Science, from the pit of Hell.
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Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#41 Oct 9, 2012
Hell Sucks wrote:
And a bit more, although there was much more on the page I am picking and choosing. He also has at least one book out now.
Other beliefs
Mulder maintains that evolution is a religion called "evolutionism" that is synonymous with atheism.[12] Mulder says that since "evolutionism" is taught in the public schools, then the way is open to teach creationism in public schools. He objects to the use of tax dollars to support "evolutionist" viewpoints in places like the Chicago Field Museum and the New York Hall of Science. Mulder claims that academic freedom has been compromised to prevent the teaching of 6 day creation in universities as scientific fact.
Mulder states that most theologians have not kept up with the new scientific truth that proves that the universe was recently created in 6 literal days. He also believes that theistic evolution is "in opposition to God."
Mulder also claims that there are no understood natural paths to create humans from micro-organisms, contrary to current understanding in evolutionary biology. He states that all the paleontological evidence of human origins is mythical.
Mulder feels that the "white hole cosmology" of young earth creationist Russell Humphreys redeems the geocentric theory of Ptolemy that was discarded through the efforts of Copernicus and Galileo.
Dr. Mulder maintains that James Hutton and Charles Lyell, the fathers of modern geology, together with evolutionary biologist Charles Darwin were doing the work of Satan when they proposed their new theories. This, together with the decision by Harvard University and Princeton University to change their curricula away from bible-centered studies, created the current erosion of confidence in the bible.
Mulder claims that there was one observer of the creation of the universe, and that therefore all the physical evidence supports the idea of the supernatural, "reaffirming God's Person, Being, and Word."
I TOTALLY concur.
Prove their is a Divine hand in any of this. Thats all these guys have to do, figure a way to do it, than get there.

But all we see is critique. I see no actual lab work (please provide that if you have it) no field work, nothing that these disciplines are doing.

Why is that?

PS. please prove me wrong and show me these Labs working on the process to test their Faith. Are there any?
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#42 Oct 9, 2012
- nothing that these OTHER disciplines are doing.

Since: Dec 11

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#43 Oct 9, 2012
Hell Sucks wrote:
This, together with the decision by Harvard University and Princeton University to change their curricula away from bible-centered studies, created the current erosion of confidence in the bible.
I'd say the erosion of confidence has to do with the fact that it's full of atrocities, absurdities, and errors.
Hell Sucks wrote:
I TOTALLY concur.
So you think the Sun goes around the Earth?
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#44 Oct 9, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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Terminating an embryo IS killing a human. You cannot prove otherwise. Just because it can't live outside the mothers womb doesn't prove your view. It only proves the need for the womb, to PROTECT and nourish the LIFE that is in it.

You are one dumbass, you know that?

And as far as all of them not gestating? I guess that gives a woman the right to kill a healthy baby?

When are you ever going to become a moral person because right now you are only proving to be a cold blooded jerk.
How is an embryo a Human? Where in the Bible does it say that an Embryo is a Human? Whats the Bible POV on the embryo being equal to a birthed and fully formed Human Being accorded all the same rights?

Plus, imply that the murder of an embryo, which is your opinion that its murder, is what negates the science. Murder somehow negates the findings.

There is no proof that any given embryo will ever gestate into a fully formed Human fetus. In fact millions of them just cease to function all day every day...which means your God is literally killing millions of humans every day. Why is he so wasteful of souls? If your silly theology is true. Sperm hits egg, Ensoulment commences. Embryo now equal to All Humans, and all rights apply. God lets them die within hours, minutes, days...to be dumped into a toilet, or backyard trough...

But that's irrelevant -

The science is not negated by the use of embryonic stem cells in the research. Do you get that nuance?

But I think I have another cause for you Xtian fundies. The collection (forced of course, if its Xtian it has to try to be enforced) of all menses waste to check for these aborted embryos and when found provide them the Human dignity of a proper Xtian funeral. You folks desire to control women's reproductive organs, now make them collect their menses in case of aborted embryos. Plus it gives you fodder to persecute those who are unmarried whores. Two birds!

Do the woman and men who freeze and abandon many embryo's deserve persecution as dead-beat parents? isnt that a sin? Freezing a little embryonic Human? Isnt that wrong? Does the Bible talk about that stuff?
Punisher

Yonkers, NY

#45 Oct 9, 2012
meant to say - "...deserve persecution AND prosecution as dead-beat parents."
Sola Scriptura

United States

#46 Oct 9, 2012
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>How is an embryo a Human? Where in the Bible does it say that an Embryo is a Human? Whats the Bible POV on the embryo being equal to a birthed and fully formed Human Being accorded all the same rights?
Plus, imply that the murder of an embryo, which is your opinion that its murder, is what negates the science. Murder somehow negates the findings.
There is no proof that any given embryo will ever gestate into a fully formed Human fetus. In fact millions of them just cease to function all day every day...which means your God is literally killing millions of humans every day. Why is he so wasteful of souls? If your silly theology is true. Sperm hits egg, Ensoulment commences. Embryo now equal to All Humans, and all rights apply. God lets them die within hours, minutes, days...to be dumped into a toilet, or backyard trough...
But that's irrelevant -
The science is not negated by the use of embryonic stem cells in the research. Do you get that nuance?
But I think I have another cause for you Xtian fundies. The collection (forced of course, if its Xtian it has to try to be enforced) of all menses waste to check for these aborted embryos and when found provide them the Human dignity of a proper Xtian funeral. You folks desire to control women's reproductive organs, now make them collect their menses in case of aborted embryos. Plus it gives you fodder to persecute those who are unmarried whores. Two birds!
Do the woman and men who freeze and abandon many embryo's deserve persecution as dead-beat parents? isnt that a sin? Freezing a little embryonic Human? Isnt that wrong? Does the Bible talk about that stuff?
You ignorant twit. Leave an embryo alone and unless something NATURAL happens to it, it lives...Abort it and it dies. Don't you have ANY sense? Evidently not.

And WHY does God let them die? Maybe they are so malformed He just doesn't see any reason to let them continue. Maybe one of them would have been born to YOU and He didn't want that child to go through an ignorant upbringing. Many reasons but the main one is HE is God and YOU ain't.

You say, "The science is not negated by the use of embryonic stem cells in the research. Do you get that nuance?"

What science? Evolution science? lol Give me a break.

You say Christians want to control womens reproductive organs? So do you atheists, but you want to let them kill a human being when it is convenient for them. Why that doesn't register in the abscess you call a mind is a study to itself.
Sola Scriptura

United States

#47 Oct 9, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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You have chosen to be a Bible worshipper and believe everything is says.
That's your choice. You may not choose for others.
You have chosen to be a world worshiper and hold to it's lies. That's your choice, you may not choose for others.

You are one of the worst kind of religionists. You are a hypocrite. On one hand you hold to the world and on the other you hold to the catholic false doctrines.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Rio Rancho, NM

#48 Oct 9, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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You ignorant twit. Leave an embryo alone and unless something NATURAL happens to it, it lives...Abort it and it dies. Don't you have ANY sense? Evidently not.
And WHY does God let them die? Maybe they are so malformed He just doesn't see any reason to let them continue. Maybe one of them would have been born to YOU and He didn't want that child to go through an ignorant upbringing. Many reasons but the main one is HE is God and YOU ain't.
You say, "The science is not negated by the use of embryonic stem cells in the research. Do you get that nuance?"
What science? Evolution science? lol Give me a break.
You say Christians want to control womens reproductive organs? So do you atheists, but you want to let them kill a human being when it is convenient for them. Why that doesn't register in the abscess you call a mind is a study to itself.
You assume God plays a part in this. Facts not in evidence.

As a geriatric male you have no dog in this fight at all.

You are attempting to impose your superstition prejudices on others.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Rio Rancho, NM

#49 Oct 9, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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You have chosen to be a world worshiper and hold to it's lies. That's your choice, you may not choose for others.
You are one of the worst kind of religionists. You are a hypocrite. On one hand you hold to the world and on the other you hold to the catholic false doctrines.
It's a bit more difficult for grown-ups, Wayne.

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#50 Oct 9, 2012
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>"I look at a disassembled engine and see nothing but parts." So said the guy prior to his mechanics training.
Have you had Archeological training of any kind?
If he would have read some of the archaeological finds and research within the last 30 years, then he would have the intellect to question his bible and find failures within the book.
Sola Scriptura

United States

#51 Oct 9, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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You assume God plays a part in this. Facts not in evidence.
As a geriatric male you have no dog in this fight at all.
You are attempting to impose your superstition prejudices on others.
As you do when you go to mass and kiss Marys ass. You fake hypocrite.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#52 Oct 9, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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You ignorant twit. Leave an embryo alone and unless something NATURAL happens to it, it lives...
And why are you in the condition you are? hmmm?

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Tijeras, NM

#53 Oct 10, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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You have chosen to be a world worshiper and hold to it's lies. That's your choice, you may not choose for others.
You are one of the worst kind of religionists. You are a hypocrite. On one hand you hold to the world and on the other you hold to the catholic false doctrines.
The fact that I can argue one side of an issue or the other or both does not make my a hypocrite. As you recall, on more than one occasion I've asked the ignorant hillbilly buttwipe if there was anything under the whole of heaven he felt qualified to debate and, as you further recall, he said nothing.

God bless you.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Tijeras, NM

#54 Oct 10, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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As you do when you go to mass and kiss Marys ass. You fake hypocrite.
Fake hypocrite. You're not quite as stupid as everyone says.

It may comfort you to know that when I walk to Mass I don't pray for the ignorant hillbilly buttwipe. I pray for you.
Punisher

Brooklyn, NY

#55 Oct 10, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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You ignorant twit. Leave an embryo alone and unless something NATURAL happens to it, it lives...Abort it and it dies. Don't you have ANY sense? Evidently not.
And WHY does God let them die? Maybe they are so malformed He just doesn't see any reason to let them continue. Maybe one of them would have been born to YOU and He didn't want that child to go through an ignorant upbringing. Many reasons but the main one is HE is God and YOU ain't.

You say, "The science is not negated by the use of embryonic stem cells in the research. Do you get that nuance?"

What science? Evolution science? lol Give me a break.

You say Christians want to control womens reproductive organs? So do you atheists, but you want to let them kill a human being when it is convenient for them. Why that doesn't register in the abscess you call a mind is a study to itself.
Why impart a soul into a soon to be destroyed embryo?

Why not adjust the production process and not waste such a valuable commodity as a soul? They are valuable aren't they?

Where do these souls go? Are they recycled? Is there a repository for these souls?

Since you dont know the conditions of my children I wont biatch slap you for the veiled insult, you indolent arse! Dont bring my family into any discussions we have! Show you posses some sort of ethics.

No, not just Evo science, but that related to stem cell research. because you don't like the medium, it doesn't negate the results.

Why cant you answer the Q's? What should be done with all these naturally aborted embryos'? they have souls, shouldn't they be afforded the dignity of a Xtian burial?

What about the parents? Are they not involved in the act of some sin that should be prosecuted and persecuted? Why only focus on the act of abortion?

How do atheists wish to control women? Explain that please. How does my admission that I can't make moral decisions for others, no matter the laws on the books, mean I wish to control them?

Its against the law to steal, but people do it all day every day in some form...the law doesn't stop them, but their own moral/ethic compass does, or doesn't...
Punisher

Brooklyn, NY

#56 Oct 10, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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As you do when you go to mass and kiss Marys ass. You fake hypocrite.
You're such a mean spirited douche. How is it you call yourself a Xtian? Oh, right anyone can make the claim.

A fake hypocrite would mean he's not a hypocrite. Duh!
Punisher

Brooklyn, NY

#57 Oct 10, 2012
Sola Scriptura wrote:
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You ignorant twit. Leave an embryo alone and unless something NATURAL happens to it, it lives...Abort it and it dies. Don't you have ANY sense? Evidently not.
And WHY does God let them die? Maybe they are so malformed He just doesn't see any reason to let them continue. Maybe one of them would have been born to YOU and He didn't want that child to go through an ignorant upbringing. Many reasons but the main one is HE is God and YOU ain't.
You say, "The science is not negated by the use of embryonic stem cells in the research. Do you get that nuance?"
What science? Evolution science? lol Give me a break.
You say Christians want to control womens reproductive organs? So do you atheists, but you want to let them kill a human being when it is convenient for them. Why that doesn't register in the abscess you call a mind is a study to itself.
If your God causes them to die, which you imply, than its supernatural and not natural.

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