Gays Behind Attacks On Christianity

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#1251 Oct 15, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
11-yr-old pro-life girl brought to tears by pro-abortion activists outside DNC Convention
No abuse is acceptable whether it stem from a group or parental ignorance/abuse.

It is beyond ridiculous that both congress and the parents allowed a child to testify over an issue that a child has no business getting involved in. If she is not old enough to marry, she is not old enough to testify on that issue. Will congress and her parents next allow her testify to lower the drinking age, age of consent to marry, or the age to drive? Not likely.

An eleven year also has no business protesting or public speaking over an issue she knows nothing about. She likely just learned about sex in the last year and doubtful she knows much about birth control and its safe uses! Again, if she is not old enough to get pregnant and responsibly raise that child, she is not old enough to protest this subject either direction. If this child's views opposed the parent's do you think they would have allowed her out to protest the other direction? No, they used her for their agenda plain and simple and that is deplorable.

These issues should be discussed between parents and children in the home. If the *parent*(aka the adult) has something to say to congress or a convention, then they need be mature enough to do so themselves. If what they have to say is not worth them getting up and saying it, they SHOULD NOT have their children say it for them because that will be "cute" or because they think age will exempt the children from the fall out of their parents poor choices.

The responsibility for both the outcomes of these two stories falls directly in the lap of the parents who made very poor choices that now will likely affect their children for years to come. I hope the parents have learned to make better choices and will now choose to *protect* their children instead of using them to further an agenda.

Publicity stunts that put children's physiological or physical well being in jeopardy should not be glamorized or even repeated, they should be condemned. Since when did abusive and irresponsible parenting become noteworthy instead of condemnable?

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Panorama City, CA

#1252 Oct 15, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
The purpose of victim imagery is to make straights feel very uncomfortable; that is, to jam with shame the self-righteous pride that would ordinarily accompany and reward their antigay belligerence, and to lay groundwork for the process of conversion by helping straights identify with gays and sympathize with their underdog status.… the public should be persuaded that gays are victims of circumstance, that they no more chose their sexual orientation than they did, say, their height, skin color, talents, or limitations.… gays should be portrayed as victims of prejudice.
Another tactic used by homophobes is the demonization of gay people. They start by claiming being gay is a choice.
Did you choose your sexual orientation?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#1253 Oct 15, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
This confusion is now pervasive in society, and questioning the agenda is simply not to be tolerated – especially among America’s youth.
Rose's Law...
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
For example, the classical notion that universities should be “arenas for the free exchange of ideas” has been completely discarded in the United States.
Nothing worries fundies more than the idea they won't be able to spread hate.
More than three-fourths of U.S. colleges and universities now possess codes of conduct that ban behavior and speech based upon, including many other things,“homophobia.” The danger that these codes represent to academic freedom far outweighs their usefulness. This has already been amply demonstrated, as many colleges have severely punished students for merely desiring to debate the topic of homosexuality.
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
The squashing of dissenting views on homosexuality in the classroom has been going on for decades now. In 1991, a student at the University of Michigan announced his intention to establish a counseling program to help homosexuals leave their lifestyle. He was dragged before a panel of university administrators, unanimously found guilty of “sexual harassment,” and was thrown out of the university.[5]
Good, he had no business doing that and relating it to the University. That would have damaged their reputation. He's free to do it on his own.
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
In 2000, the Student Judiciary of Tufts University voted officially to “derecognize” the Tufts Christian Fellowship (TCF) club for taking into account, for purposes of selecting leaders, the beliefs of a member whose views of Scripture and homosexuality were opposed to their own.[6] The TCF was stripped of funding, not permitted to use the Tufts name, not permitted to meet in any room that required a reservation, and not allowed to advertise or announce any of their events or meetings. In 2011, a Fort Worth, Texas high school student was suspended from school for reportedly saying,“I’m a Christian, and I don’t think being gay is right,” during a class discussion.[7] And teachers don’t have it any easier. In 2010 a professor at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign was accused of “hate speech” and relieved of his teaching duties for teaching Catholic doctrine on homosexuality in his Introduction to Catholicism class.[8]
Schools have the right to protect their reputations, and protect students from being told they are wrong for being who they are. Nothing seems to worry Xians more than the idea they won't be able to spread hate.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#1254 Oct 15, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Political science professor Jean Betheke Elshtain, while highlighting the dangers presented by codes against racism, also points out the difficulties associated with all punitive codes of this nature:“My hunch is that, over the long haul, the upshot of such endeavors [college speech codes] will not be a purified, racist-free, collective student consciousness, but a simmering backlog of resentment at being labeled as a racist, even if one has never committed a racist act or uttered a racist slur.”[9]
No one should attempt to deny homosexuals their basic human rights; which are the same basic rights that we all have as being sons and daughters of God. But it has gotten to the point where we have to fight to preserve our own basic rights — the rights to free speech, religion, assembly, and teaching our own children our values – in order to protect our own families and institutions.
Those who promote homosexuality are forcibly tearing away more and more of the rights of Christians, and the situation is rapidly deteriorating. Who could have possibly imagined just a few years ago that companies would start firing people for writing pro-family articles on their own time, or business owners would be sued for refusing to participate in homosexual union ceremonies?
Again, notice trying to paint people in favor of equal rights as "anti-family".
Think you can promote homosexuality? Well, tell us what a person could say that would make you decide to be gay.

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#1255 Oct 16, 2012
Brenda Lee Johnson wrote:
Luke Wrote:
Gays have been the driving force against Christianity while hiding behind atheism. Homosexuals have attacked the Boy Scouts, The Girl Scouts, Big Brother, The Salvation Army and any other institution that supports Christian values. Gays have been embolden by politicians who have pushed to forward the Gay Agenda while hiding important information about homosexual diseases.
Homosexuals who are less than 4% of the population now threaten and attack anyone who opposes their lifestyle. Judges and children are not excluded.
So what? Who cares what paranoid Luke wrote.

Homosexuals attacked no one. They have been attacked by Family Research council and the born again evangelicals. Homosexuals were excluded from Boy Scouts in the 1980s and now Boy Scouts are infested with Christian pedophiles.

Show us proof of these allegations you make about homosexuals.

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#1256 Oct 16, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Again, notice trying to paint people in favor of equal rights as "anti-family".
Think you can promote homosexuality? Well, tell us what a person could say that would make you decide to be gay.
Homosexuality isn't a choice. What made you decide to be heterosexual.

Show me in the bible where CHRIST said being gay was an abomination.

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#1257 Oct 16, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Those who promote homosexuality are forcibly tearing away more and more of the rights of Christians, and the situation is rapidly deteriorating. Who could have possibly imagined just a few years ago that companies would start firing people for writing pro-family articles on their own time, or business owners would be sued for refusing to participate in homosexual union ceremonies?
[2] Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) annual report entitled “Hate Crime Statistics.” Table 1,“Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Known Offenders by Bias Motivation.” http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/ucr.htm .
Examples of how gays are tearing away the fabric of Christians? And are you talking about Christians, or born again evangelicals and the Family Research Council?
Cool Hand Luke

Wilmington, DE

#1258 Oct 16, 2012
The story is the degree homosexuals and the far left will go to force their view point on others, as I have said before "The Saul Alinsky Tactics"

Threatening The Boy Scouts, The Girl Scouts, The Salvation Army, Judges and Churches and yes even little girls. I could not possibly begin to count the number of businesses that have been bullied into giving up cash to promote "Obama's Queerdom".

The Acts of a small twisted minority attempting to force their will on the majority.

Not even with the help from the Pro-Homosexual media have you been able to force acceptance of your viewpoints on the majority. The new best reference is Chick-fil-A.

Oh yes, if we were willing to accept the viewpoint of the mainstream media we would think that everyone just loves queers and their disgusting behavior. The media sells them as masters of fashion and yet the nations health departments point out the diseases from eating feces!
Anytime those Pro- Homosexual numbers are checked via elections or in any other venue that can't be exploited, the American People make it clear they despise homosexuality.

All the left has been able to accomplish is to create in fear in some citizens of speaking out and voicing their opinions, that's why I say your in for a big surprise this election. Like I said "The Democrats have conned themselves by believing their own bull"

I mentioned the pro-homosexual networks, they have hurt themselves far more than they have helped you.
Seriously__ wrote:
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No abuse is acceptable whether it stem from a group or parental ignorance/abuse.
It is beyond ridiculous that both congress and the parents allowed a child to testify over an issue that a child has no business getting involved in. If she is not old enough to marry, she is not old enough to testify on that issue. Will congress and her parents next allow her testify to lower the drinking age, age of consent to marry, or the age to drive? Not likely.
An eleven year also has no business protesting or public speaking over an issue she knows nothing about. She likely just learned about sex in the last year and doubtful she knows much about birth control and its safe uses! Again, if she is not old enough to get pregnant and responsibly raise that child, she is not old enough to protest this subject either direction. If this child's views opposed the parent's do you think they would have allowed her out to protest the other direction? No, they used her for their agenda plain and simple and that is deplorable.
These issues should be discussed between parents and children in the home. If the *parent*(aka the adult) has something to say to congress or a convention, then they need be mature enough to do so themselves. If what they have to say is not worth them getting up and saying it, they SHOULD NOT have their children say it for them because that will be "cute" or because they think age will exempt the children from the fall out of their parents poor choices.
The responsibility for both the outcomes of these two stories falls directly in the lap of the parents who made very poor choices that now will likely affect their children for years to come. I hope the parents have learned to make better choices and will now choose to *protect* their children instead of using them to further an agenda.
Publicity stunts that put children's physiological or physical well being in jeopardy should not be glamorized or even repeated, they should be condemned. Since when did abusive and irresponsible parenting become noteworthy instead of condemnable?
Cool Hand Luke

Wilmington, DE

#1259 Oct 16, 2012
Let me help you out there Sticky Britches, The view points of "THE FRC OR FAMILY RESEARCH CENTER are accepted view points of not only Christians but normal people of any faith!

No normal person thinks it's acceptable to eat feces!

No normal person thinks it's acceptable to molest children!

No normal persons thinks that being the source of a disease that has killed millions and the primary source for it's continued spreading is acceptable!

Not to mention the highest rate of syphilis, herpes, hepatitis, anal cancer and various parasites from feces eating.

I take that back, nobody but the Democrats think that's normal.

Glad to have cleared that up for you!

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Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Examples of how gays are tearing away the fabric of Christians? And are you talking about Christians, or born again evangelicals and the Family Research Council?
Cool Hand Luke

Bangkok, Thailand

#1261 Oct 16, 2012
What does the likes of you know about the bible?Except to pervert it's meaning!

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Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Homosexuality isn't a choice. What made you decide to be heterosexual.
Show me in the bible where CHRIST said being gay was an abomination.

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#1262 Oct 16, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
The story is the degree homosexuals and the far left will go to force their view point on others, as I have said before "The Saul Alinsky Tactics"
Threatening The Boy Scouts, The Girl Scouts, The Salvation Army, Judges and Churches and yes even little girls. I could not possibly begin to count the number of businesses that have been bullied into giving up cash to promote "Obama's Queerdom".
The Acts of a small twisted minority attempting to force their will on the majority.
Not even with the help from the Pro-Homosexual media have you been able to force acceptance of your viewpoints on the majority. The new best reference is Chick-fil-A.
Oh yes, if we were willing to accept the viewpoint of the mainstream media we would think that everyone just loves queers and their disgusting behavior. The media sells them as masters of fashion and yet the nations health departments point out the diseases from eating feces!
Anytime those Pro- Homosexual numbers are checked via elections or in any other venue that can't be exploited, the American People make it clear they despise homosexuality.
All the left has been able to accomplish is to create in fear in some citizens of speaking out and voicing their opinions, that's why I say your in for a big surprise this election. Like I said "The Democrats have conned themselves by believing their own bull"
I mentioned the pro-homosexual networks, they have hurt themselves far more than they have helped you.
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Who bunch of right wing lies here, but nothing offered as proof.

Who's Saul Alinsky?

Boy Scouts to report suspected pedophiles to U.S. authorities

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/01/us-...

he Boy Scouts of America is preparing to report to law enforcement the names of hundreds of adult leaders who have confessed to or been accused of molesting scouts since the 1960s, a spokesman said Monday.

The Boy Scouts' policy since last year has required accusations or incidents of child molestation to be immediately reported to authorities. Before then, reporting requirements differed from state to state depending on local laws, which raised questions about how many incidents went unreported over the years.

The change announced on Monday "is simply retrofitting our current policy to past cases," according to organization spokesman Deron Smith.

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Pedophiles are not homosexuals. Pedophiles like to commmit sexual acts onto children. Homosexuals enjoy consensual sexual acts with consenting adults.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/boy-...

After a confidential two-year review, the Boy Scouts of America on Tuesday emphatically reaffirmed its policy of excluding gays, angering critics who hoped that relentless protest campaigns might lead to change.

The Scouts cited support from parents as a key reason for keeping the policy and expressed hope that the prolonged debate over it might now subside. Bitter reactions from gay-rights activists suggested that result was unlikely.

The Scouts' national spokesman, Deron Smith, told The Associated Press that an 11-member special committee, formed discreetly by top Scout leaders in 2010, came to the conclusion that the exclusion policy "is absolutely the best policy" for the 102-year-old organization.

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See? The BSA banned gays, but hid pedophiles.

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#1263 Oct 16, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Oh yes, if we were willing to accept the viewpoint of the mainstream media we would think that everyone just loves queers and their disgusting behavior. The media sells them as masters of fashion and yet the nations health departments point out the diseases from eating feces!
Anytime those Pro- Homosexual numbers are checked via elections or in any other venue that can't be exploited, the American People make it clear they despise homosexuality.

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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/05/08/11...

Half of Americans believe gay marriage should be legal, but nearly as many are opposed, the Gallup organization said Tuesday in releasing a new poll that it said underscores “just how divided the nation is on this issue.”

Fifty percent of Americans think same-sex marriage should be legal and bestow the same rights as traditional marriage, compared to 48 percent who don’t, according to the poll.

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Your bigotry and born again evangelical hatred is not convincing the majority of Americans.

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#1264 Oct 16, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Let me help you out there Sticky Britches, The view points of "THE FRC OR FAMILY RESEARCH CENTER are accepted view points of not only Christians but normal people of any faith!

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The Family Research Council is a bigoted and racist organization whose views are only accepted by bigoted and racists persons.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/fr...

Contrary to what the FRC has repeatedly claimed, we do not list the FRC as a hate group because of its opposition to gay marriage or because of its religious beliefs. Instead, we list the FRC because it engages in baseless, incendiary name-calling and spreads demonizing lies about the LGBT community.

The FRC portrays gay people as sick, evil, perverted, incestuous and a danger to the nation. It insists that gay people are “fundamentally incapable” of providing good homes for children – a myth that has been rejected by all relevant scientific authorities. One of its key leaders has actually said that homosexual behavior should be criminalized.

Perhaps the FRC’s most dangerous lie is its claim that pedophilia is a “homosexual problem,” to use Perkins’ words. Here’s what the American Psychological Association says:“Despite a common myth, homosexual men are not more likely to sexually abuse children than heterosexual men are.” The APA adds,“There is no scientific support for fears about children of lesbian or gay parents being sexually abused by their parents or their parents’ gay, lesbian or bisexual friends or acquaintances.”

Linking the LGBT community to pedophilia is not an expression of a religious belief, as Perkins would have it. It’s simply a lie – and a particularly ugly one at that. Constantly portraying gay people as sick, evil, perverted, incestuous and a danger to the nation simply adds fuel to the fire.

And it’s a fire that is raging in our country.

As the FBI hate crime data shows, the LGBT community – the community that the FRC constantly vilifies – is, by far, the minority group most targeted for violent hate crimes. And the FBI statistics don’t even take into account the epidemic of anti-LGBT bullying in our schools – an epidemic that has led to suicides.

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Vile and vulgar liars with twisted and distorted ideas of sexuality which they themselves probably indulge in.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/family-...

FRC has testified before congress on many "pro-family" issues, filed amicus briefs, and published a lot of reports that they regularly circulate to politicians.
In September 2001, FRC's president attacked President Bush for his "implicit endorsement of the homosexual political agenda" with the appointment of two openly gay men by the Bush administration.
FRC has also defended the Boy Scout's discriminatory practices against gay men and lesbians and has criticized the Girl Scouts for not having the same practice. FRC has joined many other right-wing conservative groups by attacking and boycotting Disney's "gay-friendly" policies. FRC has lobbied against many "equal rights" measures that extend civil rights protections to gay and lesbian people, and has promoted the "ex-gay" movement as a way to combat civil rights measures for gay men and lesbians.
FRC strives to ban all federal or state support for family planning services and overturn the right to an abortion. FRC is a strong supporter of "abstinence-only" education and opposes sex education that addresses contraception.
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A hate group...nothing more, nothing less.

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#1265 Oct 16, 2012
Family Research Council founder hires a Rentboy

Updated 8:37 p.m.
By Sandhya Somashekhar
George Alan Rekers, a prominent anti-gay activist and cofounder of the conservative Family Research Council, recently returned from a 10-day trip to Europe with a male escort who advertises on a Web site called Rentboy.com , according to a May Miami New Times article that was lighting up the liberal blogosphere and gay media outlets Wednesday.

Rekers told the New Times he hired the escort to help carry luggage, not for sexual purposes, and that he only learned his companion was a prostitute midway through the trip. On Wednesday, he published a statement on his Web site decrying the New Times story as "slanderous."

"A recent article in an alternative newspaper cleverly gave false impressions of inappropriate behavior because of its misleading innuendo, incorrectly implying that Professor George Rekers used the Rentboy website to hire a prostitute to accompany him on a recent trip," the statement said. "Contrary to Internet stories based on this slanderous article, following medical advice Professor George Rekers requires an assistant to lift his luggage in his travels because of an ongoing condition following surgery.... Professor Rekers was not involved in any illegal or sexual behavior with his travel assistant."

A professor of psychology at the University of South Carolina and a Baptist minister, Rekers is a leading proponent of therapy to "cure" homosexuality and has testified against gay adoption. He is a board member of the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, which calls itself "a professional, scientific organization that offers hope to those who struggle with unwanted homosexuality."

The escort, who was identified in the article by the pseudonym 'Lucien,' told the newspaper that his services were enlisted through Rentboy.com , which helps clients "find gay escorts, male escorts, gay masseurs, male masseurs and learn how to become an escort."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/05/f...

Family Research Council member going on vacation with gay man. What hypocrites these liars are.

“Only Biblical methods will ”

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#1266 Oct 16, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
The story is the degree homosexuals and the far left will go to force their view point on others, as I have said before "The Saul Alinsky Tactics"
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You glamorize and idolize the far right for going so far to make *their* point that they are willing to jeopardize the physiological well being of their children? What is that called? I call it selfish, abusive and completely unacceptable.

Your constant need to re-post their abuse and idolize the suffering the poor children endured due to their parents mistakes is also unacceptable. The children were the victims in this idiocy. They were the victims of their parent's mistakes or their parent's agenda as the case may be and there is nothing glamorous about that.

“Only Biblical methods will ”

Since: Apr 10

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#1267 Oct 16, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
I mentioned the pro-homosexual networks, they have hurt themselves far more than they have helped you.
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No TV network has helped me or hurt me, ever. Which ones have helped or hurt you lately? If any are actually helping you, maybe I would begin watching TV again, but it is mainly just propaganda of sort or another, so I stopped watching long ago and found more productive was to use my time.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#1268 Oct 16, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
Homosexuality isn't a choice. What made you decide to be heterosexual.
Show me in the bible where CHRIST said being gay was an abomination.
Hey, I'm on your side.
I figure gay people are gay like I am straight. I didn't choose to be, and there is nothing anybody could say to make me a lesbian. I even got it on with a chick. Still straight. I figure a gay person looking into the eyes of their same sex partner sees the same things I see when I look into the eyes of my opposite sex partner. IOW, it's beyond just the sex. Not that there's anything wrong with just sex. ;)

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#1269 Oct 16, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
Let me help you out there Sticky Britches, The view points of "THE FRC OR FAMILY RESEARCH CENTER are accepted view points of not only Christians but normal people of any faith!
You do know that the FRC was founded by George "I didn't know what the Rent boy dot com web site was for" Rekkers, don't you? One does wonder why you need to know the length of the member of the person who is going to carry your luggage. Guess if he runs out of hands, he'll have something to hang a bag on?(The site is only for people over 18.)
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
No normal person thinks it's acceptable to eat feces!
You sure post a lot of it!
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
No normal person thinks it's acceptable to molest children!
Rose's Law: Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?".

BTW:
No normal person obsesses over the sex lives of others!

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#1270 Oct 16, 2012
Cool Hand Luke wrote:
What does the likes of you know about the bible?Except to pervert it's meaning!
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I'd wipe my buttocks with the pages of the Buy-bull after doing #2. But the pages are already full of $#!+.

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#1271 Oct 16, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Hey, I'm on your side.
I figure gay people are gay like I am straight. I didn't choose to be, and there is nothing anybody could say to make me a lesbian. I even got it on with a chick. Still straight. I figure a gay person looking into the eyes of their same sex partner sees the same things I see when I look into the eyes of my opposite sex partner. IOW, it's beyond just the sex. Not that there's anything wrong with just sex. ;)
I apologize for the comment. I quoted you in error.

And I agree totally.

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