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Sola Scriptura

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Ibborbi wrote:
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Actually, there is a lot of truth to what he says.
I just don't agree that there is ever justification for suicide, regardless of my religious belief.
There is no truth to what he says. There is only arrogance and speculation. No one knows what a suicide victim goes through. That is why I say it is up to God and the victim. It is a sin.
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Roland_Deschain wrote:
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IMHO it should keep it's nose out. AFAIAC my body is mine. If my quality of life ever deteriorates to a point I consider untenable I want the option to end it.
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Not suicide, this.
"We campaign for a change in the law to allow assisted dying for terminally ill, mentally competent adults - a campaign which benefits from overwhelming public support.
Alongside access to high quality care and treatment, dying adults who can make the decision of their own free will, should have the choice of an assisted death, within strict legal safeguards."
http://www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dyi...
You can blow your brains out any time you want, you will still face God for it. AFAIAC your body belongs to God. YOU don't have the right to end it, no matter what.
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Cliff09 wrote:
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And that's what makes the world hate so-called christian's whom repeatedly impose their religion on others. Nowhere in the Gospel is it written that one cannot
commit suicide:?
Thou shalt not kill means nothing to you?
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Cliff09 wrote:
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You, like the so-called christians, turn the world around: it is not prohibited in the Gospel, and
thus you can and may do it.
Simple enough???
Now you can always go and read and then quote me where it states that suicide is prohibited
and Euthanasia, too.
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- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
IT IS PROHIBITED! Thou shalt not kill.

You are a blabbering idiot.
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And where is it again that God prohibits it to killing those creatures ( for killing it certainly is) and not murder.
Love your neighbour like you love your self.
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So now you can kill your neighbor? Idiot. Murder is murder.
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Cliff09 wrote:
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Don't you get it????
It is not where he says you CAN do it but where he states you can NOT do it.
Do no mureder is stated! So you cannot do it.
Do no suicide is NOT stated, so you CAN do it.
It's as simple as that.
The almighty god can really tell us what we may and may not do, as he truly did, really: trust me!
You IDIOT!! Suicide IS murder you twit! It is the killing of oneself!

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Sola Scriptura wrote:
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You can blow your brains out any time you want,
Did you bother to read the quote and follow the link I provided?

"We campaign for a change in the law to allow assisted dying for terminally ill, mentally competent adults - a campaign which benefits from overwhelming public support.

Alongside access to high quality care and treatment, dying adults who can make the decision of their own free will, should have the choice of an assisted death, within strict legal safeguards.""

http://www.dignityindying.org.uk/assisted-dyi...
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you will still face God for it. AFAIAC your body belongs to God.
This is your belief. Not mine.
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YOU don't have the right to end it, no matter what.
Here in England people at the end of their life DO have certain rights. Hopefully they will get more as time progresses.

"If you are a competent adult you have the right to refuse treatment. This is the case even if your doctor disagrees with you and wants you to be treated.

If you are given treatment against your wishes then the person who has treated you may be guilty of assault or trespass to the person. This applies even to health care professionals. That is why health care professionals always seek your consent to medical treatment. If you refuse to consent, then they must not subject you to the treatment you do not want.

There may be circumstances where you would not be able to communicate your decision to refuse treatment, for instance, if you have had a stroke. Many people make an Advance Decision because they want to be in control of making these medical treatment decisions even if they cannot communicate.

Advance Decisions, formerly known as Living Wills, are legal. They have been legal for a long time. However to make sure your Advance Decision is legally enforceable it must be quite specific. Should you find yourself in a situation where you cannot communicate in order for the Advance Decision to be followed by your doctor, it must cover the situation which has arisen. You should update your Advance Decision regularly."

http://www.dignityindying.org.uk/your-rights/...

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So though shalt not kill unless your stoning kids to desth or murdering to eliminate the "heathens" or the death penalty you agree with ... Double minded much eh Wayne

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Nov 13, 2012
 
Thanks Roland , seriously need to get myself one of these done ,my wishes if I die for more than a few minutes then do not under no circumstances bring me back , my Mother was brought back and left a vegtable for almost eight years .. If I take any disease illness that takes away my ability to intervene with the outside world ,leave me be , my walk with the Lord is internal and I've been other places not in the natural world so Although I may appear to suffer or be in hell I am most probs not suffering but in paradise within myself for the most part and loved ones pray and believe I am and don't suffer yourselves presuming I'm in a living hell .. If I am relying on artificial means to suatain me other than intravenous feeding hey if I lost my arms. I would hope you would feed me same goes any other situation but if its to keep my heart beating or lungs breathing pull the plug sooner rather than later but above all things ask God to show you loud and clear the way to go and overule all of the above if you believe strongly enough
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angelinaUK wrote:
<quoted text>I have found this to be true. Although I haven't been by the side of one of my own loved ones suffering I have seen so much suffering of both the ill and their loved ones of late that my previous opinions have definitely wavered.
I have been by the side of the dying where there was much pain and suffering. I helped take care of my wifes aunt and when we were rolling her over to her side, her skin came off in my hands. But at NO time was suicide brought up or even thought about. I have heard my daddy pray for the Lord to take him on because the black lung was smotering him to death but at no time was suicide mentioned or thought of.

My siblings have died of cancer that slowly ate them alive but at no time was suicide or the thought of suicide brought up.

Life is a precious gift from God.

What if I get in that shape? I don't know but I hope suicide never enters my mind.

Ecclestiastes 7:16 Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?

Ecclestiastes 7:17 Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time?

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loveismygoal wrote:
Thanks Roland , seriously need to get myself one of these done ,my wishes if I die for more than a few minutes then do not under no circumstances bring me back , my Mother was brought back and left a vegtable for almost eight years .. If I take any disease illness that takes away my ability to intervene with the outside world ,leave me be , my walk with the Lord is internal and I've been other places not in the natural world so Although I may appear to suffer or be in hell I am most probs not suffering but in paradise within myself for the most part and loved ones pray and believe I am and don't suffer yourselves presuming I'm in a living hell .. If I am relying on artificial means to suatain me other than intravenous feeding hey if I lost my arms. I would hope you would feed me same goes any other situation but if its to keep my heart beating or lungs breathing pull the plug sooner rather than later but above all things ask God to show you loud and clear the way to go and overule all of the above if you believe strongly enough
My mother has one of those Living Wills, and she requested no artificial help or any other means such as resuscitation.

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Documentry starting on telly just now ...unlocking my voice is called ... A way for severaly brain injured patients to communicate... Feeling I've still got a whole can of worms to unlock regarding stuff like this away too watch with my palms sweating

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Sola Scriptura wrote:
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So now you can kill your neighbor? Idiot. Murder is murder.
Oh, ye Fool! Murder in deed is murder and not every killing is murder, for kill is kill, also.

The commandment translation: thou shalt not kill. Is a translation error. The original quote in the OT is: do no murder. Later in the NT we read again 'do no murder', as the same quote from the OT is re-quoted.

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature

Read the various error translations.
http://bible.cc/exodus/20-13.htm

If it is 'kill' than christians would not be allowed to eat meat!

MAT 19: 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Exodus 20:13
New International Version (NIV)
13 “You shall not murder.

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- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.

Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...

- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

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Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>My mother has one of those Living Wills, and she requested no artificial help or any other means such as resuscitation.
Yeh, and that is NOT suicide, I most certainly agree. Not prolonging one's life by artificial means is far from suicide. We didn't always have the means to do that, and some still don't.
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-The Star Reborn- wrote:
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BS.
Why don't you read what I stated?
I'm not talking about selfishness suicide where someone just decides to off themselves, I'm talking about when the illness or injury is just too great to overcome and there is no way out. And everyday is nothing but pain, suffering, and one grieves every day of their lives that they are dying and there is no way out.
Now it's nice to be all high and mighty without putting any thought into it, and give just an emotional response. But until you yourself have to face death or have a loved one dying of cancer or the like, you don't know what you are talking about.
Like my father developed throat cancer from all his smoking. And there was nothing the doctors could do to save him. And you have no friggin idea how hard it is to see someone dying like that. To go from an active man of some 260 lbs, to a grotesque cancer disfigured skin and bones man shaking in extreme pain that I could not face without wanting to vomit or pass out because he looked so hideous. And I don't even want to imagine what a daily hell he went thru. He tried to rip out the IV and life support apparatus twice and my mother had to rush him to the hospital to "save" him. And he was successful on the third try when my mother was out shopping. And it was a bittersweet relief to everyone that his pain and suffering was over. There was no point to put anyone thru that living hell when there was only death facing him and he would never have his life back. It was over and everybody knew it, especially him. So why should he be forced to live in increasingly unbearable pain and suffering every single day? That is just plain sick and cruel to force someone to "exist" like that.
Now I know none of that will sink in, but maybe there will come a time when you yourself or someone you love will come down with a life threatening illness/injury full of pain and suffering, of which there is no way out but death. Then maybe it will make sense to you.
You self rigteous little shit. You think YOU are the only one that has had loved ones suffer? You're just an immature brat.
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Ibborbi wrote:
My apologies to everyone. I am not clear headed concerning this topic. I can't even remember to whom I've posted and what.
I certainly don't mean to upset anyone intentionally (on this subject), yet it just saddens me that anyone thinks suicide is a viable option. While I understand the perpectives of others (although my understanding may be somewhat limited), I am still troubled by the thought suicide brings to my mind.
I think, therefore, it is best for me to disengage myself from further discussion regarding this topic. Be it made known, however, that I think no differently of anyone for their views. I still love you all.
If you let a little speck of nothing like Seenshit dissuade you from making your points it will do nothing but add to his already bloated, ugly ego.
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Kenose wrote:
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The word Hel/hell didn't exist until the year 700, approximately. Did your bible scribes have a time machine and transport themselves to Northern Europe where the word originated??
Job say Sheol, you dimwit! Sheol isn't hell.
The false dotrine of an eternal burning hell has caused all the confusion.
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Kenose wrote:
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But the original bible never used the word hell.
It's pretty sad that you refuse to accept the fact that the word hel/hell didn't exist until 700+ years after the bible was compiled.
Do some research yourself!
Well, it's in the vernacular now and everybody pretty well knows it means not heaven.

True, hell is not used in the original but we know what it means. One meaning covered. Well, when you are annihilated you will be covered by nothingness.

ANd one who commits suicide may very weell be covered by nothing. That s up to God to decide.
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Cliff09 wrote:
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Oh, ye Fool! Murder in deed is murder and not every killing is murder, for kill is kill, also.
The commandment translation: thou shalt not kill. Is a translation error. The original quote in the OT is: do no murder. Later in the NT we read again 'do no murder', as the same quote from the OT is re-quoted.
- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
Read the various error translations.
http://bible.cc/exodus/20-13.htm
If it is 'kill' than christians would not be allowed to eat meat!
MAT 19: 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Exodus 20:13
New International Version (NIV)
13 “You shall not murder.
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- The Gospel is not the way you like to see it: it is the way it is.
- Jesus taught those who follow him only to Preach what he taught them - for they can never Teach you.
Calling The Unbeliever, Confronting The Lukewarm, Exposing The Hypocrite
Do Not Follow Men, Nor Churches! Come to Christ, says God!
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/christi...
http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/baptism...
- Murder: the unauthorized (by God) killing of a creature
- Killing: the authorized (by God) putting to death of a creature
- Judging: In Christianity, the prohibited 'judging' is to execute a penalty upon another as retribution for their sins.
- CO1 5: 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
Man are you dense. Suicide is murder. Anyone who "assists" in suicide is an accomplice to murder.

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Sola Scriptura wrote:
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There is no truth to what I say. There is only arrogance and speculation.
I doubt that anyone will argue with that.

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