Why Do Fundy Christians Love the Ric...

Why Do Fundy Christians Love the Rich and Hate the Poor?

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Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#1 Jan 19, 2013
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/27/1174... '

So, imagine my surprise when she came back with the argument that there had been a mistake when the Bible was translated from Greek to Latin to English. She said that there had been a passage in the wall of Jerusalem called the "Needle" because of the narrowness of the passage and that what Jesus was saying was that it was difficult for a camel to get through it.

First, what happened to divine inspiration? If the Bible was originally given to us through divine inspiration, then wouldn't the translations? But at least in this case, my mother was willing to say there was fallibility in the various versions of the Bible. However, this fallibility was only in areas where she was willing to accept it, but not in the areas where she couldn't.

Second, and probably more importantly to me, she was willing to ignore some of the most important teachings of Jesus! Again, I don't remember him discussing abortion and homosexuality. But he did talk about the poor, and not passing judgment on others, or treating others as we would want to be treated. Jesus pretty much said that if you are rich, you are fucked, give up any thoughts of Heaven. Maybe there would be some exceptions, but I am thinking the "needle" He was talking about was a sewing utensil and not some crack in the wall of Jerusalem.

So the gist is that my mother and millions of other fundy Christians hate something that Jesus never mentioned so much that they are willing to ignore what he taught. And in doing so, they will support Republicans who want to give more money to the rich and screw the poor. Jesus' teaching be damned.

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This seems to be the idea of the fundies on here. Screw Jesus' teachings. Our preachermen are our gods.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#2 Jan 19, 2013
Makes me say "That's it", because I've yet to meet a fundie who quotes Christ.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#4 Jan 19, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Makes me say "That's it", because I've yet to meet a fundie who quotes Christ.
I quote Jesus ALL the time. Oh let me guess.....you only want Christians to quote the "judge not lest ye be judged" verse and take it out of context the way the perverted heathens do? Sorry but Christians are taught to "judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24).

Let's quote a few verses from Jesus:

Luke 13:3- I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
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John 8:24- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
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Mark 8:36-37
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
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Luke 16:23-24
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
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Matthew 23:33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
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Luke 12:4-5
4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.

5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
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Mark 9:43-48
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
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Shall I keep quoting from Jesus?

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#5 Jan 19, 2013
Jesus and marriage:

Matthew 19:4-6
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#6 Jan 19, 2013
Jesus and salvation:

John 3:3-Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
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John 14:6- Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
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John 3:15-18
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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Matthew 7:13-14
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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Matthew 7:21- Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
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John 6:40- And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
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John 10:27-29
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
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John 11:25-26
25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
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John 5:24- Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth My word, and believeth on Him that sent Me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#7 Jan 19, 2013
Next time leave the fundy part out. This is a good question I've wonder about a long time.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#8 Jan 19, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
Next time leave the fundy part out. This is a good question I've wonder about a long time.
Well, Christians don't hate the poor. The only way to describe who it is who hates the poor is to use the term..fundy....they are the born again evangelical fundamentalists who call Christians sinners because of their compassion for the poor.

They certainly do NOT deserve the title Christian, given their hatred of Christ's teachings.

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#9 Jan 19, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Well, Christians don't hate the poor. The only way to describe who it is who hates the poor is to use the term..fundy....they are the born again evangelical fundamentalists who call Christians sinners because of their compassion for the poor.
They certainly do NOT deserve the title Christian, given their hatred of Christ's teachings.
No, but many believe liberal are out to destroy god and will vote republican. Saying the poor are making a necessary sacrifice for the glory of god. After they drive us liberals out god will make this a better country.Most of my extended family thinks this way.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#10 Jan 19, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Well, Christians don't hate the poor. The only way to describe who it is who hates the poor is to use the term..fundy....they are the born again evangelical fundamentalists who call Christians sinners because of their compassion for the poor.
They certainly do NOT deserve the title Christian, given their hatred of Christ's teachings.
A fundamental Christian is one who holds to the fundamental beliefs of Christianity. I've never met any fundamental aka TRUE Christians who hate the poor.

Why lie and make false accusations against REAL Christians? Your master, Satan, is the father of lies and the great accuser of the brethren.
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John 8:44- Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Revelation 12:10- And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Since: Sep 08

Anderson, IN

#11 Jan 20, 2013
Jammercolo wrote:
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No, but many believe liberal are out to destroy god and will vote republican. Saying the poor are making a necessary sacrifice for the glory of god. After they drive us liberals out god will make this a better country.Most of my extended family thinks this way.
That's true, and it is failing. This last election taught that. People are tired of the rich taking it all and those who push for it. The young in the fundamentalist churches are leaving due the push of hatred from their churches.
Not a FC

Broomfield, CO

#13 May 20, 2013
Romans Road wrote:
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A fundamental Christian is one who holds to the fundamental beliefs of Christianity. I've never met any fundamental aka TRUE Christians who hate the poor.
The people who claim this are going by statements about the rich and poor from those who say that they are also fundamental Christians. If these other fundamental Christians are not TRUE Christians then why don't you speak to them about their love of the rich and hate of the poor since they are the ones who are putting out the false messages ?

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#14 May 20, 2013
I have never met a Fundy, or any 'True' Christian who Love's the Rich and Hate's the Poor...

True Christians are giver's, not taker's. Obviously you have never seen someone's eye's light up when you give to someone in need. It's truly a heart felt moment...

Try going to your local motels where some live week to week with no food for their children, and help instead of complaining on here. Or a retirment home, where no one comes to visit them ever. When I walk in they literally cry, because of loneliness.

True happiness comes from helping other's not your own selfishess.

“Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live.”
&#8213; Oscar Wilde

“To be happy, we must not be too concerned with others.”
&#8213; Albert Camus

“Manifest plainness,
Embrace simplicity,
Reduce selfishness,
Have few desires.”
&#8213; Lao Tzu

“Self-absorption in all its forms kills empathy, let alone compassion. When we focus on ourselves, our world contracts as our problems and preoccupations loom large. But when we focus on others, our world expands. Our own problems drift to the periphery of the mind and so seem smaller, and we increase our capacity for connection - or compassionate action.”
&#8213; Daniel Goleman, Social Intelligence: The New Science of Human Relationships...

*So in other words, your statement on your 'thread'
couldn't be farther from the truth...

Try volunteering sometime... Might change your outlook on life in general, regardless of whether you're a believer, or not...:)

Have a nice day!

“ IT'S A CHOICE !!!”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#15 May 20, 2013
Typo, We must be concerned with other's to be happy...

OMIT...“To be happy, we must not be too concerned with others.”
Prophet of Jesus Christ

San Antonio, TX

#16 May 20, 2013
Snevaeh legna wrote:
Typo, We must be concerned with other's to be happy...
OMIT...“To be happy, we must not be too concerned with others.”
Are you aware that you have denied acknowledging that Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, is your redeemer?

Yes or no?

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#17 May 20, 2013
Not a FC wrote:
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The people who claim this are going by statements about the rich and poor from those who say that they are also fundamental Christians. If these other fundamental Christians are not TRUE Christians then why don't you speak to them about their love of the rich and hate of the poor since they are the ones who are putting out the false messages ?
Fundamentalist Christians do a lot to help the poor and needy. We also send missionaries all over the world to share the gospel with the lost.

I haven't ever witnessed a true Christian who hates the poor.
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