Give All You Have to the Poor; The Bible Says So

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ChristsAdvocate

Bay City, MI

#1 Mar 7, 2010
I'm posting this from a library computer, because I am homeless. I gave up all my possessions to the poor.

Christ said:

Luke 14:33
Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 6:24
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21-24
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Acts 2:44-45
All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

This is all very clear especially the first part of the scripture. We can not be Christ's disciples unless we give up everything we have. Keeping wealth is a sin. Give it up to the needy.

“I love my wife. :)”

Since: Mar 08

Seattle, WA

#2 Mar 7, 2010
Wow. A Christian that actually follows what they believe. Kudos to you. And good luck. I hope you're ok.
Water

Tampa, FL

#3 Mar 7, 2010
ChristsAdvocate wrote:
I'm posting this from a library computer, because I am homeless. I gave up all my possessions to the poor.
Christ said:
Luke 14:33
Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.
Matthew 6:24
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.
Matthew 19:21-24
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Acts 2:44-45
All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.
This is all very clear especially the first part of the scripture. We can not be Christ's disciples unless we give up everything we have. Keeping wealth is a sin. Give it up to the needy.
Christ, taught about a life of spiritual prosperity, not material poverty, its greed, that Christ was against, he did not advocate a life of poverty and homelessness..Balance through knowledge and understanding of how to manage ones resources, greed is a major problem in America and the world, especially among those run the religious, government and economic cooperations..PEACE..
debby

Grand Prairie, TX

#4 Mar 7, 2010
you are misleading. God says you reap what you sow. if you want to be a missionary worker or such then you can give it all up. depending on where you go you may not come back anyway. the point is you don't worship material things.
debby

Grand Prairie, TX

#5 Mar 7, 2010
no. wealth is not a sin! God made some wealthy for their worship. solomon for example so it is ok to be wealthy. and job. he had his bad days also but he got it back.

“Search For Truth”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#6 Mar 8, 2010
debby wrote:
no. wealth is not a sin! God made some wealthy for their worship. solomon for example so it is ok to be wealthy. and job. he had his bad days also but he got it back.
Not very good examples, are they? Solomon turned to idolatry after some years which make God look cheated, as if God was not Omniscient.
Job story makes God a gambler placing bets with Satan and kill Job's relatives for a bet.

“Search For Truth”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#7 Mar 8, 2010
debby wrote:
no. wealth is not a sin! God made some wealthy for their worship. solomon for example so it is ok to be wealthy. and job. he had his bad days also but he got it back.
But Jesus said it is hard for a rich man to enter heaven. Don't you want an easy way?

“be free indeed”

Since: Jul 09

massachusetts

#8 Mar 9, 2010
Christ's Advocate said:

This is all very clear especially the first part of the scripture. We can not be Christ's disciples unless we give up everything we have. Keeping wealth is a sin. Give it up to the needy.
__________

This person may be quite sincere, but also misled. You say give your wealth to the needy. Then you say keeping wealth is a sin. So then if the needy accepts the wealth you give, they then have sinned. You then have caused another to sin. In causing another to sin, then you have sinned as well!

The bible does not say that money is the root of all evil, it's the Love of money that is evil.
The Scriptures quoted are accurate, but what Jesus means about giving up everything means we recognize that all we have is God's and we are only stewards of His provision. We hold with an open hand and not a clenched fist.

Especially in the Matthew 19 passage of the rich young ruler do we see the futility of trying to live the Christian life and trying to be perfect in the power of human flesh. Jesus was trying to let us discover that we need God's Spirit to overcome our natural selfishness. Sort of like Charles Dickens "Scrooge" character. In the end, he gives of his abundance out of love, because now he has Jesus's love in his life.

I agree that some may be called to a special sacrificial lifestyle, for the sake of ministry. But following Scrooge's conversion, we working people can give the same glory to God.

Since: Aug 08

Somewhere in Ireland

#9 Mar 9, 2010
Venus_Rearmed wrote:
Wow. A Christian that actually follows what they believe. Kudos to you. And good luck. I hope you're ok.
I think you will find that Christs Advocate is having a laugh!

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#10 Mar 9, 2010
ChristsAdvocate wrote:
I'm posting this from a library computer, because I am homeless. I gave up all my possessions to the poor.
Christ said:
Luke 14:33
Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.
Matthew 6:24
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.
Matthew 19:21-24
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Acts 2:44-45
All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.
This is all very clear especially the first part of the scripture. We can not be Christ's disciples unless we give up everything we have. Keeping wealth is a sin. Give it up to the needy.
These passages always amuse me, as TWIACs are forever bound within a game of "karmic hot potato", passing off x-amount of accumulations to someone less-fortunate (who now can't become disciples until they pass it off to the next guy, and so on.....). Perpetual poverty at its most insidious!

Oh, wait.....TWIACs don't do this! At least not in any significant numbers. The quarter-million (250,000) churches in this country attest to that fact (as do the millions of cars in their parking lots and the hundreds of millions of dollars given to charities). They're AWASH in dough!

Boy.....gonna be a lotta red faces when the trumpets sound.....
ChristsAdvocate

Grand Rapids, MI

#11 Mar 9, 2010
true liberty wrote:
This person may be quite sincere, but also misled. You say give your wealth to the needy. Then you say keeping wealth is a sin. So then if the needy accepts the wealth you give, they then have sinned. You then have caused another to sin. In causing another to sin, then you have sinned as well!
They have the free will to accept the wealth or give it away themselves. I make no one sin. I just did what God commanded me to and it is not for me to decide whether they will sin, keep the wealth and burn in hell for all eternity, or whether they will obey and find eternal salvation. If everyone follows the Bible then we all give away our wealth which means going to a simpler more ascetic and biblical existance.

“be free indeed”

Since: Jul 09

massachusetts

#12 Mar 10, 2010
ChristsAdvocate wrote:
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They have the free will to accept the wealth or give it away themselves. I make no one sin. I just did what God commanded me to and it is not for me to decide whether they will sin, keep the wealth and burn in hell for all eternity, or whether they will obey and find eternal salvation. If everyone follows the Bible then we all give away our wealth which means going to a simpler more ascetic and biblical existance.
Generosity indeed should be one of the characteristics of a Christian. Your post reminds me of the movie "Pay it Forward" - what people receive they should help someone else with.

Salvation is not found in the decisions we make about money, but the ultimate decision we make about Christ. We all must answer Pontius Pilate's question: "What shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ?"
What you believe about Him makes all the difference in the world concerning eternal salvation.

If we fail to see the deeper meaning of the verse you follow and take it literally, then you must take literally these verses as well:

If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.(Luke 14:26)
(Do you hate them?- the Bible says so)

If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.(Matthew 5:29-30)
(I don't think you have followed these verses yet, since you can still type on the computer)

“be free indeed”

Since: Jul 09

massachusetts

#13 Mar 10, 2010
I'm posting this from a library computer, because I am homeless. I gave up all my possessions to the poor.(Christ's advocate)
__________

The Pharisees as well in Jesus's day, proclaimed to the world the wonderful works they were doing in the name of religion. They had a certain part of their clothes that showed how many Bible verses they had memorized. They fasted in such a way that people could see how deeply serious they were. They prayed in the streets to be heard and seen by others.

Because of all this, Jesus called them hypocrites.

Now, I am sorry for your homeless situation. But if it's true - you sound like you don't mind.

Jesus did not approve of those who play a loud trumpet of pride and display self-righteousness. Our hearts are twisted in such a way that even though we may follow every commandment of God perfectly, we would sin the worst sin, the sin of pride, the sin that kicked Satan out of Hell.

Trust in Jesus only, not in your self-righteousness!
Ooglor 7

Elyria, OH

#14 Mar 10, 2010
But what about the perfect fusion of agendas with modern Christianity and the GOP? You mean all those patriotic, outstanding God fearing people are really just greedy, self absorbed, oil money silver spoons that have nothing to do with the teachings of Christ? Next you'll be telling us that there is no Biblical founding on global warming, evolution, stem cell research, the war in Iraq...
Ooglor 7

Elyria, OH

#15 Mar 10, 2010
...the NRA, the tobacco industry, health care reform, amnesty for illegal aliens, tea parties, torture camps...
Ooglor 7

Elyria, OH

#16 Mar 10, 2010
This can't be true! George W Bush spoke in tongues for 8 solid years! Surely that proves these people are in good with God.
Jumper

Owensboro, KY

#17 Mar 10, 2010
Ooglor 7 wrote:
This can't be true! George W Bush spoke in tongues for 8 solid years! Surely that proves these people are in good with God.
Are you ok? do you need some money?
jooce

Long Beach, CA

#18 Mar 10, 2010
ChristsAdvocate wrote:
I'm posting this from a library computer, because I am homeless. I gave up all my possessions to the poor.
Christ said:
Luke 14:33
Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.
Matthew 6:24
No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.
Matthew 19:21-24
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth. Then Jesus said to his disciples, "I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Acts 2:44-45
All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.
This is all very clear especially the first part of the scripture. We can not be Christ's disciples unless we give up everything we have. Keeping wealth is a sin. Give it up to the needy.
What a load of CRAP! No one, that is, no one in their right mind gives up everything they own so they can live homeless on the streets. It's a hard enough life as it is without walking the streets, begging for money to buy some brew and looking for a safe place to get drunk and then sleep it off every night. Of course there are some very successful and creative panhandlers here where I live. This one guy went down to the local Goodwill store and bought himself a wheelchair and he uses it every day parked out in front of the local convenience and liquor stores to get sympathy while begging for money. Most days he rakes in 3 to 4 hundred dollars, all tax-free. But he uses that money to pay rent and buy his brew, he's not homeless.

Since: Dec 09

Chicago, IL

#19 Mar 10, 2010
ChristsAdvocate wrote:
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They have the free will to accept the wealth or give it away themselves. I make no one sin. I just did what God commanded me to and it is not for me to decide whether they will sin, keep the wealth and burn in hell for all eternity, or whether they will obey and find eternal salvation. If everyone follows the Bible then we all give away our wealth which means going to a simpler more ascetic and biblical existance.
Wealth is excess, having more than you need. That's why having wealth, while others have nothing, or not enough (the poor) is a sin.
And giving to the poor, does not mean to give your wealth to a single poor person, but to the many poor. Thus, no one person would receive enough to make them wealthy.
It could also pertain freely giving the full benefit of ALL your knowledge of the Lord, to those who know little or nothing about Him.
Ooglor 7

Elyria, OH

#20 Mar 11, 2010
Jumper wrote:
<quoted text>Are you ok? do you need some money?
No thanks. I don't insist on putting the word God on something so dirty like you do. Thanks Jesus for pointing out in the Holy Word of God that Christian Republicans will be joining me eternally in the fires of hell. Unless of course you think the Bible is wrong and Jesus lied. Too bad he didn't leave any room for you to spin that one. See you in hell, Chips Ahoy! Biblically speaking that is.

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