You Can't Be Christian and Vote repub...

You Can't Be Christian and Vote republican.

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Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

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#1 Aug 19, 2012
Your values and morals would not allow it.

So, this is the election where the born agains either wake up and vote democrat to support the Christian values of helping the poor and being responsible for your actions, or prove they are just a political cult created and manipulated by the rich to make the rich richer.

It will be interesting to see....
Native from Pa

United States

#2 Aug 19, 2012
Cookie
Sorry it is NOT going to happen. I will NEVER vote democrat because they support abortion and gay marriage as well as other things as a Christian I CANNOT support!!!! I am for the TEA PARTY!!!!
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Your values and morals would not allow it.
So, this is the election where the born agains either wake up and vote democrat to support the Christian values of helping the poor and being responsible for your actions, or prove they are just a political cult created and manipulated by the rich to make the rich richer.
It will be interesting to see....
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu

Shelby, OH

#3 Aug 19, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Your values and morals would not allow it.
So, this is the election where the born agains either wake up and vote democrat to support the Christian values of helping the poor and being responsible for your actions, or prove they are just a political cult created and manipulated by the rich to make the rich richer.
It will be interesting to see....
We're following Jesus. He's a conservative.
truechristian

Kennesaw, GA

#4 Aug 19, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Your values and morals would not allow it.
So, this is the election where the born agains either wake up and vote democrat to support the Christian values of helping the poor and being responsible for your actions, or prove they are just a political cult created and manipulated by the rich to make the rich richer.
It will be interesting to see....
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Your values and morals would not allow it.
So, this is the election where the born agains either wake up and vote democrat to support the Christian values of helping the poor and being responsible for your actions, or prove they are just a political cult created and manipulated by the rich to make the rich richer.
It will be interesting to see....
True Christians are forbidden by Christ and the Bible to vote or take part in any worldly affairs, especially its politics! So Obama and Romney are Shills of Satan, according to the strict teachings of the (NT) Bible, Jesus Christ and his 12 Dwarf-Minded Apostles.

This is "Satan's World" and every government in it (1 John 2:15) belongs to the Devil.

Remember, that Jesus, in his famed "Wilderness Devilry Temptation", was offered "all the kingdoms of Satan's World" if he would ISLAM to Satan. Jesus said, "F*ck You!"

"The world hates them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world." -John 17:14-16
John 15:19
James 4:4
1 John 2:15

Therefore, as far as "True Christians" are concerned, this world (including the USA) is DOOMED! And it can go F*CK ITSELF!(which, of course, it has already done with the Un-American Obama Presidency!)

So, my beguiled "Cockeyed One", since non-voting "True Christians' are rare-to-find (according to Jesus), I believe the magnanimously-false Christians that swell the politically-stained "Tea Party" are literally going to overwhelm your pea-picking group of sorry minority-voters in Nov.(TYVM)

True Christian
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu

Shelby, OH

#5 Aug 19, 2012
truechristian wrote:
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True Christians are forbidden by Christ and the Bible to vote or take part in any worldly affairs, especially its politics! So Obama and Romney are Shills of Satan, according to the strict teachings of the (NT) Bible, Jesus Christ and his 12 Dwarf-Minded Apostles.
This is "Satan's World" and every government in it (1 John 2:15) belongs to the Devil.
Remember, that Jesus, in his famed "Wilderness Devilry Temptation", was offered "all the kingdoms of Satan's World" if he would ISLAM to Satan. Jesus said, "F*ck You!"
"The world hates them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world." -John 17:14-16
John 15:19
James 4:4
1 John 2:15
Therefore, as far as "True Christians" are concerned, this world (including the USA) is DOOMED! And it can go F*CK ITSELF!(which, of course, it has already done with the Un-American Obama Presidency!)
So, my beguiled "Cockeyed One", since non-voting "True Christians' are rare-to-find (according to Jesus), I believe the magnanimously-false Christians that swell the politically-stained "Tea Party" are literally going to overwhelm your pea-picking group of sorry minority-voters in Nov.(TYVM)
True Christian
""F*ck You!"

"F*CK ITSELF!""

This is the talk of a true Christian?

Well tell, what does a "True Christian" such as yourself do with the following verse?:

"Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen." (Ephesians 4:29)

Or this Scripture:

"For, whoever would love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from deceitful speech." (1 Peter 3:10)

Perhaps you will like the way James puts it in 3:9-12: "With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water."

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#6 Aug 19, 2012
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:
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We're following Jesus. He's a conservative.
Jesus was the opposite.
Jesus was a liberal.
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu

Shelby, OH

#7 Aug 19, 2012
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus was the opposite.
Jesus was a liberal.
WWJD? He would definitely vote conservative.

“so tell me......”

Since: Aug 08

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#8 Aug 19, 2012
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:
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WWJD? He would definitely vote conservative.
I don't think Jesus would have voted at all.
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu

Shelby, OH

#9 Aug 20, 2012
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think Jesus would have voted at all.
He was more interested in His Father's business wasn't He? Saving souls.

But do you think He or His Father was/is concerned with gay marriage or murdering unborn children?
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu

Shelby, OH

#10 Aug 20, 2012
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think Jesus would have voted at all.
I say that because those are the two main sticking points for conservative Christianity in America.

We can't vote for anyone who calls gay marriage a right when God calls it sin and an abomination.

We can't vote for anyone who calls abortion a woman's right when God calls abortion murder and sin.

We don't have the option to vote with the liberal left. Our conscience would never allow that. If we know what the word of God says, then we know what God is thinking. And God is thinking that the liberal left is way to left because the slaughter and murder of unborn children is just plain wrong and a man laying with another man or a woman laying with another woman for sexual gratification is sin. The Bible says so, thus God says so. Is God ever wrong or mistaken? No of course not.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#11 Aug 20, 2012
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:
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He was more interested in His Father's business wasn't He? Saving souls.
But do you think He or His Father was/is concerned with gay marriage or murdering unborn children?
A theological approach to abortion, if it is to be found at all, cannot explicitly be found in the text of the Bible.
Jesus never said a word against homosexuals or mentioned same-sex marriage.

The Bible is quite clear in letting us know that God gave us Free Will.
The Bible is quite clear who our Judge is.

What's your next Topix nic gonna be, M&Ms?
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu

Shelby, OH

#12 Aug 20, 2012
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text> A theological approach to abortion, if it is to be found at all, cannot explicitly be found in the text of the Bible.
Jesus never said a word against homosexuals or mentioned same-sex marriage.
The Bible is quite clear in letting us know that God gave us Free Will.
The Bible is quite clear who our Judge is.
What's your next Topix nic gonna be, M&Ms?
1 Corinthians 6:9-11: "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

Nuff said!
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu

Shelby, OH

#13 Aug 20, 2012
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text> A theological approach to abortion, if it is to be found at all, cannot explicitly be found in the text of the Bible.
Jesus never said a word against homosexuals or mentioned same-sex marriage.
The Bible is quite clear in letting us know that God gave us Free Will.
The Bible is quite clear who our Judge is.
What's your next Topix nic gonna be, M&Ms?
Ms. Nettiebelle, bless your heart. Jesus IS the Word of God and Jesus is God. He was there in the beginning and through Him all things were created. See John chapter 1 if you're confused. From Genesis to Revelation you are reading the Word of God. All that is written in both the Old and New Testament is from Jesus. IT is all the Word of God.

Here is what we know based upon Scripture and if you need me to Biblically expound on any point, I will be happy to do so.

1) God’s original design for human sexuality was monogamous, heterosexual marriage.

2) Any deviation from this standard is contrary to God’s will for human sexuality, and therefore constitutes sin.

3) Both the OT and the NT expressly prohibit homosexuality and group it together with other sexual perversions (e.g., adultery, incest, bestiality, etc.)

4) The Biblical prohibitions to homosexuality transcend covenant and are based on the original design for human sexuality at creation.
Native from Pa

United States

#14 Aug 20, 2012
Nettie
Abortion is MURDER of a child inside the womb. So yes it is found in the text of the Bible thou shalt NOT murder.

God did mention homosexuals you just refuse to believe what HE SAYS about them and he did mention marriage and HE SAID a man should have ONE WOMAN and a woman should have ONE MAN now how much clearer must God be for you to understand same sex marriage is NOT a marriage and UNNATURAL? That is why Jesus said men should have ONE woman and women should have ONE man.
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text> A theological approach to abortion, if it is to be found at all, cannot explicitly be found in the text of the Bible.
Jesus never said a word against homosexuals or mentioned same-sex marriage.
The Bible is quite clear in letting us know that God gave us Free Will.
The Bible is quite clear who our Judge is.
What's your next Topix nic gonna be, M&Ms?

“so tell me......”

Since: Aug 08

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#15 Aug 20, 2012
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:
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He was more interested in His Father's business wasn't He? Saving souls.
But do you think He or His Father was/is concerned with gay marriage or murdering unborn children?
I think He is more interested in the spiritual realm than the earthly. There are many evils perpetrated in this world and always will be.
People should vote for what they believe is right and if there are no candidates that seem worthy then maybe it's best not to vote at all.
As far as I am concerned few if any politicians are honest and trustworthy anyway and offer empty promises.
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu

Shelby, OH

#16 Aug 20, 2012
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>I think He is more interested in the spiritual realm than the earthly. There are many evils perpetrated in this world and always will be.
People should vote for what they believe is right and if there are no candidates that seem worthy then maybe it's best not to vote at all.
As far as I am concerned few if any politicians are honest and trustworthy anyway and offer empty promises.
I won't argue with your points. I would agree with all of them except the first one.

God is more interested in the happenings on earth than anything else. Of all God's creations it is us humans that He cares most about. God is a God of great detail. He cares about every aspect of your/our life. He loves you like crazy Angelina. He even counted and numbered the hairs on your head. Jesus Himself said that God even knows when a sparrow falls from it's nest and then Jesus asks, "How much more valuable are you than a sparrow."

Did you know that God has recorded every tear that you have ever cried? He has it says so in the Bible. He was there for every tear you ever cried and He alone knows why you cried each and every one. He was there with you and the Bible says that he recorded each and every tear. The Bible also says that He saved your tears in a bottle. Yea, God loves you like crazy and God is a God of detail. He is interested in every aspect of our lives, even the politics. Because politics effect His most valued creation, us.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#17 Aug 20, 2012
Native from Pa wrote:
Nettie
Abortion is MURDER of a child inside the womb. So yes it is found in the text of the Bible thou shalt NOT murder.
God did mention homosexuals you just refuse to believe what HE SAYS about them and he did mention marriage and HE SAID a man should have ONE WOMAN and a woman should have ONE MAN now how much clearer must God be for you to understand same sex marriage is NOT a marriage and UNNATURAL? That is why Jesus said men should have ONE woman and women should have ONE man.
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God/Jesus never mentioned same-sex marriage.
God never condemned homosexuals either. He did condemn sexual rituals performed by heterosexuals used during pagan worship, and the pagan worship was the abomination.

The Bible never specifically mentions abortion.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#18 Aug 20, 2012
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:
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We're following Jesus. He's a conservative.
Not an American Republican Conservative.

Jesus had no comments on things like a Free-market system - that the GOP worship as their God. Which is not free for all peoples, not is it acting solely on its lonesome.

Even those pricks of the Roman Empire knew they had to aid the poor.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#19 Aug 20, 2012
Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:
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I won't argue with your points. I would agree with all of them except the first one.
God is more interested in the happenings on earth than anything else. Of all God's creations it is us humans that He cares most about. God is a God of great detail. He cares about every aspect of your/our life. He loves you like crazy Angelina. He even counted and numbered the hairs on your head. Jesus Himself said that God even knows when a sparrow falls from it's nest and then Jesus asks, "How much more valuable are you than a sparrow."
Did you know that God has recorded every tear that you have ever cried? He has it says so in the Bible. He was there for every tear you ever cried and He alone knows why you cried each and every one. He was there with you and the Bible says that he recorded each and every tear. The Bible also says that He saved your tears in a bottle. Yea, God loves you like crazy and God is a God of detail. He is interested in every aspect of our lives, even the politics. Because politics effect His most valued creation, us.
Blah, blah, blah...bunch of child stories used to trick the unsophisticated minds of a peoples who thought they could read omens in various objects.

To think that this God is keeping intimate records like the hairs on someones head is perhaps the craziest of the crazy. To what good would that serve this God?

I thought this God wasnt made of physical matter, but he's saving tears in a bottle? Where is this storage facility? In the folds of this Gods immense non-material cloak?

How do you not laugh at these claims?

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#20 Aug 20, 2012
Native from Pa wrote:
Nettie
Abortion is MURDER of a child inside the womb. So yes it is found in the text of the Bible thou shalt NOT murder.
God did mention homosexuals you just refuse to believe what HE SAYS about them and he did mention marriage and HE SAID a man should have ONE WOMAN and a woman should have ONE MAN now how much clearer must God be for you to understand same sex marriage is NOT a marriage and UNNATURAL? That is why Jesus said men should have ONE woman and women should have ONE man.
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Then, explain these scriptures:

Exodus 21 draws a clear demarcation between the killing of a person and the killing of a fetus. Exodus 21:12, for example, reads:

Whoever strikes a person mortally shall be put to death. If it was not premeditated, but came about by an act of God, then I will appoint for you a place to which the killer may flee.

But Exodus 21:22 reads:

When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined what the woman's husband demands, paying as much as the judges determine.

In other words: Killing a person outside of the womb warrants the death penalty or exile, but killing a fetus is punishable only by a fine--and that's in a circumstance where the killing of a fetus takes place against the woman's will.

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