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“The Topix Legend of "GS8"!”

Since: Sep 10

Manalapan, FL

#878 Dec 15, 2012
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a MYTH, so quit with the delusions already.
Please enlighten all of us what you know.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#879 Dec 15, 2012
^ I gave you 2 separate opinions from different view points that agree on the validity on 1 John 5:7.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#880 Dec 15, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
What does born again mean? Please bear in mind that Jesus presented this proposition to Nicodemus, an Old Testament scholar, so don't try to pawn off a bunch of New Testament mumbo jumbo.
Are you trolling again? I answered this already countless times.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#881 Dec 15, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't need to come out from behind the truth.
John 8:32- And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
What issues do you want me to address?
What proof have you ever demanded to see, and received, that proves beyond any doubt that your book of lies was written by your demonic "god".

“MARVEL NOT”

Since: Mar 12

+John 3:5,7+

#882 Dec 15, 2012
John 3:5,7

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

The repetition of amen, or verily, verily, among the Jewish writers, was considered of equal import with the most solemn oath.

Be born again - Or, from above: different to that new birth which the Jews supposed every baptized proselyte enjoyed; for they held that the Gentile, who became a proselyte, was like a child new born. This birth was of water from below: the birth for which Christ contends is &#945;&#957;&#969; &#952;&#949;&#957; , from above - by the agency of the Holy Spirit. Every man must have two births, one from heaven, the other from earth - one of his body, the other of his soul: without the first he cannot see nor enjoy this world, without the last he can not see nor enjoy the kingdom of God. As there is an absolute necessity that a child should be born into the world, that he may see its light, contemplate its glories, and enjoy its good, so there is an absolute necessity that the soul should be brought out of its state of darkness and sin, through the light and power of the grace of Christ, that it may be able to see, or, to discern, the glories and excellencies of the kingdom of Christ here, and be prepared for the enjoyment of the kingdom of glory hereafter. The Jews had some general notion of the new birth; but, like many among Christians, they put the acts of proselytism, baptism, etc., in the place of the Holy Spirit and his influence: they acknowledged that a man must be born again; but they made that new birth to consist in profession, confession, and external washing. See on John 3:10 (note).

The new birth which is here spoken of comprehends, not only what is termed justification or pardon, but also sanctification or holiness. Sin must be pardoned, and the impurity of the heart washed away, before any soul can possibly enter into the kingdom of God. As this new birth implies the renewing of the whole soul in righteousness and true holiness, it is not a matter that may be dispensed with: heaven is a place of holiness, and nothing but what is like itself can ever enter into it.+Clarke's Commentary+
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#883 Dec 15, 2012
BORN_AGAIN wrote:
John 3:5,7
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
The repetition of amen, or verily, verily, among the Jewish writers, was considered of equal import with the most solemn oath.
Be born again - Or, from above: different to that new birth which the Jews supposed every baptized proselyte enjoyed; for they held that the Gentile, who became a proselyte, was like a child new born. This birth was of water from below: the birth for which Christ contends is &#945;&#957;&#969; &#952;&#949;&#957; , from above - by the agency of the Holy Spirit. Every man must have two births, one from heaven, the other from earth - one of his body, the other of his soul: without the first he cannot see nor enjoy this world, without the last he can not see nor enjoy the kingdom of God. As there is an absolute necessity that a child should be born into the world, that he may see its light, contemplate its glories, and enjoy its good, so there is an absolute necessity that the soul should be brought out of its state of darkness and sin, through the light and power of the grace of Christ, that it may be able to see, or, to discern, the glories and excellencies of the kingdom of Christ here, and be prepared for the enjoyment of the kingdom of glory hereafter. The Jews had some general notion of the new birth; but, like many among Christians, they put the acts of proselytism, baptism, etc., in the place of the Holy Spirit and his influence: they acknowledged that a man must be born again; but they made that new birth to consist in profession, confession, and external washing. See on John 3:10 (note).
The new birth which is here spoken of comprehends, not only what is termed justification or pardon, but also sanctification or holiness. Sin must be pardoned, and the impurity of the heart washed away, before any soul can possibly enter into the kingdom of God. As this new birth implies the renewing of the whole soul in righteousness and true holiness, it is not a matter that may be dispensed with: heaven is a place of holiness, and nothing but what is like itself can ever enter into it.+Clarke's Commentary+
Well stated and so very true. Praise the Lord! Amen! God Bless You!!!

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#884 Dec 15, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
1 John 5:7
I'm giving you defenses on 1 John 5:7 from different view points to prove it's validity.

Here's 1 more.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/1john57-...

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#885 Dec 15, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
1 John 5:7- For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
__________
"First John five-seven is sometimes referred to as a "mis-translation" in the Authorized KJV Bible. It is not a mistranslation. This "error" myth has been perpetuated by some who are under the false impression that this verse (and other KJV texts) is in reference to the Roman Catholic Trinity/Doctrines. In fact, this is one of the most powerful verses in the Bible attesting to the divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ as the only true God (I John 5:20). It is said by some that this text is "not part of the original Greek". But the fact of the matter is that this text is indeed found in the original Greek. Scriptural evidence for inclusion of this and other disputed verses is well documented. Manuscripts which pre-date the corrupt Latin Vulgate corroborates the authenticity of 1 John 5:7 in the King James Bible. The articles below should help put to rest any misconceptions about this verse and other so-called KJV "errors".
http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet1/1John57...
__________
Ridiculous KJV Bible Corrections: 1 John 5:7 Scams
by John Hinton, Ph.D.
http://av1611.com/kjbp/ridiculous-kjv-bible-c...
We have already determined that your angelfire site supports 1 John 5:7 with lies and your ev1611 site doesn't support it at all. It just says people don't like KJV fundies. No argument there.

Please identify the earliest manuscript in which 1 John 5:7 will be found. Please note: later scribblings in the margins does not count.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#886 Dec 15, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm giving you defenses on 1 John 5:7 from different view points to prove it's validity.
Here's 1 more.
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/1john57-...
Different viewpoint are worthless. Name the earliest manuscript.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#887 Dec 15, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you trolling again? I answered this already countless times.
Then you will have no problem answering it again.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#888 Dec 15, 2012
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
<quoted text>
Which is just a standard fundie tact of avoidance and has nothing to do with my post. So here, try again:
"Geez...
What an arrogant blowhard deceitful liar you are.
You deceitfully omit all the surrounding verses that clearly shows your demonic "god" was taking to his DISCIPLES and >>>NOBODY ELSE<<<. And YOU are not a 2,000 year old DISCIPLE of your demonic "god"."
Are you saying that no one is qualified to share the gospel but the original disciples? That is absolutely idiotic and ludicrous. Every blood bought born again saved child of God is COMMANDED to share the gospel. COMMANDED, it's not a suggestion but a COMMAND!

Why don't you answer my post?
Why don't you share your beliefs? Who is your god? What has your god done for you? Why is your god making you so angry?

I'm not embarrassed to share and defend my faith. Why are you embarrassed to share yours?

Romans 1:16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#890 Dec 15, 2012
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
<quoted text>
We have already determined that your angelfire site supports 1 John 5:7 with lies and your ev1611 site doesn't support it at all. It just says people don't like KJV fundies. No argument there.
Please identify the earliest manuscript in which 1 John 5:7 will be found. Please note: later scribblings in the margins does not count.
You stating "nuh uh, that's not true" doesn't prove anything false.

NDanger

“Third Eye”

Since: Nov 10

You can't get there from here.

#891 Dec 15, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying that no one is qualified to share the gospel but the original disciples? That is absolutely idiotic and ludicrous. Every blood bought born again saved child of God is COMMANDED to share the gospel. COMMANDED, it's not a suggestion but a COMMAND!
Why don't you answer my post?
Why don't you share your beliefs? Who is your god? What has your god done for you? Why is your god making you so angry?
I'm not embarrassed to share and defend my faith. Why are you embarrassed to share yours?
Romans 1:16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Be careful, she is the charter member of that "very sensitive time of the month" club...which BTW, is continuous...

Please note it's always respectful to offer a tissue...

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#892 Dec 15, 2012
BORN_AGAIN wrote:
John 3:5,7
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
The repetition of amen, or verily, verily, among the Jewish writers, was considered of equal import with the most solemn oath.
Be born again - Or, from above: different to that new birth which the Jews supposed every baptized proselyte enjoyed; for they held that the Gentile, who became a proselyte, was like a child new born. This birth was of water from below: the birth for which Christ contends is &#945;&#957;&#969; &#952;&#949;&#957; , from above - by the agency of the Holy Spirit. Every man must have two births, one from heaven, the other from earth - one of his body, the other of his soul: without the first he cannot see nor enjoy this world, without the last he can not see nor enjoy the kingdom of God. As there is an absolute necessity that a child should be born into the world, that he may see its light, contemplate its glories, and enjoy its good, so there is an absolute necessity that the soul should be brought out of its state of darkness and sin, through the light and power of the grace of Christ, that it may be able to see, or, to discern, the glories and excellencies of the kingdom of Christ here, and be prepared for the enjoyment of the kingdom of glory hereafter. The Jews had some general notion of the new birth; but, like many among Christians, they put the acts of proselytism, baptism, etc., in the place of the Holy Spirit and his influence: they acknowledged that a man must be born again; but they made that new birth to consist in profession, confession, and external washing. See on John 3:10 (note).
The new birth which is here spoken of comprehends, not only what is termed justification or pardon, but also sanctification or holiness. Sin must be pardoned, and the impurity of the heart washed away, before any soul can possibly enter into the kingdom of God. As this new birth implies the renewing of the whole soul in righteousness and true holiness, it is not a matter that may be dispensed with: heaven is a place of holiness, and nothing but what is like itself can ever enter into it.+Clarke's Commentary+
All just the parroted self aggrandizing words that you've been brainwashed to repeat. But of which are just empty arrogant words that you really know nothing about.

I am NOT a Christian. Yet I "died" when just a child, and "reborn" to be given a second chance. And upon being "reborn" was given many spiritual gifts, including the true Spirit of God, and the ability to have my soul enter Heaven/God whenever I seek spiritual answers. So I can tell you are just parroting what you've been brainwashed to parrot, and are an empty vessel repeating empty words. For you are repeating the empty words of MAN to convince yourself that you are better than everyone else. And are unable to speak about the mysteries of your soul, the SPIRITUAL nature of God, nor of anything in Heaven, and not one thing truly spiritual.

You are a fake and a fraud who has no idea what you are parroting on about.

“The Topix Legend of "GS8"!”

Since: Sep 10

Manalapan, FL

#893 Dec 15, 2012
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
<quoted text>
All just the parroted self aggrandizing words that you've been brainwashed to repeat. But of which are just empty arrogant words that you really know nothing about.
I am NOT a Christian. Yet I "died" when just a child, and "reborn" to be given a second chance. And upon being "reborn" was given many spiritual gifts, including the true Spirit of God, and the ability to have my soul enter Heaven/God whenever I seek spiritual answers. So I can tell you are just parroting what you've been brainwashed to parrot, and are an empty vessel repeating empty words. For you are repeating the empty words of MAN to convince yourself that you are better than everyone else. And are unable to speak about the mysteries of your soul, the SPIRITUAL nature of God, nor of anything in Heaven, and not one thing truly spiritual.
You are a fake and a fraud who has no idea what you are parroting on about.
Thank you so very much for posting this. I personally appreciate understanding your perspective on the matter of God.

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#894 Dec 15, 2012
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
Be careful, she is the charter member of that "very sensitive time of the month" club...which BTW, is continuous...
Please note it's always respectful to offer a tissue...
Do you always denigrate women with whom you don't agree?

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#895 Dec 15, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
I do weep about them leading countless millions straight to the pit of Hell with their erroneous teachings.
Luke 6:39- And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
1 Timothy 4:1-3
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Yeah, that's YOUR opinion and YOUR interpretation of what that particular scripture means. You don't realize it, but the fact that you think you have the ability to understand scripture, perfectly, because you're "born again",(another mistranslation),
is ludicrous.(That means laughable).

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#896 Dec 15, 2012
tickedoffchic wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, that's YOUR opinion and YOUR interpretation of what that particular scripture means. You don't realize it, but the fact that you think you have the ability to understand scripture, perfectly, because you're "born again",(another mistranslation),
is ludicrous.(That means laughable).
You unbelievers' anger, rage, hate and complete lack of biblical understanding fulfills many bible prophesies.
__________
Proverbs 26:12- Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#897 Dec 15, 2012
Romans Road wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you saying that no one is qualified to share the gospel but the original disciples? That is absolutely idiotic and ludicrous. Every blood bought born again saved child of God is COMMANDED to share the gospel. COMMANDED, it's not a suggestion but a COMMAND!
Why don't you answer my post?
Why don't you share your beliefs? Who is your god? What has your god done for you? Why is your god making you so angry?
I'm not embarrassed to share and defend my faith. Why are you embarrassed to share yours?
Romans 1:16- For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Geez...

You sure do go postal when the truth finally sinks in.

NO, >>>YOU<<< are not commanded to do any such thing.

Nowhere is it written in your book of lies that ANYONE other than your demonic "god's" DIRECT DISCIPLES were to teach anybody anything.

Besides, there were so many "gospels" that were omitted from the published book of lies, and purposely destroyed, nobody knows what they really stated. So even if there were these imaginary disciples, you have no way of verifying WHICH gospels your imaginary "god" was referring to.

Now AGAIN, so far all you've done is cherry pick verses out of context and deceitfully try claiming they mean >>>YOU<<<, the fact is that those instructions were for HIS DIRECT DISCIPLES and >>>NOBODY<<< else.

Now quit trying to sidetrack the issue with your red herrings, and admit that your imaginary "god" was instructing ONLY HIS DISCIPLES. Go read the verses surrounding those you cherry pick and you will see WHO he was talking to. HIS DISCIPLES.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#898 Dec 15, 2012
NDanger wrote:
<quoted text>
Be careful, she is the charter member of that "very sensitive time of the month" club...which BTW, is continuous...
Please note it's always respectful to offer a tissue...
I think I'll share your sexist pig insult around the forums. I'm sure all the women will want to know your low regard for them.

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