Near Death Experiences

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#83 May 11, 2013
John from Texas wrote:
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You have already judged me over and over again.
You should say "I have already judged you".
You have condemned yourself. You didn't need any help.

Mt 12 by your words you will be condemned.
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#84 May 11, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Scripture please. Jesus said they are in danger of Hell fire.
"IN DANGER" does not mean they will definately go to hell!!!!!!!

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#85 May 11, 2013
Jesus is wrote:
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"IN DANGER" does not mean they will definately go to hell!!!!!!!
True, but those who insist on doing so are crossing the line.

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#86 May 11, 2013
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Reasearch of Dr. Kennith Ring:
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidenc...
If it isn't peer reviewed it doesn't qualify as a scientific study.

Of course, since you're scientifically illiterate, you have no idea what that means.

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#87 May 11, 2013
janeebee wrote:
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Uh oh, did you catch this.....
"The experiment made use of the brief transitional state upon awakening that occurs when the mind has already woken up, but the body is still asleep."
The mind sleeps? The mind sleeps when the body sleeps? The mind wakes up before the body does?
And this is factual? This has been scientifically proven?
Alpha, beta, delta, gamma - states of sleep.

Look up "hypnopompic sleep" and "hypnogogic sleep" for more info.

And yes, the mind does sleep. Most sleep hallucinations (such as alien abductions) occur during hypnogogic and hypnopompic sleep, as do things such as lucid dreaming, hallucinations (such as OBEs and NDEs), and sleep paralysis.

This has been extensively studied and verified.

Start here:

http://www.journalsleep.org/

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#88 May 11, 2013
HighlyEvolved wrote:
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If it isn't peer reviewed it doesn't qualify as a scientific study.
Of course, since you're scientifically illiterate, you have no idea what that means.
And you're Biblically illiterate. You lose.

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#89 May 11, 2013
Jesus is wrote:
DR. JEFFERY LONG'S RESEARCH A 'GAME-CHANGER' FOR SCIENCE:
http://www.skeptiko.com/94-jeffrey-long-near-... ;
Again, you moron, you failed to read the article you link to.

Remember Dr. Sam Parnia? Dr. Jeffrey Long called him a "quack."

Neither of them has ever published anything in a peer-reviewed journal, and until they do they cannot be taken seriously.

You're scientifically illiterate, so you won't understand that at all.

But none of that matters. NDEs are hallucinations and/or examples of lucid dreaming, and for that we DO have scientific studies, peer-reviewed and replicated in controlled environments.

You truly are an idiot's idiot.

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#90 May 11, 2013
Jesus is wrote:
CHILDREN'S NDEs:
Dr. Melvin Morse has conducted extensive research about children who have had NDEs. Dr Morse, a pediatrician, was originally a complete skeptic. He believed the NDE was an artifact of culture and or religion only. He was certain that this phenomenon would not show up in children too young to be influenced by culture and religion.
He discovered to his complete surprise that these very young children, some still in the womb and some as young as 9 days old, had memories of these experiences remarkably similar to those of adults (except they have no life review for obvious reasons). As soon as they had enough language skills, their NDE was the first thing they wanted to tell their parents about. Dr. Morse now lectures on his new beliefs:
http://www.spiritualscientific.com
And his which was published in which peer-reviewed scientific journals?

None of them.

Did you know that Dr. Morse water boarded his own daughter, you idiot?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-574948...

Post something that's actually scientific. Can you do that?

It has to be published in a peer-reviewed journal, and then the experiments have to been independently replicated and exactly the same results must be achieved.

If not, then it isn't scientific.

Stop posting pseudoscientific claptrap, you moron.
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#91 May 11, 2013
KENNETH S. RING, M.D.

Dr. Kenneth Ring earned a bachelor's of arts magna cum laude from Williams College in 1981 and was elected to Phi Beta Kappa. He received his medical degree from the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York in 1985 where he was a member of Alpha Omega Alpha, the National Medical Honor Society and received the Lange Award for Academic Excellence. He completed his preliminary surgical training at the Mount Sinai Medical Center, before completing a residency in urology at the College of Physicians and Surgeons, Columbia University. He has authored over 18 published articles and book chapters on various Urologic topics. Dr. Ring is certified by the American Board of Urology.

He has been listed in the Castle-Connelly Guide,“Top Doctors in NY Metropolitan Area” from 1997 to 2010. He has also been selected four times as a “Top Doctor” in New Jersey Monthly as well as being listed in New York Magazine “The Best Doctors in New York” issue. Dr. Ring’s areas of interest include pediatric urology, prostate cancer, minimally invasive therapies for benign prostatic enlargement, pelvic surgery, and endoscopic management of stone disease. Dr. Ring presently serves as Chief of Urology at Overlook Hospital in Summit. In addition, he is an executive board member of the NJ Patient CARE and access coalition.'
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#92 May 11, 2013
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#93 May 11, 2013
Dr. Kenneth Ring, PhD, is cofounder of the International Association for Near-Death Studies and professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Connecticut. He has authored several books on NDEs, including Life at Death, The Omega Project, and Mindsight: Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences in the Blind.
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#94 May 11, 2013
KENNETH RING IS FOUNDING CHIEF AND EDITOR OF THE JOURNAL OF NEAR DEATH STUDIES, MORON:
OFhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki /Journal_of_Near-Death_Studies
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#95 May 11, 2013
Jesus is wrote:
Dr. Kenneth Ring, PhD, is cofounder of the International Association for Near-Death Studies and professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Connecticut. He has authored several books on NDEs, including Life at Death, The Omega Project, and Mindsight: Near-Death and Out-of-Body Experiences in the Blind.
I believe near death experiences are visions...

Stephen had a near death experience , when he cried out he saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God in heaven....

no one else saw the 'vision' but it was real for Stephen and he saw it, before he fell asleep in death..
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#96 May 12, 2013
One NDE I read about was of a young boy who was an only child, came back and spoke about the brother he met. The mother told about an abortion she had that the boy wasn't told about.
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#97 May 12, 2013
COLTON BURPO:

A Nebraska boy named Colton Burpo was rushed to the hospital for emergency surgery — and what he had to say after his recovery has people stunned:
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One day while Colton was playing he walked up to his mom, and out of the blue asked,“Mom, I have two sisters, you had a baby die in your tummy didn’t you?”

Sonja was shocked and overwhelmed by what her little boy had just said. When she asked him who told him, he said,“she did Mommy, she said she died in your tummy.”

Todd and Sonja had never told their son about the miscarriage Sonja had before Colton was born. After all, it was more than a four-year-old would ever need to know.

Colton went on to tell his mom that she was a girl and,“she looked familiar and she started giving me hugs and she was glad to have someone in her family up there.”

LINK TO FOLLOW
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#98 May 12, 2013
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#99 May 12, 2013
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#100 May 12, 2013
VIDEO: COLTON BURPO AT AGE 12:
http://www.today.com/id/45475632/ns/today-boo...

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#101 May 12, 2013
little lamb wrote:
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I believe near death experiences are visions...
Stephen had a near death experience , when he cried out he saw Jesus standing at the right hand of God in heaven....
no one else saw the 'vision' but it was real for Stephen and he saw it, before he fell asleep in death..
NDEs have been scientifically proved to be lucid dreams, not visions.

But that aside, ask yourself: if NDEs are visions, then why do Hindus see Krishna when they have NDEs?

Why do Muslims see Mohammed?

Why do atheists see a higher form of themselves?

NDEs are culturally biased. If NDEs were a vision of the afterlife, then everyone would see the same thing regardless of what they were culturally conditioned to see.

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#102 May 12, 2013
Jesus is wrote:
COLTON BURPO:
A Nebraska boy named Colton Burpo was rushed to the hospital for emergency surgery — and what he had to say after his recovery has people stunned:
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One day while Colton was playing he walked up to his mom, and out of the blue asked,“Mom, I have two sisters, you had a baby die in your tummy didn’t you?”
Sonja was shocked and overwhelmed by what her little boy had just said. When she asked him who told him, he said,“she did Mommy, she said she died in your tummy.”
Todd and Sonja had never told their son about the miscarriage Sonja had before Colton was born. After all, it was more than a four-year-old would ever need to know.
Colton went on to tell his mom that she was a girl and,“she looked familiar and she started giving me hugs and she was glad to have someone in her family up there.”
LINK TO FOLLOW
"The visions children have in near-death situations often have a great deal to do with what they already believe. Culture to culture, these experiences involve bright light, celestial figures and a sense of watching your own body from above and sometimes all three. According to Kevin Nelson, a neuroscientist and the author of “The Spiritual Doorway in the Brain,” adults often have a sense of looking back over a life; young children, lacking that perspective, tend to report “castles and rainbows, often populated with pets, wizards, guardian angels, and like adults, they see relatives and religious figures, too.” It’s hard to convey to anyone who grew up without the idea of God just how fully the language, stories and “logic” of the Bible can dominate a young mind, even — perhaps especially — the mind of a toddler.

"Uncertainty about connections between the brain and the spirit world stretches back millenniums, perhaps to the beginning of human evolution, but almost certainly to prehistoric societies, which used a primitive kind of surgery to open the skull. Contemporary neurologists have sophisticated ways to explain away the uncanny. Kevin Nelson, who’s far more sympathetic than most to religious experience, posits that the “light that beckons toward eternity” results from a defect in the switch regulating consciousness, which is “more apt to get stuck between the REM state and waking” in people who’ve had near-death experiences.

"These explanations, however respectful, won’t persuade a believer that her visions are imaginary, just as “Heaven Is for Real” will never convert an atheist. Whichever side of this divide you sit on, you’re unlikely to seek rapprochement with the other. In our à la carte media world, most of us seek only to reinforce what we already think, and it’s zealots who drive the discourse.

"No matter how much we learn, the vision science offers — of ourselves and of the universe — will always be incomplete and consequently imperfect. Stories of gods, angels and rainbow horses will persist in the gaps.

From "My Son Went to Heaven, and All I Got Was a No. 1 Best Seller"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/magazine/my...

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