Killed to Order: A New Form of Evil

Killed to Order: A New Form of Evil

There are 16 comments on the www.omegaletter.com story from Sep 12, 2007, titled Killed to Order: A New Form of Evil . In it, www.omegaletter.com reports that:

MP David Kilgour and lawyer David Matas recently released their report under the ponderous title; "Bloody Harvest: Revised Report into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China in January this year."

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Charles Liu

United States

#1 Sep 12, 2007
Kilgour's Falun Gong organ allegations has been discredited by multiple undercover investigations conducted by US State Dept. and long time anti-CCP dissident leader Harry Wu:

1) http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.htm...

http://www.usembassy.it/pdf/other/RL33437.pdf (section CRS-7)

2) http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20060806_1.htm

http://www.cicus.org/info_eng/artshow.asp...

Since: Aug 07

Saint Clair Shores, MI

#2 Sep 12, 2007
Thanks for posting those sites Charles. For anyone interested in the report, it can be found here:

http://www.organharvestinvestigation.net/repo...
Jana Shearer

Ingle Farm, Australia

#3 Sep 12, 2007
Charles Lui alias Bobby Flethcer has been discredtited as a Chinese spy working over the inernet to incite hatred and proganda against all who critise his beloved communist regime , Charles has business interests in China.

Your information is incomplete and out of date. The US was merely taken through a show-tour, same as Harry Wu, whose ego was bruised at the time because he no longer was the King of Organ Harvesting. He then started to dismiss the reports. So did the CCP and a few others like yourself. Of course, the critiques, some of whom have investments in China, will never stand on the side of the truth--that is a fact--

However, China is refusing to open its doors to serious investigators -- why and what are they hiding is what I'd like to know.

Anyhow I've gone over this information with you dozens of time on a large number of blogs that you post on -- where you always echo the Party line. You have been discrediting the Kilgour Matas Report from the beginning to the point that people think that you made a career out of it -- see article by journo Kevin Steel:

http://ca2g.eeryu.com/Chinas-sympathizers-lau... -
high-tech-disinformation-campa ign/
rusty

Ether, NC

#4 Sep 13, 2007
I saw something about that on network TV a few years ago.

Petty criminals (Those that were charged with petty crimes) were forced to kneel down, hands tied behind their back and then they were shot in the back of the head with an AK-47.

The bodies were then loaded onto the back of trucks and hauled off to have their organs harvested and sold to unknowing Americans.
rusty

Ether, NC

#5 Sep 13, 2007
After reading the article in full...It makes you wonder about the Wal-Mart concept of doing things.

Anytime I am shopping for goods, I always look for the "Made In USA" lable. Most of my clothing & shoes are made here.

It can be done folks...Just keep shopping until you find it.

Besides, what good are low prices if you lose your job anyway?

“2nd child, lol.”

Since: Apr 07

Salem, MO

#6 Sep 13, 2007
rusty,
...come back to the posttrib thread. I think you would be interested....holy (((hugs)))to ya' bro! Kim

“2nd child, lol.”

Since: Apr 07

Salem, MO

#7 Sep 13, 2007
rusty wrote:
I saw something about that on network TV a few years ago.
Petty criminals (Those that were charged with petty crimes) were forced to kneel down, hands tied behind their back and then they were shot in the back of the head with an AK-47.
The bodies were then loaded onto the back of trucks and hauled off to have their organs harvested and sold to unknowing Americans.
rusty,
I believe it...what you shared here, I believe that LITERALLY happens.
rusty

United States

#8 Sep 14, 2007
IAMlives wrote:
rusty,
...come back to the posttrib thread. I think you would be interested....holy (((hugs)))to ya' bro! Kim
Thanks Kim...I'll try and check it soon.

“rain like grace”

Since: Aug 07

Olympia

#9 Sep 14, 2007
rusty wrote:
After reading the article in full...It makes you wonder about the Wal-Mart concept of doing things.
Anytime I am shopping for goods, I always look for the "Made In USA" lable. Most of my clothing & shoes are made here.
It can be done folks...Just keep shopping until you find it.
Besides, what good are low prices if you lose your job anyway?
Amen!
Charles Liu

United States

#10 Sep 14, 2007
Commenter Jana Shearer is a Falun Gong disciple, an official Falun Gong spokesperson, and have worked for Falun Gong's propaganda newspaper Epoch Times over the years:

http://www.google.com/search...

Not only has Jana refused to back up her "spy" allegation against me, she has also accused other bloggers of the same thing:

http://falungongpolitics.blogspot.com/2007/04...

As I have contacted and verified this with other bloggers Japan has vicitimized.

And Jana Shearer's craziness doesn't stop here. She has also accused me of running a Jihad website as well as being a double agent for the Russians.

It's all documented in above "Epoch Times Reporters Falun Gong Wild" blog.
Charles Liu

United States

#11 Sep 14, 2007
To contradict Jana Shear's "show tour" claim, here's what US embassy said - they conducted a secret visit weeks before the official visit.

http://www.usembassy.it/pdf/other/RL33437.pdf

(section CRS-7)
"American officials from theU.S. Embassy in Beijing and the U.S. consulate in Shenyang visited the area as wellas the hospital site on two occasions — the first time unannounced and the secondwith the cooperation of PRC officials — and after investigating the facility “foundno evidence that the site is being used for any function other than as a normal publichospital.”

There, the conclusion was not reached by the open tour, but the undercover investigation conducted prior.
Jana

Ingle Farm, Australia

#12 Sep 19, 2007
The same thing happened during the Nazi Holocaust last centaury. 2 witnessed came forward with reports of the infamous Auschwitz. In 1944, Rudolph Vrba and Alfred Wetzler presented and eye witness account of the holocaust. Many did not believe the account was accurate and the report was suppressed.

During the next three years and additional 2.5 million Jews were massacred by the Nazis. The world said they were waiting for additional evidence.

This report by David Kilgour and David Matas has 33 points of evidence . They have everything except a body and that you will never find as the bodies of forced organ harvesting and executions are all cremated.

May I also point out that these distinguished gentlemen are former crown prosecutors.
David Kilgour was also an avid human rights champion even during his 25 year career in Canadian parliament as a state secretary for Asia pacific and Cabinet Minister. David Kilgour is not a business man doing business with China like you are Charles Lui.

David Matas credentials are just as impressive. He is an renowned Canadian human rights lawyer, senior legal counsel and accomplished writer, awarded the 2007 Tarnopolsky Human Rights Award for his contributions to domestic and international human rights.

David Matas has served as a member of Canadian delegations to the UN General Assembly, the UN Conference on an International Criminal Court, the Stockholm International Forum on the Holocaust and is the Director of the International Centre for Human Rights & Democratic Development. He is co-author of the report Bloody Harvest Report into Allegations of Organ Harvesting of Falun Gong Practitioners in China 2006/7 with David Kilgour.

You are not in any position to discredit or slander these guys without making a monkey out of yourself.

If they only had one strand of evidence then you could easily say well that does not prove anything,. But the report cited 33 evidences.

Also why would the Communist regime then say this is not true without investigating the 33 allegations themselves. I mean any decent government would have done that to prove their innocence. The CCp denied everything but then produced 2 new laws forbidding the sale of body parts with out consent ? Which proves they were doing it before right?

Like I said the world ignored the reports of Jewish Holocaust to its eternal regret. Never again is here and its happening again.

Everything that comes out the Ccp mouth is nonsense Charles. I admit I am a Falun Gong practitioner and I used to work for the Epoch Times so what???

But who are you working for Bobby alias Charles? I know so it doesn’t matter what you say. We will do our best to help readers see the other side and let then make up their minds on this issue of humanities conscience
Charles Liu

Auburn, WA

#13 Sep 21, 2007
Falun Gong's offical cyber-ops Jana Shearer can only resort to personal attack - precisely because she has nothing to back up her nefarious allegations.
Superwit

Chambersburg, PA

#14 Jul 17, 2008
hohohoho sillywits in every corner hahahaha
specul8r

Alhambra, CA

#15 Aug 1, 2008
She is definitely crazy. I have discredit falun gone from spiritual point of view and I was labeled as "CCP spy". I am the next "008" as it's shown in my handle :) Read what I had posted here:

http://blog.foolsmountain.com/2008/05/22/some...
KungfuPanda

London, OH

#16 Aug 1, 2008
Yes, Jana is definitely craze. When nothing special worth mentioning, she will always states: 1) Persecution; 2) Organ harvesting; 2) CCP spies. Hoping those who bump into the blog will quickly scan through and read the last post. A little cyber psych warfare trick.

But, I'm still not quite clear why Falun Gong was persecuted in China. All they said is just too good to be true.

The best organ harvesting fiasco by her is "Jiang Zhemin and the military are telling it’s people to take out organs while people are alive and then sell for profit.... and then took the money" Another too good to be true.

As for the CCP spy, I don't care, this little psyche trick isn't working for me.

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