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Punisher

Massapequa Park, NY

#28 Oct 5, 2012
NGPM wrote:
"Stop drawing yourself a mental picture of two people engaged in sexual activiy, that won't get you anywhere forward in accepting people with different needs than yourself."
When the subject in question is sexual preferences, I fail to understand how sexual activity is irrelevant.
"First, the answer on your questian: the consummate their marriages just like hetro-sexuals do."
Uh, sure. As someone else put it...
John marries Brad. One month later, Brad wants out. John doesn't. Brad sues John for annulment. John objects. Brad says the marriage was never consummated. John says it was. Brad says no: he never stuck his erect penis in John's vagina.
Who's right?
If sodomy is permissible consummation for same-sex couples, then it must be for opposite-sex couples. And then to avoid inequality, fellatio or strap-ons will have to be acceptable (to make room for lesbians) for all pairings. In either case, respectively physical penetration or physical contact becomes unnecessary. And then we would logically be forced to recognize either mutual masturbation or simultaneous independent petting as consummation of marriage.
Ultimately marriage becomes nothing more than a cohabitation agreement and loses even any physical semblance of its social function. This is why "gay marriage" denatures the intrinsic marriage on a level that divorce and contraceptives could not (they could only taint the outcome). What two consenting adults do behind closed doors, just let that stay behind closed doors. What they try to pass off as a public ceremony, however, IS the public's business. You cannot claim that social sanction is important to you when you want to upend the society in question.
Do us all a favor and don't revive dead threads. This one was dead - leave it dead!

“Only Biblical methods will”

Since: Apr 10

bring others to Christ

#29 Oct 5, 2012
1 Peter 4:15

15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.

If you wish to discuss same sex marriage till you are blue in the face, please do not do so through the vicarious exploration of others sexual exploits. It is unhealthy for you, and it is not Biblical.

Additionally:

An average married couple (under 30) spends 55.5 hours engaging in sexual intercourse a year (. The year has +/- 8640 hours in it. That is .0064 percent of a married persons life is spent engaging in sex on average.*Clearly,* marriage is a whole lot more than having sex for those who missed that memo.

Seems too many people spend more than 55.5 hours a year obsessing over other people sex lives and that is shame and very sad. They are spending more time, IMO, living sexually vicariously than the actual married person is actually having sex. What a waste of valuable time and if that person is Christian, that is a lot of time in willful sin.

This sin is an addiction IMO, and is much like pornography. They appear addicted to thinking about the details of other people having sex, be it homosexual or heterosexual. I have not done the research, but I would not be surprised to find this is defined as a mental illness in the OCD genre.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#30 Oct 5, 2012
Seriously__ wrote:
1 Peter 4:15
15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
If you wish to discuss same sex marriage till you are blue in the face, please do not do so through the vicarious exploration of others sexual exploits. It is unhealthy for you, and it is not Biblical.
Additionally:
An average married couple (under 30) spends 55.5 hours engaging in sexual intercourse a year (. The year has +/- 8640 hours in it. That is .0064 percent of a married persons life is spent engaging in sex on average.*Clearly,* marriage is a whole lot more than having sex for those who missed that memo.
Seems too many people spend more than 55.5 hours a year obsessing over other people sex lives and that is shame and very sad. They are spending more time, IMO, living sexually vicariously than the actual married person is actually having sex. What a waste of valuable time and if that person is Christian, that is a lot of time in willful sin.
This sin is an addiction IMO, and is much like pornography. They appear addicted to thinking about the details of other people having sex, be it homosexual or heterosexual. I have not done the research, but I would not be surprised to find this is defined as a mental illness in the OCD genre.
You must understand the OP.. she is black, she is racist towards the black community.(you should read some of her blatherings on the African American forum threads!)
She is a self loathing miserable person. Now you understand why she tricks with multiple men nightly and sniff those (illegal pharmaceuticals) things up her nose daily.
John Allman

Welwyn Garden City, UK

#31 Dec 2, 2012
If a future same-sex married couple want to end their marriage by mutual consent, they will always be able to do so, by having it voided, on the grounds that each party is incapable of consummating the marriage with the other, because the couple don't have a quorum of the required body parts between them.

If one partner wants to void the marriage, but the other doesn't, the partner who wishes to prevent the marriage from being voided can probably rely upon the following section 13(1) provision, possibly citing in court, as relevant conduct, any of the sexual acts that the Bill's draftsmen shrank from mentioning explicitly in the draft Bill, as a same-sex equivalent to sexual intercourse for the purposes of redefining the word "consummation", which would have been a redefinition a great deal more controversial than redefining the word "marriage" in the first place.

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Matrimonial Causes Act 1973.

13 Bars to relief where marriage is voidable.

(1) The court shall not, in proceedings instituted after 31st July 1971, grant a decree of nullity on the ground that a marriage is voidable if the respondent satisfies the court—.

(a) that the petitioner, with knowledge that it was open to him to have the marriage avoided, so conducted himself in relation to the respondent as to lead the respondent reasonably to believe that he would not seek to do so; and.

(b) that it would be unjust to the respondent to grant the decree.

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agnostic

Tazewell, TN

#32 Dec 2, 2012
Soooo, if a heterosexual couple marries, yet they are physically incapable for some reason, to consummate the marriage, are they not married in the eyes of God?
Satan

Redmond, WA

#33 Dec 2, 2012
None of you MORONS have answered the question! That is because you CAN'T! Those that have tried misconstrue the meaning of consummation.

Sexually immoral and perverted come to me, I am your father, the father of lies.

Great question ms_tickled but they don't see it because my children are blinded by my lies and only truth can set them free.
Sola Scriptura

Beckley, WV

#34 Dec 2, 2012
Satan wrote:
None of you MORONS have answered the question! That is because you CAN'T! Those that have tried misconstrue the meaning of consummation.
Sexually immoral and perverted come to me, I am your father, the father of lies.
Great question ms_tickled but they don't see it because my children are blinded by my lies and only truth can set them free.
You got that right.
agnostic

Tazewell, TN

#35 Dec 3, 2012
Satan wrote:
None of you MORONS have answered the question! That is because you CAN'T! Those that have tried misconstrue the meaning of consummation.
Sexually immoral and perverted come to me, I am your father, the father of lies.
Great question ms_tickled but they don't see it because my children are blinded by my lies and only truth can set them free.
You can't even adequately define, much less prove, TRUTH! There is no such thing - only perception, such as your calling everyone else MORONS. Their perception (aka their "truth") is probably that you are a moron. Understand?

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

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#36 Dec 3, 2012
ms_tickled wrote:
I explained this before in one of my previous threads that the marriage between a man and a woman is consummated by sexual intercourse. God created a hyman in a woman not meant to be broken until marriage to make a blood convanent between the two so that they can become one flesh. The Marriage is not complete/perfected until then. So how does a homosexual make a blood convanent? You can't do it through the anus nor through the mouth. And when Jesus died on the cross He said it is finished also meaning consummated/complete a blood covenant was made their too. Without the shedding of blood their is no remission/forgiveness of sin. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.(Hebrew 9:22) The baby is nurished in the mothers womb by and through her blood. So again I ask how does a homosexual consummate a supposed marriage? And a real marriage is brought together in holy matrimony/union....no way possible will it ever be holy and exceptable in God's eyes or blessed by God regardless of whoever decides to even utter those two words at the lust connection they want to call a marriage. And I'm just telling it like it is here as usual. The truth is what makes one free according the the Bible. I'll be waiting for the proper answer to the question, foolish non-sense I shall ignore
The presence or absence of a hymen in no way indicates a girl's virginal state. Grow up!!!

“Invisible Pink Unicorn”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#37 Dec 3, 2012
Satan wrote:
None of you MORONS have answered the question! That is because you CAN'T! Those that have tried misconstrue the meaning of consummation.
Sexually immoral and perverted come to me, I am your father, the father of lies.
Great question ms_tickled but they don't see it because my children are blinded by my lies and only truth can set them free.
God makes hermaphrodites.What about them?
agnostic

Tazewell, TN

#38 Dec 3, 2012
Sorry about the double post - my computer got hung up!
John Allman

Welwyn Garden City, UK

#39 Dec 3, 2012
agnostic wrote:
Soooo, if a heterosexual couple marries, yet they are physically incapable for some reason, to consummate the marriage, are they not married in the eyes of God?
Why does that question start with the word "Soooo"? This thread has been dormant, until I woke it up recently, but I don't see any connection between your question, and my comment.
mad monkey

UK

#40 Feb 5, 2013
So would you prevent a couple of 80 year olds of opposite genders marrying for a bit of Autumn fun and companionship? The hymen has long since withered but the spirit still runs strong. Or would god only approve if his penis entered her vagina at least once a week? Or is it once a year? Honestly, get real. Sexual contact is a choice as marriage is a choice. It is a loving and beautiful thing for two people to want to share their lives. Let's not stone them just because they have matching genitals.
Razor blade

Oklahoma City, OK

#41 Mar 29, 2013
I am a white, conservative, heterosexual and I can be "gay" and not a "homo." The connotation of gay has been ruined by political correctness.

“theholychristian church.com”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#42 Mar 29, 2013
As it stands. Paul made comments that are anti-gay, but that is no proof that gays are unacceptable to God. Period!

I believe that hermaphrodites and gays, trannies etc., can all be christians, for God made them!

http://www.theholychristianchurch.com/gay-chr...
Ant

Palo Alto, CA

#43 Apr 11, 2013
ms_tickled wrote:
I explained this before in one of my previous threads that the marriage between a man and a woman is consummated by sexual intercourse. God created a hyman in a woman not meant to be broken until marriage to make a blood convanent between the two so that they can become one flesh. The Marriage is not complete/perfected until then. So how does a homosexual make a blood convanent? You can't do it through the anus nor through the mouth. And when Jesus died on the cross He said it is finished also meaning consummated/complete a blood covenant was made their too. Without the shedding of blood their is no remission/forgiveness of sin. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.(Hebrew 9:22) The baby is nurished in the mothers womb by and through her blood. So again I ask how does a homosexual consummate a supposed marriage? And a real marriage is brought together in holy matrimony/union....no way possible will it ever be holy and exceptable in God's eyes or blessed by God regardless of whoever decides to even utter those two words at the lust connection they want to call a marriage. And I'm just telling it like it is here as usual. The truth is what makes one free according the the Bible. I'll be waiting for the proper answer to the question, foolish non-sense I shall ignore
Alot of alcohol and a wild imagination, since it is physically impossible to consummate something immoral in the eyes of God.

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