO COME AT FULFILMENT', AS IS THE SAME WITH HIS REVEALING OF HIS TOTAL AND FINAL ESCHATOLOGY OF HIS NAME. JESUS CHRIST IS THE ANOINTED MESSIAH/FATHER GOD OF SALVATION OF ALL TIME. more to come.
And a member of the Trinity.
Med

United States

#28 Mar 8, 2008
Working on it wrote:
<quoted text>
And a member of the Trinity.
NOT IN YOUR WILDEST IMAGINATION.

Since: Dec 07

Hollister, MO

#29 Mar 9, 2008
Med wrote:
<quoted text>NOT IN YOUR WILDEST IMAGINATION.
As surely as Jesus is God, and the Spirit lives in all Christians, The Father exists as a separate member of the Godhead, along with His Son and His Spirit. There is no other reality except heresy.
Med

United States

#30 Mar 9, 2008
Working on it wrote:
<quoted text>
As surely as Jesus is God, and the Spirit lives in all Christians, The Father exists as a separate member of the Godhead, along with His Son and His Spirit. There is no other reality except heresy.
One for the money. Two for the show. THREE TO GET READY FOR HELL YOU SHALL GO. THAT'S FOR YOU AND YOUR TRINITY GOD RIGHT WITH YOU.

Since: Dec 07

Forsyth, MO

#31 Mar 9, 2008
Med wrote:
<quoted text>DEVIOUS, HOW ABOUT FACT AND TRUTH. DO YOU HAVE A CHALLENGE, PRESENT IT, SO I CAN HAVE A FIELD DAY.
The bible is so clear on the issue that the Father and Son are two individual persons, that it is not worth the time to dispute it. The apostles certify it in their writings. Maybe a field day would help you clean up your act.
Med

United States

#32 Mar 9, 2008
Working on it wrote:
<quoted text>
The bible is so clear on the issue that the Father and Son are two individual persons, that it is not worth the time to dispute it. The apostles certify it in their writings. Maybe a field day would help you clean up your act.
The bible is so corrupted with trinitarian insertions, that it is worth the time to dispute it. I already worked you and your hellbound doctrine over in the Assemblies of God Forum. I issued ayou a challenge and you ran home to your trinity godhead. Don't talk me to death. Show some scholarship in the matter, instead of mouthing off.

Since: Dec 07

Forsyth, MO

#33 Mar 9, 2008
Med wrote:
<quoted text>The bible is so corrupted with trinitarian insertions, that it is worth the time to dispute it. I already worked you and your hellbound doctrine over in the Assemblies of God Forum. I issued ayou a challenge and you ran home to your trinity godhead. Don't talk me to death. Show some scholarship in the matter, instead of mouthing off.
As I recall, I asked you a question in the AOG forum and you refused to answer rationally, but began a diatribe of your superiority and intellectual qualifications. Which you are repeating here. You already know that I believe bible inspiration is infallible, and you believe otherwise, so we have no basis for a reasonable discussion. If I post scriptural statements of the Father/Son/Spirit relationship, you won't accept them, rather you pursue either flawed historical references (shem tov) or phonetic relationships that make little sense and have less relavency.

Sorry if I'm not your intellectual equal, but I at least can recognize the truth. It takes faith, rather than man's knowledge to find salvation.
Med

United States

#34 Mar 10, 2008
Working on it wrote:
<quoted text>
As I recall, I asked you a question in the AOG forum and you refused to answer rationally, but began a diatribe of your superiority and intellectual qualifications. Which you are repeating here. You already know that I believe bible inspiration is infallible, and you believe otherwise, so we have no basis for a reasonable discussion. If I post scriptural statements of the Father/Son/Spirit relationship, you won't accept them, rather you pursue either flawed historical references (shem tov) or phonetic relationships that make little sense and have less relavency.
Sorry if I'm not your intellectual equal, but I at least can recognize the truth. It takes faith, rather than man's knowledge to find salvation.
As I recall you were the one diatribing, of which the result was mockery and ridecule from myself. So lets get to it then. What's the Name of your Father of which you avoided in the AOG forum, because I will make short work of your myth. Lets have it. What's the Name of your Father/God? Don't mouth off to avoid it. State the facts. But, personally, I think you'll avoid it, as you did in the AOG forum, because you know where it's going. In the myth column with Poseidon. Tell us the Name of your Father. Don't be ashamed of your God. Stand up for Him. Show everyone that you're not a coward and that you will fight for your god. Don't mouth off, DO IT.

Since: Dec 07

United States

#35 Mar 10, 2008
I respond with my last post:

"phonetic relationships that make little sense and have less relavency."

Let's instead discuss the biblical references that describe the relationship of Jesus and Father, which in the description, establish that the two are unique personalities.

Let's investigate the limitations that incarnate Jesus placed upon himself, that indicate his uniqueness from God during the time he inhabited a mortal body.

Let's discuss the different relationships that the Father and Jesus (and the spirit) have among themselves and with mankind, as priest, creator, judge, savior, etc.

But if you insist on pursuing the historical and/or phonetic smokescreen or to dispute scriptural accuracy with such assertions, Sorry, I'll not participate, because it neither interests me or illuminates the Trinity reality.

I will tell you that I consider your methods devious, since you proclaim a disagreement with the authority of the baptism, to disguise your assertions regarding the fallibility of the Trinity. You do not walk the high ground of honesty, nor are you polite in asserting your beliefs. So I am hesitant to assume that even in the discussions stated above would you be forthright.

Med

United States

#36 Mar 10, 2008
Working on it wrote:
I respond with my last post:
"phonetic relationships that make little sense and have less relavency."
Let's instead discuss the biblical references that describe the relationship of Jesus and Father, which in the description, establish that the two are unique personalities.
Let's investigate the limitations that incarnate Jesus placed upon himself, that indicate his uniqueness from God during the time he inhabited a mortal body.
Let's discuss the different relationships that the Father and Jesus (and the spirit) have among themselves and with mankind, as priest, creator, judge, savior, etc.
But if you insist on pursuing the historical and/or phonetic smokescreen or to dispute scriptural accuracy with such assertions, Sorry, I'll not participate, because it neither interests me or illuminates the Trinity reality.
I will tell you that I consider your methods devious, since you proclaim a disagreement with the authority of the baptism, to disguise your assertions regarding the fallibility of the Trinity. You do not walk the high ground of honesty, nor are you polite in asserting your beliefs. So I am hesitant to assume that even in the discussions stated above would you be forthright.
Your trinity scriptures are corrupted insertions, in particular between 325 A.D. 409 A.D. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THIS.'AND JESUS BREATHED ON THEM AND SAID RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT'. JESUS OWN BREATH. YOU WANT TO PLAY GAMES, LETS PLAY.
Med

United States

#37 Mar 10, 2008
YOUR TRINITY DOCTRINE IS STRAIGHT OUT OF NIMROD. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH HISTORY STATING THAT THE GROSS, VAST MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS IN THE FIRST 3 CENTURIES A.D. WERE BAPTISED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST AND THE TRINITY HIERARCHY WERE ALARMED AND BOTHERED BY THESE GREAT NUMBERS OF ONENESS SAINTS STILL AROUND? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH MATTHEW 28:19 TRINITY BAPTISM, NOT EVEN LISTED IN THE MOST EXTANT DOCUMENTS? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH EUSEBIUS, STATING THAT MATTHEW 28:19, WAS IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, NOT THIS TRINITY INSERTION? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THE TETRAGRAMMATON [FATHER'S NAME]=JESUS, ONLY. JUST IGNORE THE FACTS. JUST FOR STARTERS.

Since: Dec 07

United States

#38 Mar 10, 2008
The bible assertions are inspired by God, regardles of the taint you attempt to apply to the canon.

Incarnate Jesus performed all of his miracles through the power of the Spirit that indwelled within him. Even though he, himself, was God, during his earthly time, he set aside his divine perogatives to utilize the force available to all believers, that of the indwelling Spirit, the third member of the Trinity.

Actually, I'm more interested in the truth than your games. The tool of devil is to discredit the scripture, with half-truths as Satan attempted when he tempted Jesus in the wilderness. Jesus answer was the truth of scripture, which stands against all heresies
Med

United States

#39 Mar 10, 2008
Working on it wrote:
I respond with my last post:
"phonetic relationships that make little sense and have less relavency."
Let's instead discuss the biblical references that describe the relationship of Jesus and Father, which in the description, establish that the two are unique personalities.
Let's investigate the limitations that incarnate Jesus placed upon himself, that indicate his uniqueness from God during the time he inhabited a mortal body.
Let's discuss the different relationships that the Father and Jesus (and the spirit) have among themselves and with mankind, as priest, creator, judge, savior, etc.
But if you insist on pursuing the historical and/or phonetic smokescreen or to dispute scriptural accuracy with such assertions, Sorry, I'll not participate, because it neither interests me or illuminates the Trinity reality.
I will tell you that I consider your methods devious, since you proclaim a disagreement with the authority of the baptism, to disguise your assertions regarding the fallibility of the Trinity. You do not walk the high ground of honesty, nor are you polite in asserting your beliefs. So I am hesitant to assume that even in the discussions stated above would you be forthright.
The Bible is loaded with corruptions and mistranslations and out right insertions, as history proves, without a shadow of doubt. It has been retranslated over 2500 x's. YOUR BIBLE IS CORRUPTED, OF WHICH YOU REFUSE TO ADMIT AND THAT IS YOUR HANGUP. eEveryone with any sense at all knows this, from professor theologians to regular laymen. IT IS CORRUPTED AND THAT IS A HISTORICAL FACT THAT NEITHER YOU NOR ANYONE IN THE WORLD CAN REFUTE.

Since: Dec 07

United States

#40 Mar 10, 2008
Med wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible is loaded with corruptions and mistranslations and out right insertions, as history proves, without a shadow of doubt. It has been retranslated over 2500 x's. YOUR BIBLE IS CORRUPTED, OF WHICH YOU REFUSE TO ADMIT AND THAT IS YOUR HANGUP. eEveryone with any sense at all knows this, from professor theologians to regular laymen. IT IS CORRUPTED AND THAT IS A HISTORICAL FACT THAT NEITHER YOU NOR ANYONE IN THE WORLD CAN REFUTE.
I reject your assertions, and once again you refuse to particpate with ethics. I'm not going with you down your rathole, so I'm done.

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