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Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#144 Sep 11, 2012
Vote Obama wrote:
<quoted text>It has been taught in the eastern religions that what Jesus meant when he said you must be born again, is reincarnation. In other words, if you don't get it right in your first life, you must keep coming back like a beer can that gets recycled over and over again. Supposedly, our planet is the setting of a huge gigantic school and as you are recycled over and over, you learn more about the Creator.
No, that is entirely different...Easter religions don't teach Christianity, they have philosophies which far surpass any Western religion.

Reincarnation WAS included in a book in the Bible the Catholics removed....how you gonna control people if they think they are coming back?

Born again was said to a Jewish Pharisee and referred to how hard he would have to turn his life around to understand where Jesus was coming.

http://www.powerattunements.com/article42.htm...

Scriptures from the King James Version of the Bible which hint at Reincarnation. Reincarnation was taught in the Roman Catholic Church until 553 A.D. when it was voted out (3-2) at the Council of Constantinople.

Gen 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.(Reincarnation referred to here)

Deu 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.(Karma)

Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.

Job 4:8 Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same.(Karma)

Job 8 (Reincarnation in Chapter 8)

Psa 7 (Karma chapter)

Psa 7:15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made.(Karma)

Psa 7:16 His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate.(Karma)

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Hinduism came before Buddhism and Buddhism precedes Christianity by over 600 years.

John Chapter 3

1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Vote Obama

Long Beach, CA

#145 Sep 12, 2012
Native from Pa wrote:
A born again CHRISTIAN does not support perversion or abortion. Supporting equal rights is saying God and HIS WORD do not matter.
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Of all the tyrannies that afflict mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst!
~Thomas Paine
Vote Obama

Long Beach, CA

#146 Sep 12, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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No, that is entirely different...Easter religions don't teach Christianity, they have philosophies which far surpass any Western religion.
Reincarnation WAS included in a book in the Bible the Catholics removed....how you gonna control people if they think they are coming back?
Born again was said to a Jewish Pharisee and referred to how hard he would have to turn his life around to understand where Jesus was coming.
http://www.powerattunements.com/article42.htm...
Scriptures from the King James Version of the Bible which hint at Reincarnation. Reincarnation was taught in the Roman Catholic Church until 553 A.D. when it was voted out (3-2) at the Council of Constantinople.
Gen 9:6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.(Reincarnation referred to here)
Deu 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.(Karma)
Job 1:1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
Job 4:8 Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same.(Karma)
Job 8 (Reincarnation in Chapter 8)
Psa 7 (Karma chapter)
Psa 7:15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made.(Karma)
Psa 7:16 His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate.(Karma)
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Hinduism came before Buddhism and Buddhism precedes Christianity by over 600 years.
John Chapter 3
1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
There is a website called "The Gospel of The Holy Twelve." I don't have a link to it but you can google: gospel of the holy twelve. I believe it refers to Jesus' real early teachings and there's a ton of info there.

Since: Jul 10

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#147 Sep 12, 2012
Hi Vote Obama

The gospels of Matthewm, Mark, Luke and John refer to Jesus' real early teachings and there's a ton of info there. The reason these books were chosen as the gospels of the new testament canon was because these were the ones that were used by the very earliest Christians and were read out in the very first churches from the beginnings of Christianity. Pilgrim

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#148 Sep 12, 2012
Vote Obama wrote:
<quoted text>There is a website called "The Gospel of The Holy Twelve." I don't have a link to it but you can google: gospel of the holy twelve. I believe it refers to Jesus' real early teachings and there's a ton of info there.
Thanks...

http://essenes.net/index.php...

It's a born again site that put this up and they call themselves the Buddhist branch of the Original Christianity...Christianity was created by Paul over 600 years after Buddhism...this is the fallacy of the right wing nuts to try to claim that Buddhism is part of Christianity...kinda like their claim that Christ hates gays and doesn't approve of abortion.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#149 Sep 12, 2012
Pilgrim_ wrote:
Hi Vote Obama
The gospels of Matthewm, Mark, Luke and John refer to Jesus' real early teachings and there's a ton of info there. The reason these books were chosen as the gospels of the new testament canon was because these were the ones that were used by the very earliest Christians and were read out in the very first churches from the beginnings of Christianity. Pilgrim
Only preachers or priests were allowed to read...especially the books.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bart-d-ehrman/t...

Apart from the most rabid fundamentalists among us, nearly everyone admits that the Bible might contain errors -- a faulty creation story here, a historical mistake there, a contradiction or two in some other place. But is it possible that the problem is worse than that -- that the Bible actually contains lies?

Most people wouldn't put it that way, since the Bible is, after all, sacred Scripture for millions on our planet. But good Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that the Bible is full of lies, even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth: Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle -- Peter, Paul or James -- knowing full well they were someone else. In modern parlance, that is a lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity is a forgery.

Most modern scholars of the Bible shy away from these terms, and for understandable reasons, some having to do with their clientele. Teaching in Christian seminaries, or to largely Christian undergraduate populations, who wants to denigrate the cherished texts of Scripture by calling them forgeries built on lies? And so scholars use a different term for this phenomenon and call such books "pseudepigrapha."

You will find this antiseptic term throughout the writings of modern scholars of the Bible. It's the term used in university classes on the New Testament, and in seminary courses, and in Ph.D. seminars. What the people who use the term do not tell you is that it literally means "writing that is inscribed with a lie."

And that's what such writings are. Whoever wrote the New Testament book of 2 Peter claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere -- except for our friends among the fundamentalists -- will tell you that there is no way on God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else wrote it claiming to be Peter. Scholars may also tell you that it was an acceptable practice in the ancient world for someone to write a book in the name of someone else. But that is where they are wrong. If you look at what ancient people actually said about the practice, you'll see that they invariably called it lying and condemned it as a deceitful practice, even in Christian circles. 2 Peter was finally accepted into the New Testament because the church fathers, centuries later, were convinced that Peter wrote it. But he didn't. Someone else did. And that someone else lied about his identity.

The same is true of many of the letters allegedly written by Paul. Most scholars will tell you that whereas seven of the 13 letters that go under Paul's name are his, the other six are not. Their authors merely claimed to be Paul. In the ancient world, books like that were labeled as pseudoi -- lies.

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It's nothing more than a compilation of myths and legends and the practices of one nomad tribe. God only exists in the mind..without a belief in him, he would not exist.

For millions over the world, he does not exist.
Vote Obama

Long Beach, CA

#150 Sep 12, 2012
Pilgrim_ wrote:
Hi Vote Obama
The gospels of Matthewm, Mark, Luke and John refer to Jesus' real early teachings and there's a ton of info there. The reason these books were chosen as the gospels of the new testament canon was because these were the ones that were used by the very earliest Christians and were read out in the very first churches from the beginnings of Christianity. Pilgrim
John Wayne was a tv icon here in the states, he starred in what we call westerns and he also produced many of them himself. Whenever he met someone he liked, he called them 'pilgrim.' He's been gone awhile, he died in 1979 of cancer and I have two of his personally autographed photos :)
Vote Obama

Long Beach, CA

#151 Sep 12, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Thanks...
http://essenes.net/index.php...
It's a born again site that put this up and they call themselves the Buddhist branch of the Original Christianity...Christianity was created by Paul over 600 years after Buddhism...this is the fallacy of the right wing nuts to try to claim that Buddhism is part of Christianity...kinda like their claim that Christ hates gays and doesn't approve of abortion.
Thank you, until now I've never heard of the essenes. The gospel of the holy 12 is of the Nazarenes and was supposedly taught long before any church steeples started popping up.
Vote Obama

Long Beach, CA

#152 Sep 12, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks...
http://essenes.net/index.php...
It's a born again site that put this up and they call themselves the Buddhist branch of the Original Christianity...Christianity was created by Paul over 600 years after Buddhism...this is the fallacy of the right wing nuts to try to claim that Buddhism is part of Christianity...kinda like their claim that Christ hates gays and doesn't approve of abortion.
BTW Ms. Cookie, do you happen to know who wrote the book of revelations because it seems someone really had in for the catholic church when they wrote chapter 17.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#153 Sep 12, 2012
Vote Obama wrote:
<quoted text>BTW Ms. Cookie, do you happen to know who wrote the book of revelations because it seems someone really had in for the catholic church when they wrote chapter 17.
LOL!!!!

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Does this help?

Since: Dec 09

United States

#154 Sep 12, 2012
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:
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Ms. Nettiebelle, bless your heart. Jesus IS the Word of God and Jesus is God. He was there in the beginning and through Him all things were created. See John chapter 1 if you're confused. From Genesis to Revelation you are reading the Word of God. All that is written in both the Old and New Testament is from Jesus. IT is all the Word of God.
Here is what we know based upon Scripture and if you need me to Biblically expound on any point, I will be happy to do so.
1) Godís original design for human sexuality was monogamous, heterosexual marriage.
2) Any deviation from this standard is contrary to Godís will for human sexuality, and therefore constitutes sin.
3) Both the OT and the NT expressly prohibit homosexuality and group it together with other sexual perversions (e.g., adultery, incest, bestiality, etc.)
4) The Biblical prohibitions to homosexuality transcend covenant and are based on the original design for human sexuality at creation.
"1) Godís original design for human sexuality was monogamous, heterosexual marriage."
FALSE.

"2) Any deviation from this standard is contrary to Godís will for human sexuality, and therefore constitutes sin."
FALSE.

"3) Both the OT and the NT expressly prohibit homosexuality and group it together with other sexual perversions (e.g., adultery, incest, bestiality, etc.)"
So say men.

"4) The Biblical prohibitions to homosexuality transcend covenant and are based on the original design for human sexuality at creation."
FALSE: "Biblical prohibitions to homosexuality" are wholly based on the opinions of men.
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We're made in the image of God's Consciousness, NOT His physical image.

Our physical bodies are biological vessels for the consciousness in His Image we are made of.

Our physical bodies are made male and female for the purpose of sexual reproduction, the means by which the future continuing existence of the human species is ensured.

We ARE made in the Image of God.
Our physical bodies are not who we are.
Our consciousness is!
Vote Obama

Long Beach, CA

#155 Sep 12, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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LOL!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =toBOML5W4uQXX&feature=rel ated
Does this help?
Yes thank you he talks about the scarlet and purple colors used by this symbolic harlot woman. But he didn't go far enough. Revelation 17:9b The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.

There is no universally accepted standard definition for the height of a mountain so some hills can be called mountains and some mountains can be called hills. And this had me thinking about the seven hills of Rome and I found this in one of their encyclopedias:
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0712.htm
Scroll all the way down to 17th chapter and verse 9 says, "The seven heads are the seven hills, on which the woman sits," that is the city of Rome. Wow! The catholic church admits to the world that their church is the mother of harlots! Isn't that amazing? What a mind blower!

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#156 Sep 13, 2012
Vote Obama wrote:
<quoted text>Yes thank you he talks about the scarlet and purple colors used by this symbolic harlot woman. But he didn't go far enough. Revelation 17:9b The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.
There is no universally accepted standard definition for the height of a mountain so some hills can be called mountains and some mountains can be called hills. And this had me thinking about the seven hills of Rome and I found this in one of their encyclopedias:
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0712.htm
Scroll all the way down to 17th chapter and verse 9 says, "The seven heads are the seven hills, on which the woman sits," that is the city of Rome. Wow! The catholic church admits to the world that their church is the mother of harlots! Isn't that amazing? What a mind blower!
Yeah, it is a mind blower...but what's their alternative? Deny it and no one believes them? LOL!!!
Intelligent person

Haleyville, AL

#157 Feb 8, 2013
truechristian wrote:
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True Christians are forbidden by Christ and the Bible to vote or take part in any worldly affairs, especially its politics! So Obama and Romney are Shills of Satan, according to the strict teachings of the (NT) Bible, Jesus Christ and his 12 Dwarf-Minded Apostles.
This is "Satan's World" and every government in it (1 John 2:15) belongs to the Devil.
Remember, that Jesus, in his famed "Wilderness Devilry Temptation", was offered "all the kingdoms of Satan's World" if he would ISLAM to Satan. Jesus said, "F*ck You!"
"The world hates them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world." -John 17:14-16
John 15:19
James 4:4
1 John 2:15
Therefore, as far as "True Christians" are concerned, this world (including the USA) is DOOMED! And it can go F*CK ITSELF!(which, of course, it has already done with the Un-American Obama Presidency!)
So, my beguiled "Cockeyed One", since non-voting "True Christians' are rare-to-find (according to Jesus), I believe the magnanimously-false Christians that swell the politically-stained "Tea Party" are literally going to overwhelm your pea-picking group of sorry minority-voters in Nov.(TYVM)
True Christian
Please pack up and move countries then

Since: Dec 12

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#158 Feb 8, 2013
Cookie, you are the face of the one-world religion that is going to encompass the earth just prior to and during the "Great Tribulation" period. You are the perfect candidate for the false messiah that is coming. www.scribd.com/doc/22629976 ...

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#159 Feb 8, 2013
What's the big deal about Obama being in office again? We have super low interest rates, dirt-cheap housing and bargains galore at the stores. Gotta love that, right? Enjoy it while it lasts - at least until our financial/economic system implodes :( Only a deceived fool would have voted for Barry Soetoro a.k.a. Barack Obama. Good bye America. I'm glad I was able to enjoy your freedoms and prosperity most of my life.
informed

Connersville, IN

#161 Feb 8, 2013
You can't be Christian and vote. last i read God says picking the lesser evil is still evil.

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