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common sense, reason & science are winning over bronze age mythology

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zazenmind

Riverview, FL

#1 Nov 7, 2012
Yes its true, million of free thinking individuals are daily becoming aware that we are entering a new age of enlightenment, and leaving behind the dark ages that are rooted in the primitive organized superstitions of the past, known to the world as religion, faith, dogma and belief..
Job

San Francisco, CA

#2 Nov 7, 2012
zazenmind wrote:
Yes its true, million of free thinking individuals are daily becoming aware that we are entering a new age of enlightenment, and leaving behind the dark ages that are rooted in the primitive organized superstitions of the past, known to the world as religion, faith, dogma and belief..
We're not entering into anything new. This nauseating lingo has existed for centuries. It's selling/promoting the idea that man is God. It's a whole other type of slavery akin to religious slavery. Mass commercialization intended to enslave man's ego.

Has marketing improved? Have people become enlightened to commercial slavery? No. It's just as bad as it's always been. Companies still use 'cheesy' hooks like "The Next Big Thing Is Here!". And that's because "it works". If sheep will keeping eating it, keep feeding it to them.

The trick of the 'new agers' is to get people to believe that there's something 'big' coming on the horizon. This works in marketing commercial products, and new age religions. A supposed new awakening, or enlightenment. It never seems to show up though.
Sola Scriptura

Statts Mills, WV

#3 Nov 7, 2012
Job wrote:
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We're not entering into anything new. This nauseating lingo has existed for centuries. It's selling/promoting the idea that man is God. It's a whole other type of slavery akin to religious slavery. Mass commercialization intended to enslave man's ego.
Has marketing improved? Have people become enlightened to commercial slavery? No. It's just as bad as it's always been. Companies still use 'cheesy' hooks like "The Next Big Thing Is Here!". And that's because "it works". If sheep will keeping eating it, keep feeding it to them.
The trick of the 'new agers' is to get people to believe that there's something 'big' coming on the horizon. This works in marketing commercial products, and new age religions. A supposed new awakening, or enlightenment. It never seems to show up though.
Well said!

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#4 Nov 7, 2012
zazenmind wrote:
Yes its true, million of free thinking individuals are daily becoming aware that we are entering a new age of enlightenment, and leaving behind the dark ages that are rooted in the primitive organized superstitions of the past, known to the world as religion, faith, dogma and belief..
I prefer to think of it as we are going back to our Secular nation and that the political cult religions have lost their steam.

I still believe people have a right to practice their religion...I just think we are all saying, they don't have a right to impose it on my secular government.
zazenmind

Riverview, FL

#5 Nov 8, 2012
Job wrote:
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We're not entering into anything new. This nauseating lingo has existed for centuries. It's selling/promoting the idea that man is God. It's a whole other type of slavery akin to religious slavery. Mass commercialization intended to enslave man's ego.
Has marketing improved? Have people become enlightened to commercial slavery? No. It's just as bad as it's always been. Companies still use 'cheesy' hooks like "The Next Big Thing Is Here!". And that's because "it works". If sheep will keeping eating it, keep feeding it to them.
The trick of the 'new agers' is to get people to believe that there's something 'big' coming on the horizon. This works in marketing commercial products, and new age religions. A supposed new awakening, or enlightenment. It never seems to show up though.
I agree that enlightenment has become just another commrercial for millions of people, but this does not mean, that their is not a small and growing number of individuals, that are awakening every moment, just like their are literally billions, that remain brainwashed and ignorant, its a two way street.

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#6 Nov 8, 2012
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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I prefer to think of it as we are going back to our Secular nation and that the political cult religions have lost their steam.
I still believe people have a right to practice their religion...I just think we are all saying, they don't have a right to impose it on my secular government.
Hi Cookie! How are you sweetie? I agree with you. I wish religion would just stay out of politics completely. The republicans turned a lot of people off with their Christain bible thumping politics and not sticking with the critical issues.
zazenmind

Riverview, FL

#7 Nov 9, 2012
To be truely awakened, is to live mindfull of every moment, seeing what is actual clearly without distortion or fear, this is something christian do not have, because they waste so much of their time, debating and following the dead belief and pattern of the past..Day dreaming of heaven as if its a real place, while ignoring the only reality, in and of the present, refusing to change or adopt new ways of thinking and inter-acting with others..WAKE UP!
Flygerian

Chickasha, OK

#8 Nov 9, 2012
The way you could prove there is no God is when you create something out of nothing. Till then I will always believe that there is ONE and for you to act as if this belief is ridiculous is, well, ridiculous.

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#9 Nov 9, 2012
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Cookie! How are you sweetie? I agree with you. I wish religion would just stay out of politics completely. The republicans turned a lot of people off with their Christain bible thumping politics and not sticking with the critical issues.
I'm so sorry Earth Child 1...just now noticed this.

Doing great...you?

That's been the problem in this nation, TRUE Christians were not included in the media. I do think that the political cult radical religious group is losing its hold in this nation...thank heaven...long live Christianity...abolish political cults.

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#10 Nov 9, 2012
zazenmind wrote:
To be truely awakened, is to live mindfull of every moment, seeing what is actual clearly without distortion or fear, this is something christian do not have, because they waste so much of their time, debating and following the dead belief and pattern of the past..Day dreaming of heaven as if its a real place, while ignoring the only reality, in and of the present, refusing to change or adopt new ways of thinking and inter-acting with others..WAKE UP!
Not all Christians...but those whom I call Bible Thumpers, who want to push their belief onto our government and laws, certainly do.

Since: Dec 09

United States

#11 Nov 9, 2012
zazenmind wrote:
Yes its true, million of free thinking individuals are daily becoming aware that we are entering a new age of enlightenment, and leaving behind the dark ages that are rooted in the primitive organized superstitions of the past, known to the world as religion, faith, dogma and belief..
You flatter yourself, Zazie. You're not a free thinker. Your thinking wholly conforms to your self-brainwashing, anti-religious prejudices.
You embrace your ignorance, celebrate your intolerance, and declare it enlightenment.
But what is most disconcerting and of greatest concern to me, is your conspicuous lack of compassion.
Big Al

Grand Rapids, MN

#12 Nov 10, 2012
Job wrote:
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We're not entering into anything new. This nauseating lingo has existed for centuries. It's selling/promoting the idea that man is God. It's a whole other type of slavery akin to religious slavery. Mass commercialization intended to enslave man's ego.
Has marketing improved? Have people become enlightened to commercial slavery? No. It's just as bad as it's always been. Companies still use 'cheesy' hooks like "The Next Big Thing Is Here!". And that's because "it works". If sheep will keeping eating it, keep feeding it to them.
The trick of the 'new agers' is to get people to believe that there's something 'big' coming on the horizon. This works in marketing commercial products, and new age religions. A supposed new awakening, or enlightenment. It never seems to show up though.
This “nauseating lingo”, as you put it, has only existed publically since we stopped allowing religious fanatics to burn heretics at the stake.

"The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge." - Albert Einstein

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#13 Nov 10, 2012
Job wrote:
<quoted text>
We're not entering into anything new. This nauseating lingo has existed for centuries. It's selling/promoting the idea that man is God. It's a whole other type of slavery akin to religious slavery. Mass commercialization intended to enslave man's ego.
Has marketing improved? Have people become enlightened to commercial slavery? No. It's just as bad as it's always been. Companies still use 'cheesy' hooks like "The Next Big Thing Is Here!". And that's because "it works". If sheep will keeping eating it, keep feeding it to them.
The trick of the 'new agers' is to get people to believe that there's something 'big' coming on the horizon. This works in marketing commercial products, and new age religions. A supposed new awakening, or enlightenment. It never seems to show up though.
"Enlightenment"...I just love that word...

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#14 Nov 10, 2012
janeebee wrote:
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You flatter yourself, Zazie. You're not a free thinker. Your thinking wholly conforms to your self-brainwashing, anti-religious prejudices.
You embrace your ignorance, celebrate your intolerance, and declare it enlightenment.
But what is most disconcerting and of greatest concern to me, is your conspicuous lack of compassion.
Couldn't have stated it any better...
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#15 Nov 10, 2012
Big Al wrote:
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1. This “nauseating lingo”, as you put it, has only existed publically since we stopped allowing religious fanatics to burn heretics at the stake.

2. "The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge." - Albert Einstein
1. This 'lingo' goes back as far as man promoted the idea that we are gods. And that goes back to the time of ancient civilizations. Modern 'Secularism' is very similar to ancient paganism. The same concepts of self indulgence fueled by pagan religions. Today, it's just packaged as 'secular'. Back then it had a 'religion' package, today it has a 'secular' package.'Every' civilization had those who thought they were 'enlightened'. As far as religious fanatics burning heretics at the stake, "non religion" fanatics have killed millions in a relatively shorter period of time.

2. Fear is a major theme used by proponents of "non religion". Christianity teaches 'against' fear.
Punisher

Tuckahoe, NY

#16 Nov 10, 2012
Job wrote:
<quoted text>
We're not entering into anything new. This nauseating lingo has existed for centuries. It's selling/promoting the idea that man is God. It's a whole other type of slavery akin to religious slavery. Mass commercialization intended to enslave man's ego.
Has marketing improved? Have people become enlightened to commercial slavery? No. It's just as bad as it's always been. Companies still use 'cheesy' hooks like "The Next Big Thing Is Here!". And that's because "it works". If sheep will keeping eating it, keep feeding it to them.
The trick of the 'new agers' is to get people to believe that there's something 'big' coming on the horizon. This works in marketing commercial products, and new age religions. A supposed new awakening, or enlightenment. It never seems to show up though.
Majority of these sheep are bred in the pews.

I battle the recognized Religious and these so called New Agers as well. Anything that smacks of the supernatural or offers a one trick fix is vapid and lacks all credibility in my book.
Punisher

Tuckahoe, NY

#17 Nov 10, 2012
Flygerian wrote:
The way you could prove there is no God is when you create something out of nothing. Till then I will always believe that there is ONE and for you to act as if this belief is ridiculous is, well, ridiculous.
No, thats a ridiculous proposition.

The onus is on the ones claiming there is a God, not the skeptics. You present yet again, the fallacy of appealing to ignorance.

Whats ridiculous is that Believers claim their belief is proof. That's where the ridiculousness thrives...
Punisher

Tuckahoe, NY

#18 Nov 10, 2012
Job wrote:
<quoted text>
1. This 'lingo' goes back as far as man promoted the idea that we are gods. And that goes back to the time of ancient civilizations. Modern 'Secularism' is very similar to ancient paganism. The same concepts of self indulgence fueled by pagan religions. Today, it's just packaged as 'secular'. Back then it had a 'religion' package, today it has a 'secular' package.'Every' civilization had those who thought they were 'enlightened'.

----->>> As far as religious fanatics burning heretics at the stake, "non religion" fanatics have killed millions in a relatively shorter period of time.

2. Fear is a major theme used by proponents of "non religion". Christianity teaches 'against' fear.
------>>> Is this really a legitimate argument? "Your guys killed as many in a shorter period of time than my guys...?" WTF?

You guys love to fall back on that one like its really saying anything important? Is/does the efficiency of killing really matter?

Whats important is that Your Guys did it for an alleged compassionate God in order to please him - while these other Guys (who are NOT My guys in any way) did it for the State...? Both did it to control and eliminate a perceived enemy. IMO, those who did it for the Xtian God are more Evil as its clear they missed the message of their Messiah in full.
Punisher

Tuckahoe, NY

#19 Nov 10, 2012
Job wrote:
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2. Fear is a major theme used by proponents of "non religion".

Christianity teaches 'against' fear.
Xtianity teaches against fear like a sexual predator uses fear to control their victims.
Job

Santa Clara, CA

#20 Nov 10, 2012
Punisher wrote:
1. <quoted text> Majority of these sheep are bred in the pews.

2. I battle the recognized Religious and these so called New Agers as well. Anything that smacks of the supernatural or offers a one trick fix is vapid and lacks all credibility in my book.
Unless you can prove that God doesn't exist, or that He doesn't communicate with man, your battle is futile. You're always going to be faced with the problem of not knowing what is a 'genuine' experience, encounter, relationship with God; and what isn't.

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