What was the purpose of a Nazarite?

What was the purpose of a Nazarite?

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#1 Aug 3, 2009
In numbers 6 we see the vows that had to be taken by a Nazarite. Samson was probably the best known example of a Nazarite, But does anyone have any ideas about what their purpose was?
Its not as if they were priests because that was the tribe of Levis calling.
Were they similar to modern day Monks perhaps?
Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#2 Aug 3, 2009
angelinaUK wrote:
In numbers 6 we see the vows that had to be taken by a Nazarite. Samson was probably the best known example of a Nazarite, But does anyone have any ideas about what their purpose was?
Its not as if they were priests because that was the tribe of Levis calling.
Were they similar to modern day Monks perhaps?
From what I've read, it looks like they may have been like modern day Monks. I have read books, and have watched lectures, by Prof. Robert Eisenman,(Dead Sea Scroll fame), who claims Jesus was a nazarite Jew.
I found this info. from the Jewish Encyclopedia, that gives a description. It also states that "..Jesus is said to have been dedicated while still in the womb.."
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp...
Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#3 Aug 3, 2009
Sorry for typing errors, it's late.
Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#4 Aug 4, 2009
Angie,
I've also read that John the Baptist, James the Just were Nazarites. Also, there are conflicting stories about Paul. One story says Paul took the vow, for a time. Another story says Paul just escorted a group of Nazarites to Jerusalem.
Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#5 Aug 4, 2009
correction: John the Baptist and James the Just.
Adam

London, UK

#6 Aug 4, 2009
Interesting subject. I think the purpose of the Nazarite vow is spiritual development but not necessarily separation. The Nazarite vow is to abstain from alcohol and cutting your hair. I think some Hinduism is similar.

It is implied in the gospel of Luke that John the Baptist was a Nazarite. "He shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb", the implication being he was a lifelong nazirite.
Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#7 Aug 4, 2009
Adam wrote:
Interesting subject. I think the purpose of the Nazarite vow is spiritual development but not necessarily separation. The Nazarite vow is to abstain from alcohol and cutting your hair. I think some Hinduism is similar.
It is implied in the gospel of Luke that John the Baptist was a Nazarite. "He shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb", the implication being he was a lifelong nazirite.
That's what I read, as well. I read another article that said James the Just was called "Just" because he was a lifelong Nazarite.

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#8 Aug 4, 2009
Tickedoffchick wrote:
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From what I've read, it looks like they may have been like modern day Monks. I have read books, and have watched lectures, by Prof. Robert Eisenman,(Dead Sea Scroll fame), who claims Jesus was a nazarite Jew.
I found this info. from the Jewish Encyclopedia, that gives a description. It also states that "..Jesus is said to have been dedicated while still in the womb.."
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp...
I've heard Jesus described as a Nazarite before but that doesn't make sense to me.
He did drink wine and he also touched dead bodies on more than one occassion.
I wonder if people have confused the word Nazarite with the word Nazarene.

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#9 Aug 4, 2009
angelinaUK wrote:
In numbers 6 we see the vows that had to be taken by a Nazarite. Samson was probably the best known example of a Nazarite, But does anyone have any ideas about what their purpose was?
Its not as if they were priests because that was the tribe of Levis calling.
Were they similar to modern day Monks perhaps?
Geez... and they STILL wonder why I call you Christians dimwits, etc. Like you're sitting at a computer hooked up to the Internet but haven't the brain power to LOOK SOMETHING UP!

Here, since your mommy and daddy are probably fed up with you, I did a search and found this:

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp...

The mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#10 Aug 4, 2009
angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>I've heard Jesus described as a Nazarite before but that doesn't make sense to me.
He did drink wine and he also touched dead bodies on more than one occassion.
I wonder if people have confused the word Nazarite with the word Nazarene.
Yes, I'm wondering the same. The Jewish Encyclopedia claims that some Nazarites, such as Samson, would not have been able to stay away from dead bodies. If Nazarites were near a dead body, they had to do a cleansing ritual. It also said some Nazarites were allowed to drink wine on certain feast days, and the Sabbath, because the Messiah would not appear on those days. Who knows?
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#11 Aug 4, 2009
The theory that Jesus was a Nazirite I think is a possibility. This is probably going to be my controversial post to date :o)

It says about Jesus in Matthew 2:23 "And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene."

This wont get mentioned too much by the literalist King James only ppl , as this prophecy is entirely absent from the OT.

It does however say in Judges 13:7 "Behold, you shall conceive and bear a son; and now do not drink wine and strong drink, and do not eat any unclean (thing), for a nazirite to God shall the lad be, from the womb until the day of his death."

The prophecy is that he will be a Nazarite. Did the NT writers mix up Nazirite and Nazareth? The early christians were known in Acts as "the sect of Nazarenes" (Acts 24:5). Interestingly there is no town or city of Nazareth in the OT or such a place is not known to exist in historical records of 1st century Judea.

The evidence of gospels before mid 2nd century in scant. Could the gospel writers writing decades later based on stories told by word of mouth simply made Nazareth up? I think its possible.

Jesus was baptised by John the baptist who as we know from Luke 1:13-15 had taken a lifelong Nazarite vow. The implication is that Jesus joined the John the baptist Nazirite movement.

At the point of baptism Jesus could have been a Nazirite. He was believed to have long hair which would support this theory. Jesus then became the leader of the Nazirites when John the baptist was killed.

At the passover meal Jesus says "Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God." This could be interpretated as a nazirite vow.

This is just a theory but could Jesus have been the leader of a sect of Nazirites, keeping a sort of Judasim Plus. Where they kept the Jewish law but refrained from wine and cutting their hair to be "holy to the Lord" (Num 6:8).

Since: Jul 08

Wheaton, IL

#12 Aug 4, 2009
A Nazarite was an individual who was set apart to sacred purposes. The Levites were servants of the temple. The Nazarite lived a life of sacrifice to God.

5139. rłyz╬n naziyr, naw-zeer┤; or rłz╬n nazir, naw-zeer┤; from 5144; separate, i.e. consecrated (as prince, a Nazirite); hence (figuratively from the latter) an unpruned vine (like an unshorn Nazirite):ŚNazarite (by a false alliteration with Nazareth), separate(-d), vine undressed.

5144. r┼z╬n nazar, naw-zar┤; a primitive root; to hold aloof, i.e.(intransitivey) abstain (from food and drink, from impurity, and even from divine worship (i.e. apostatize)); specifically, to set apart (to sacred purposes), i.e. devote:Śconsecrate, separate(-ing, self).
Tickedoffchick

Enfield, CT

#13 Aug 4, 2009
I was thinking about this, after I left Topix, last night.

You, know, Jesus was addressed as Rabbi, but, my understanding is that He was not a part of the establishment Rabbinical community.
He did live off the donations of others, as Nazarites did.

I have also read, as you have, Adam, that Nazareth and Nazarite may have been mixed up in the Bible scripture.

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