CAN YOU DEFEAT MY PROOF THERE is NO FREE WILL?

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Aussie Bob

Adelaide, Australia

#2 Jan 7, 2014
TheProphetOfGod wrote:
CAN YOU

DEFEAT MY PROOF

THERE IS

NO FREE WILL?

I challenge all free will believers on all the earth to come here and

DEFEAT MY PROOFS that
God determines everything! The PREDESTINATION of EVERYTHING,
determines all FREE WILL, that anyone would ever have? And God determines all PREDESTINATION. Therefore it is a truth, that all things are predetermined before they occur or take place!
==========
PROOF 1
How can free will be free will if it is predetermined by something else?
So that brings me to this question for all those who say they have free will! When is your free will not determined by anything else?
Give me an example!
==========

PROOF 2
Name 1 thing that you cannot do or can do that you were not created to do? If you cannot do this then you have proved that what you can do or cannot do was predetermined before you did it or did not do it!

Everything has been predetermined by God!
==========
If you believe in FREE WILL and want to try to defeat my PROOFS...
please state your strongest argument in support of your case. Then I will post a rebuttal. We will take turns and follow the debate procedure of the thread till one can not go any further with their argument!

Posting any statement then assuming that it is the truth and should be counted as such in a debate by your opponent is absurd and worthless.... first you prove what you said as the truth IS THE TRUTH...then you can use it as the truth!

To further your argument!

Taking a verse from the bible and then posting it and expecting your opponent in a debate to automatically agree that it proves you right and them wrong is absurd and worthless. When you post a verse...you first must prove that it is true then that it prove that what you said is true! Then you can use it as the truth

In a debate...only what can be proved is accepted as truth!
Anything else is merely speculation!

This is a debate thread. Do you have an argument you would like to present as to the topic of the thread for debate? If not then keep your opinions that you cannot prove to be the truth... to yourself. This is not a speculation thread!

Please follow the debate procedure of the thread!

Please do not troll or spam the thread!

Please do not post anything that is not on topic!

Please serious debaters only!

Thank You!
Interesting points you make. I have nothing meaningful to contribute for the moment though. The nature of free will is certainly an interesting topic for discussion, I will say that much (or did God just say that for me).

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#3 Jan 7, 2014
Why are you hiding Dung prophet? Or you just stuck in a closet?

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#4 Jan 7, 2014
Where are you hiding CLUCK CLUCK?
anon

Chicago, IL

#5 Jan 7, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
Why are you hiding Dung prophet? Or you just stuck in a closet?
http://www.topix.com/topix/terms

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anon

Chicago, IL

#6 Jan 7, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
Where are you hiding CLUCK CLUCK?
http://www.topix.com/topix/terms

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You understand that no "spamming" is permitted anywhere on Topix at any time. You will not post or transmit links, identical content, or snippets of identical content to multiple threads in the discussion forums.
Huh

Sussex, WI

#7 Jan 7, 2014
FREEWILL is the 'choice' of an act. GOD does NOT force you to do an act. How you 'choose' is up to you. No strongarm needed.

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#10 Jan 7, 2014
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/topix/terms
Terms of Service: Overview
You understand that no "spamming" is permitted anywhere on Topix at any time. You will not post or transmit links, identical content, or snippets of identical content to multiple threads in the discussion forums.
When you're burning in Hell you will understand.

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#11 Jan 7, 2014
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/topix/terms
Terms of Service: Overview
You understand that no "spamming" is permitted anywhere on Topix at any time. You will not post or transmit links, identical content, or snippets of identical content to multiple threads in the discussion forums.
CLUCK alert.
anon

Andover, MA

#12 Jan 7, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>When you're burning in Hell you will understand.
Did you agree to obey the topix terms of service when you sighed up?
anon

Andover, MA

#13 Jan 7, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>CLUCK alert.
Did you agree to obey the topix terms of service when you sighed up?

Did you lie to them?

You do know all liars are going to heel?
anon

Andover, MA

#14 Jan 7, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>CLUCK alert.
Did you agree to obey the topix terms of service when you sighed up?

Did you lie to them?

Are you a deceiver?

You do know all liars and deceivers are going to hell?

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#15 Jan 7, 2014
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you agree to obey the topix terms of service when you sighed up?
Did you lie to them?
You do know all liars are going to heel?
CLUCK CLUCK!

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#16 Jan 7, 2014
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you agree to obey the topix terms of service when you sighed up?
Did you lie to them?
Are you a deceiver?
You do know all liars and deceivers are going to hell?
PU! Dung prophet alert!

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#19 Jan 7, 2014
TheProphetOfGod wrote:
And what we really like is that
God see's
you are not a man of your word!
But that does not bother you does it?
Where have you been hiding dung boy? Why are you such a COWARD? They will soon drag you out kicking, screaming and BAWLING! They know which closet you're hiding in.

Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV)
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

“Jesus loves you all!”

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#20 Jan 7, 2014
TheProphetOfGod wrote:
CAN YOU

DEFEAT MY PROOF

THERE IS

NO FREE WILL?

I challenge all free will believers on all the earth to come here and

DEFEAT MY PROOFS that
God determines everything! The PREDESTINATION of EVERYTHING,
determines all FREE WILL, that anyone would ever have? And God determines all PREDESTINATION. Therefore it is a truth, that all things are predetermined before they occur or take place!
==========
PROOF 1
How can free will be free will if it is predetermined by something else?
So that brings me to this question for all those who say they have free will! When is your free will not determined by anything else?
Give me an example!
==========

PROOF 2
Name 1 thing that you cannot do or can do that you were not created to do? If you cannot do this then you have proved that what you can do or cannot do was predetermined before you did it or did not do it!

Everything has been predetermined by God!
==========
If you believe in FREE WILL and want to try to defeat my PROOFS...
please state your strongest argument in support of your case. Then I will post a rebuttal. We will take turns and follow the debate procedure of the thread till one can not go any further with their argument!

Posting any statement then assuming that it is the truth and should be counted as such in a debate by your opponent is absurd and worthless.... first you prove what you said as the truth IS THE TRUTH...then you can use it as the truth!

To further your argument!

Taking a verse from the bible and then posting it and expecting your opponent in a debate to automatically agree that it proves you right and them wrong is absurd and worthless. When you post a verse...you first must prove that it is true then that it prove that what you said is true! Then you can use it as the truth

In a debate...only what can be proved is accepted as truth!
Anything else is merely speculation!

This is a debate thread. Do you have an argument you would like to present as to the topic of the thread for debate? If not then keep your opinions that you cannot prove to be the truth... to yourself. This is not a speculation thread!

Please follow the debate procedure of the thread!

Please do not troll or spam the thread!

Please do not post anything that is not on topic!

Please serious debaters only!

Thank You!
Why do you care?

“Jesus loves you all!”

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#21 Jan 7, 2014
TheProphetOfGod wrote:
<quoted text>Posting your opinion on here is not PROOF that your opinion is the TRUTH

When you post your opinion...then post your argument that you believes ...
proves your opinion to be the truth!

Please follow the debate procedure of the thread as posted in detail in post # 1

Thank You!
Seek Jesus.

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#22 Jan 7, 2014
Phoenix Ascended wrote:
<quoted text>
Seek Jesus.
Amen!

“Jesus loves you all!”

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#24 Jan 8, 2014
TheProphetOfGod wrote:
<quoted text>Actually it is SEEK..GOD! That is what Jesus said to do!
So who can save you?
Huh

Sussex, WI

#26 Jan 9, 2014
TheProphetOfGod wrote:
<quoted text>

PROOF 1
How can free will be free will if it is predetermined by something else?
So that brings me to this question for all those who say they have free will! When is your free will not determined by anything else?
Give me an example!
PROOF 2
Name 1 thing that you cannot do or can do that you were not created to do? If you cannot do this then you have proved that what you can do or cannot do was predetermined before you did it or did not do it!
1 is wrong. Just because GOD knows the future DOESN'T mean HE's directing it. The main FACT that YOU or I or anyone here on Earth doesn't know the future, makes it FreeWill.

2, yet if YOU do NOT do all things within the 'capacity' of what you were created with the capabilities to do, in itself makes it FreeWill to pick and choose what you do.

NEXT!

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#27 Jan 9, 2014
TheProphetOfGod wrote:
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This is how Jesus said you can become saved!
Matthew, Chapter 7, 13: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Matthew, Chapter 7, 14: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
STOP TROLLING AND SPAMMING THIS THREAD....
The TOPIC of the thread is...
CAN YOU DEFEAT MY PROOF THERE is NO FREE WILL?
Please follow the debate procedure outlined in post 1! Thank you!
If you believe in FREE WILL and want to try to defeat my PROOFS...
please state your strongest argument in support of your case. Then I will post a rebuttal. We will take turns and follow the debate procedure of the thread till one can not go any further with their argument!
Posting any statement then assuming that it is the truth and should be counted as such in a debate by your opponent is absurd and worthless.... first you prove what you said as the truth IS THE TRUTH...then you can use it as the truth!
To further your argument!
HERE ARE THE PROOFS...
PROOF 1
How can free will be free will if it is predetermined by something else?
So that brings me to this question for all those who say they have free will! When is your free will not determined by anything else?
Give me an example!
PROOF 2
Name 1 thing that you cannot do or can do that you were not created to do? If you cannot do this then you have proved that what you can do or cannot do was predetermined before you did it or did not do it!
Do you go to church with Suzie?

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