Why Does God Punish His Own Creatures

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#362 Mar 21, 2014
Campbell wrote:
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Typical bible thumping trash talk.
I repeat.....believe anything you want to believe but don't come up with a line of bullshit which burns me in eternal hell because I disagree with you.....just leave me out of your formula which came from ancient times. I'm smarter than that......all my grandkids are smarter than that. When people who are supposed to be smart believe there's an invisible man in the sky who watches everything we do and judges us on our activities each and every day....there's something wrong.....very wrong.
Jesus said you're a DAMNED FOOL and will burn in Hell FOREVER. You lose.

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#363 Mar 21, 2014
Seentheotherside wrote:
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Stop lying.
Did your STUPID god make you in its image or not? Jesus said you're a DAMNED FOOL. You lose, again and again ....

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#364 Mar 21, 2014
Seentheotherside wrote:
You get hung up on one or two minor points,
What's more important than the eternal Hell fire O Biblical IGNORAMUS? When you're in reincarnation/Hell fire you'll understand. BAWLING yes, but you'll understand. And you'll remember you were warned. You'll never forget.
Guest

Dallas, TX

#365 Mar 21, 2014
Seentheotherside wrote:
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I only pointed out that you were avoiding his statements by trying to change the topic. So no, I do not want to fall for your deceit and change the subject.
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But your mythology says nothing about this "RIGHTEOUS" loophole. It clearly states that ALL prayers will be answered. They aren't, so your "god" lied. And if you still believe that prayer works, then you are lying to yourself.
And your book of mythology also claims that no man is "RIGHTEOUS". So that's a dead end loophole.
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But read the book, have you ever read it ALL, on your own?
The so called "new covenant" was with the JEWS, and nobody else. So you've been lied to/deceived, you will have to EARN your passage into Heaven just like everyone else.
So after reading your entire post, I see nothing to refute his statement that your Christianity and prayer is anything but primitive superstitions.
I am not trying to deceive anyone, I am trying to spread Truth! Also, I believe the whole evangelical Christian doctrine on "faith alone" "just confess with your lips Jesus is Lord and you will be saved" is a lie from the evil one. I too believe you have to EARN your way into the Kingdom!

For my rebuttal on your response, I will keep it scriptural since it seems your trying to use the Bible against me!

James 5:16 "Confess your faults one to one another, and PRAY for one another, that you may be healed. The effectual FERVENT prayer of a RIGHTEOUS man is POWERFUL."

1 John 3:22 "And whatever we ask, we receive from Him, because we KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, and we do the things pleasing before Him."

John 15:7 "IF you REMAIN in Me, and My Words remain in you, whatever you desire you will ask, and it shall happen to you."

Mark 11:24 "Therefore I say to you, all things, whatever you ask, praying, BELIEVE that you will receive, and it will be to you."

There are definitely requirements for you to be considered righteous in order to have your prayers answered. If God does not hear your prayers this is why:

Isaiah 59:2 "But your INIQUITIES have made a separation between you and your God, and your SINS have hidden His face from you so that He does not HEAR." and if this is you, this is what you need to do:

2 Chronicles 7:14 "And my people, on whom My name is called, shall be HUMBLED, and shall pray, and shall SEEK My face, and shall TURN BACK from their EVIL WAYS, THEN I will hear from heaven, and will FORGIVE their SIN, and will heal their land."

As for righteousness, there's too many passages to quote so I will just quote a few:

Matt 5:10 "Blessed are they who have been persecuted for RIGHTEOUSNESS' sake! For theirs is the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN."

Matt 25:37 "Then the RIGHTEOUS will answer, saying, Master, when did we see You hungry, and fed You; or thirsting, and give You drink?"

Matt 25:46 "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the RIGHTEOUS into everlasting life."

Luke 5:32 "I did not come to call the RIGHTEOUS, but the sinners to repentance."

And as for the new covenant being or Jews only:

Isaiah 49:6 "He says, You will do MORE than restore the people of Israel to Me. I will make you a light to the GENTILES, and you will bring My SALVATION to the ends of the earth."

If you need more see also: Genesis 12:3; Psalm 22:27; Isaiah 42:4; Zechariah 2:11; Isaiah 56:3-7; Isaiah 60:1-3.

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#366 Mar 22, 2014
Seentheotherside wrote:
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I only pointed out that you were avoiding his statements by trying to change the topic.
So who/what is your god, for the fiftieth plus time, O Biblical IGNORAMUS? To avoid such irony answer the question. Jesus said you're a DAMNED FOOL so I doubt that you can answer intelligently. Who/what is your STUPID god?

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#367 Mar 22, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>So who/what is your god, for the fiftieth plus time, O Biblical IGNORAMUS? To avoid such irony answer the question. Jesus said you're a DAMNED FOOL so I doubt that you can answer intelligently. Who/what is your STUPID god?
Dolarbill shouldn't you be calling your god Iesou?
Campbell

Kingston, TN

#368 Mar 22, 2014
Guest wrote:
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Again, you aren't answering any of my responses. I haven't asked you to "research into it's history"! I've asked simple questions and you have zero logical explanations for them, therefore I see your reasoning lacks.
Oh, and memorizing verses has nothing to do with knowing how to properly interpret them!
The most ridiculous thing I can imagine is for someone asking for any logic based upon the contents of the bible....period!

My reasoning is that if there is a god, which I doubt, all of us will be treated equally. There will be none of this bliss for some and burning hell for others.

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#369 Mar 22, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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Dolarbill shouldn't you be calling your god Iesou?
You look like a DAMNED FOOL.

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#370 Mar 22, 2014
Campbell wrote:
My reasoning is that if there is a god, which I doubt, all of us will be treated equally. There will be none of this bliss for some and burning hell for others.
"My reasoning" should be "My perverted reasoning".

Proverbs 16:4 (NKJV)
4 The LORD has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.

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Oceanside, CA

#371 Mar 22, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>You look like a DAMNED FOOL.
literal translation of "Iesous" is "Hail, Zeus

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#372 Mar 22, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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literal translation of "Iesous" is "Hail, Zeus
You should be working on the EVERLASTING FIRE. That's your problem.

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand,'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

You have a date with eternity.

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#373 Mar 22, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>You should be working on the EVERLASTING FIRE. That's your problem.
Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand,'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
You have a date with eternity.
Where does all the wood come from to keep the fire going?

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#374 Mar 22, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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Where does all the wood come from to keep the fire going?
Hint: Read Genesis 1.

Psalm 33:6 (NKJV)
6 By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.

Revelation 19:15 (NKJV)
15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations.

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#375 Mar 22, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>Hint: Read Genesis 1.
Psalm 33:6 (NKJV)
6 By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.
Revelation 19:15 (NKJV)
15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations.
So your Lord has a mouth with swords coming out?Where is the Lords mouth at?
Campbell

Kingston, TN

#376 Mar 22, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>You should be working on the EVERLASTING FIRE. That's your problem.
Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand,'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
You have a date with eternity.
I believe this is more appropriate for you:

Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

A little review for you:

Walk the extra mile
Turn the other cheek
Do unto others
If sued in court for coat, voluntarily give cloak
Love your neighbors
Love your enemies
Pray for those who curse and despise you
Be ye therefore perfect, even as the father is perfect

James 2
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them,“Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

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#377 Mar 22, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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So your Lord has a mouth with swords coming out?Where is the Lords mouth at?
Jesus said you're a DAMNED FOOL. You keep proving Him right.

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#378 Mar 22, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>Jesus said you're a DAMNED FOOL. You keep proving Him right.
Why would I beleive an entity that impregnated his own mom?

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#379 Mar 22, 2014
Campbell wrote:
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I believe this is more appropriate for you:
When did you start believing Jesus?
Campbell

Kingston, TN

#380 Mar 22, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
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Why would I beleive an entity that impregnated his own mom?
LMAO!!! You tell him....I'm laughing so hard that I can't.
Campbell

Kingston, TN

#381 Mar 22, 2014
At least Zeus had the common courtesy to spawn Athena from his brain LOL

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