Pope says: Church shouldnt focus on Gays, Gay Marriage or Abortion

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http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/19...

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/19/pope...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/19/pope-...

So if the church doesnt talk about these issues and stand up for the bible, who will stand up for God.
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When are you Xtians gonna realize you can not Bible-quote people into compliance to what YOU want them to do?

When are you all gonna realize that ITS YOUR chosen path, not others.

As for this standing-up for your God...dont make me laugh, all you're (all of you) doing is using your Religious faith as a means to vilify and marginalize and whatever else you wish to do or say about others. Its nothing but an excuse to attack others, while pretending to be righteous.

If your super-being God needs you to stand-up for him, he's not all that special now is he? Why doe she need you clowns to do his bidding?

Oh right, because the entirety of your Religion is made-up! And has become nothing but a means to point fingers at others you say are in your way of being a better Xtian!
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doe - shoulda been do.
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You know you are correct, the bible says what to do with people that deny the truth from God

Matthew 10:14

14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

You,all the Gays and Atheists have seen and rejected the scriptures and will deal with Jesus at the Great white throne judgement. So I will do like Jesus says and not to waste my time reaching the lost.
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Punisher wrote:
doe - shoulda been do.
Thats cool, its only the atheists that worry about every single typo in a forum. Intelligent people get what they are saying and move on.

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You know you are correct, the bible says what to do with people that deny the truth from God
Matthew 10:14
14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
You,all the Gays and Atheists have seen and rejected the scriptures and will deal with Jesus at the Great white throne judgement. So I will do like Jesus says and not to waste my time reaching the lost.
What About the Last Judgment?

Today we respond to the third “end times” question from Jean.(For the answer to her first two questions, about the “rapture” and “the great tribulation,” click here and here.)

Q. What do Catholics believe about when the final judgment of believers will take place, and whether they will be judged just for their works (see Ephesians 2:8–9)? Also, who is judged in the “Great White Throne Judgment”(see Revelation 20:11–15)? Is it the unbelievers?

A. The Church teaches that there are two judgments: the particular judgment, which takes place for each individual at the time of death; and the general judgment, which will take place at the end of the world and involve all people together.(See the Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1021–1022 and 678–679.) We’re speaking here of the general (final) judgment of the world.

The Catholic Church affirms (as noted in the Creed) that this last judgment of all people, both believers and non-believers, will take place after Christ’s return and the resurrection of the dead. There is no separate “Great White Throne Judgment” for unbelievers at the end of the world. The passage you refer to in the Book of Revelation is simply one of several biblical texts referring to the one final judgment that includes everyone.

Why would some Christians come up with the idea that there are two judgments instead of one? Because several passages in Scripture tell us that in the end, people will be judged according to their works (e.g., Matthew 25:31–46; Revelation 20:11–15; 2 Corinthians 5:10), and these passages contradict the common Protestant “faith alone” notion (which implies that God will judge us only according to our faith, not according to our works).

Some “faith alone” believers have tried to get around this problem by claiming that any biblical description of a judgment according to works must apply to a separate judgment of non-believers, since they insist that believers cannot be judged according to their works. But this is an entirely artificial interpretation imposed on the text.
http://www.osv.com/TCANav/TCAQuestionoftheDay...
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Ant wrote:
You know you are correct, the bible says what to do with people that deny the truth from God
Matthew 10:14
14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.

You,all the Gays and Atheists have seen and rejected the scriptures and will deal with Jesus at the Great white throne judgement. So I will do like Jesus says and not to waste my time reaching the lost.
You show nothing but the temperament and mentality of an ornery mule. Thick-headed and stubborn beyond all logic, reason and humanity.

I can only guess you're simply putting on this inflexible behavior and thought - as no rational being can be so dense in the real world as the internet allows you to be what you can never be in that real life.

Again, you like most Xtians like you are dead wrong - I dont reject anything but Humans like you! You are not the repository of any special knowledge, or insight, or much else of any spiritual or intellectual worth.

Plus you are clearly obsessed with the sexual behaviors of others, and have made that obsession the WHOLE of your faith.
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Ant wrote:
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Thats cool, its only the atheists that worry about every single typo in a forum. Intelligent people get what they are saying and move on.
I like to be as correct as possible - plus I know many others are only waiting to pounce on my typos...and while I often do the same its typically when I can see its not an actual typo but what the post'r intended to use...

I enjoy writing, and take pride in being as precise as possible when writing on the fly like this...call me crazy, but I find proper grammar and a real grasp of vocabulary a major turn-on. I think its does everyone a disservice to not make a real effort for better communication in the written word.

Plus I think its important for people to know what the speaker is saying, not what they might think he/she might be saying...which is the entire problem with the Bible. Loosey goosey language and subsequent translations and most of all interpretations.
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Plus you missed the real point of the Pope. He was actually saying that Xtians have to stop obsessing over sexual behaviors (of everyone else) as that's not the WHOLE of the Religion or Faith...as it appears to be with you and those like you.

Sexual whatever is by far the least of our, the society's concerns and worries in 2013...!
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I FULLY support the Pope and his message!
He is wise beyond all you fundie idiots!
Ant, go whine until you cry yourself to sleep. No one cares what you have to say.
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Punisher wrote:
Plus you missed the real point of the Pope. He was actually saying that Xtians have to stop obsessing over sexual behaviors (of everyone else) as that's not the WHOLE of the Religion or Faith...as it appears to be with you and those like you.
Sexual whatever is by far the least of our, the society's concerns and worries in 2013...!
You have some valid points.
But remember, Jesus came reaching out to those that need help.

Good Pope Francis is renewing that calling;

“I see the church as a field hospital after battle,” Francis said.“It is useless to ask a seriously injured person if he has high cholesterol and about the level of his blood sugars. You have to heal his wounds. Then we can talk about everything else.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europ...

First thing first, stem the bleeding before trying to change the socks they're wearing.
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Is Francis just Ratzinger's sock?

Or has your god changed his mind about catholcism in the last 5 years?
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First thing first, stem the bleeding before trying to change the socks they're wearing.
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Ant wrote:
You know you are correct, the bible says what to do with people that deny the truth from God
Matthew 10:14
14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
You,all the Gays and Atheists have seen and rejected the scriptures and will deal with Jesus at the Great white throne judgement. So I will do like Jesus says and not to waste my time reaching the lost.
Amen. Preach it!:)

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<quoted text>You were told in no uncertain terms to go thump elsewhere. Now GIT ya varmint!
No, I like it here. God bless you with salvation:

www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...

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Cisco Kid wrote:
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You have some valid points.
But remember, Jesus came reaching out to those that need help.
Good Pope Francis is renewing that calling;
“I see the church as a field hospital after battle,” Francis said.“It is useless to ask a seriously injured person if he has high cholesterol and about the level of his blood sugars. You have to heal his wounds. Then we can talk about everything else.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/world/europ...
First thing first, stem the bleeding before trying to change the socks they're wearing.
Jesus loves us all.
"Good Pope Francis?" He is bringing forth the one-world apostate faith that will fall under the harsh judgement of the Lord God!

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I FULLY support the Pope and his message!
He is wise beyond all you fundie idiots!
Ant, go whine until you cry yourself to sleep. No one cares what you have to say.
You would support him, for he soothes your wicked conscience!
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The Pope would be better off if he would get the sex abuse out of the RCC. A lot of preacher's in the RCC is facing jail time. The RCC is preaching that same sex marriage and homosexuality is OK. Now if that is what people call a church they got a lot to learn. This kind of sin will burn in hell for ever.

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The Pope would be better off if he would get the sex abuse out of the RCC. A lot of preacher's in the RCC is facing jail time. The RCC is preaching that same sex marriage and homosexuality is OK. Now if that is what people call a church they got a lot to learn. This kind of sin will burn in hell for ever.
No.
The Catholic Church is not teaching that SSM is okay.
The Catholic Church says that being homosexual is not a sin, but the Catholic Church teaches that acting upon being a homosexual is a sin.

The majority of U.S. Catholics support SSM.
Marriage is a fundamental right found in the 14th Amendment of our Constitution.
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"The majority of U.S. Catholics support SSM."

If that is true, it is no wonder the Cathodic Church is what many thinks the bible considers the great whore of Babylon!!!

FROM THE BEGINNING GOD SAID:

Genesis 2:24
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.

AND JESUS CONFIRMS THIS!!!

Matthew 19:8-9
8 Jesus replied,“Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

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Ant wrote:
"The majority of U.S. Catholics support SSM."
If that is true, it is no wonder the Cathodic Church is what many thinks the bible considers the great whore of Babylon!!!
FROM THE BEGINNING GOD SAID:
Genesis 2:24
24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
AND JESUS CONFIRMS THIS!!!
Matthew 19:8-9
8 Jesus replied,“Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
What the fact that the majority of U.S. Catholics support SSM is a reflection of being an American and supporting equal rights for all, as our Constitution states, defends, and protects.

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