Jesus Christ - An Unchristly Pagan god

Jesus Christ - An Unchristly Pagan god

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Since: Jan 14

Europe

#1 Feb 5, 2014
Jesus' legendary personalty was founded on ancient pagan traditions.
Most of the old wives' tales, anterior to the Biblical era, have found their ways into the Bible, but with some distortions.
Most prominent among such is the over-deification of one supposed Mr Angel Gabriel's love child, named Jesus, thereby ascribing to him a unique set of characteristics, so as to make of him a part of the Trinity.
Whereas, several legendary souls that had gone before him had been lent such superhuman attributes;
Yet, they had been laid to rest within the mythical deeps of their creators.
Osiris, Bacchus, Mithra, Hermes, Buddha, Zoroaster, Persus, Lao-tsze, Horus and Rameses were all gods like Jesus.
They were born of virgin mothers. All were born on December 25th - i.e. before Jesus. They all fasted for forty days, died violently, and all rose from the dead.
The life of Jesus, as it has been biblically related, is undoubtedly a re-enactment of those of other gods, and nothing more.
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dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

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#2 Feb 6, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Jesus' legendary personalty
Personalty? LOL! You lose already!

John 1 The Word was God. The Word became flesh ...

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#3 Feb 6, 2014
The last supper story in the Bible is derived from an ancient Pagan ritual celebrating the harvest, played out in an astrological allegory. Christianity is based on the sun worshiping cult of the Hebrews and the Bible stories are simply a collection of Astrological allegory. Jesus was the sun God personified and his birth, life and death marked the end of the age of Aries, the ram (2160 BCE-1BCE), and the beginning of the age of Pisces the fish (1 BCE-2160CE, that occurred around 2000 years ago. In the last supper astronomical allegory, Jesus (the sun) gathered his 12 disciples (the 12 signs of the Zodiac) to prepare for the Saviors (Sun) pending death (the winter solstice) AND Jesus's (sun's) rebirth 3 day’s later on December 25th (the time when the sun appears to start it's northerly track).

In most sun worshiping cults, common at the time, the sun (God) was believed to have died on or about the 22nd of December, at the winter solstice, and was reborn 3 day’s later on December 25th, when the sun began it’s northern movement on the horizon and the day’s began to get longer and longer. In the last supper story, Jesus, the sun personified, told of pending betrayal by one of his disciples (one of the 12 signs of the zodiac). The betrayer was Judas who was personified by Scorpio (the Scorpion). When the sun (Jesus) was in the house of Scorpio (Judas), the scorpion betrayed Jesus (the sun) with a kiss (a sting). The sun (Jesus) died an agonizing death, was stabbed by the Sagittarius spear on the cross, was placed into a cave tomb, and was raised from the dead 3 day’s later. The last supper was the astronomical allegory foretelling astronomical events. In the Leonard Davinci painting "the last supper", you can see that the apostles are gathered in 4 sets of 3 figures each, with Jesus at the center.
moobu2

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#4 Feb 6, 2014
The 12 figures represent the 12 signs of the zodiac and them being gathered in 4 sets represent the 4 seasons, winter, spring, summer and fall. Jesus is the sun at the center. Davinci’s painting is an astrological allegory as well.

If you could imagine a circle, divided into 12 slices, representing the 12 signs, and you drew 2 lines through the circle which intersected in the center, you would have a cross and 4 sections (the 4 seasons). This sectioning of the circle to represent the 4 seasons is where the Christian cross symbol came from. Jesus never actually existed but was simply a symbol of the sun personified, the cross was a common symbol of various sun worshiping cults because it was simply a sectioning of a circle representing the 4 seasons, the last supper never actually occurred…it’s all astronomical allegory.

- At the winter solstice, the sun appears to remain at its lowest point in the sky for three days -- at least as far as can be told using ancient measuring devices (like Stonehenge). The word "solstice" actually means "sun-standing-still. " It's only on the third day that it visibly can be seen to be "rising" again.

- It's quite true that Jesus is a solar deity. This is why his sacred day is Sunday. And though Christianity fiddled around with the days of its major holidays, in terms of the ancient myths which it follows, the nativity story belongs at the spring equinox (which is why there are shepherds out with their flocks) and the resurrection story at the winter solstice.

- At the start of the Age of Pisces, the precession of the equinoxes brought the yearly movement of the sun through the zodiac to a position where the solstices and equinoxes occurred in the constellations of Pisces, Gemini, Virgo, and Sagittarius. This was important because an equivalent alignment had been in place 5000 years earlier, when the astronomical myths were first established, but had been "broken" by the precession -- and its restoration was seen as heralding a return to the Golden Age.
mobu2

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#5 Feb 6, 2014
30 days after the winter solstice, The sun is in the house of Aquarius. When Jesus is 30 years old, he meets John the Baptist. Jesus is the sun personified and John the Baptist is Aquarius personified. John the Baptist baptizes Jesus, then John is arrested and disappears from the story. Aquarius descends below the horizon. Six months later, Aquarius ascends in the east, head first, and the Bible says John the Baptist was beheaded. Back to the story, the sun is now in the house of Pisces, the fishes. Jesus meets Simon and Peter the 2 fishermen on the sea of Galilee. Jesus is the sun personified and Simon and Peter are Pisces personified. Jesus say’s follow me, and the fishermen drop their nets and follow Jesus. Pisces descends below the horizon following the sun, Jesus. And that’s the way it is. The Bible is astrology and once understood as such, makes perfect sense.

Orion has three stars that make it's waist. These three stars were the 3 kings, the magi, the 3 wise men etc.. and they point to Sirius, and appear to follow Sirius, which is the star of Bethlehem. Virgo is the Virgin Mary, Boots, Joseph etc.. The story took place in the constellations, not on earth.
mobu2

Since: Jan 14

United States

#6 Feb 6, 2014
Truthseeker,
Bravo! What a well- researched and intelligent post!
I doff my cap for you.
dollarsbill,
Fortunately, it wasn't a grammatical or thematic error, but a negligible typographic one.
At any rate, thanks for pointing that out, for I might not have noticed it, and others like you might take the slip for a positive semantic unsoundness.
Hello dollarsbill,
A Question of Semantics for you:
What's the partial homophone of the antonym of 'personalty'?
He who does not know, and does not know that he does not know, may never be rid of his ignorance - religiously please.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#7 Feb 6, 2014
Truthseeker007,
Excuse me for my blunder of leaving out the numeric teminal portion of your username.
I wonder why dollarsbill has overlooked this obviously misspelt bit.

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#8 Feb 6, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Truthseeker,
Bravo! What a well- researched and intelligent post!
I doff my cap for you.
dollarsbill,
Fortunately, it wasn't a grammatical or thematic error, but a negligible typographic one.
At any rate, thanks for pointing that out, for I might not have noticed it, and others like you might take the slip for a positive semantic unsoundness.
Hello dollarsbill,
A Question of Semantics for you:
What's the partial homophone of the antonym of 'personalty'?
He who does not know, and does not know that he does not know, may never be rid of his ignorance - religiously please.
Your welcome!!! Thanks!!!

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#9 Feb 6, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Truthseeker007,
Excuse me for my blunder of leaving out the numeric teminal portion of your username.
I wonder why dollarsbill has overlooked this obviously misspelt bit.
Its ok!!What is a name anyway?

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#10 Feb 7, 2014
Thanks, Truthseeker007.

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#11 Feb 7, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Thanks, Truthseeker007.
Your welcome!!!

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#12 Feb 7, 2014
The Hero Pattern
This pattern is based upon The Hero: A study in Tradition, Myth and Dreams by Lord Raglan

Incidents which occur with regularity in hero-myths of all cultures:

1. Hero's mother is a royal virgin;
2. His father is a king, and
3. Often a near relative of his mother, but
4. The circumstances of his conception are unusual, and
5. He is also reputed to be the son of a god.
6. At birth an attempt is made, usually by his father or his maternal grand father to kill him, but
7. he is spirited away, and
8. Reared by foster -parents in a far country.
9. We are told nothing of his childhood, but
10. On reaching manhood he returns or goes to his future Kingdom.
11. After a victory over the king and/or a giant, dragon, or wild beast,
12. He marries a princess, often the daughter of his predecessor and
13. And becomes king.
14. For a time he reigns uneventfully and
15. Prescribes laws, but
16. Later he loses favor with the gods and/or his subjects, and
17. Is driven from the throne and city, after which
18. He meets with a mysterious death,
19. Often at the top of a hill,
20. His children, if any do not succeed him.
21. His body is not buried, but nevertheless
22. He has one or more holy sepulchres.

JESUS:

His mother, Mary, is (1) a royal virgin (descendant of King David), and his father is (2) Joseph, who is (3) her close relative. He is reported to be (5) the son of God, who (4) sends his Holy Spirit to Mary. At his birth King Herod (6) tries to kill him, but he and his parents (7) flee to Egypt. We are told (9) almost nothing of his childhood, but on reaching manhood he begins to enter (10) his future kingdom. He teaches successfully (14) for some time, prescribing (15) ways of behavior and belief. His enemies (16) persecute him, and he is executed (18) on top of a hill (19). He defeats the forces of evil (11) and eventually returns (10) to his heavenly kingdom. He has (20) no children to succeed him. His body is (21) not buried, but he has a sepulchre (22) in Jerusalem.

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Since: Jan 14

United States

#13 Feb 8, 2014
Truthseeker007,
That' great!
I wish that post could be shared across forums globally.
Fellow Christian brothers and sisters,
Isn't it now time for you to do a rethink, to reconsider your stance, and swiftly get decrossed into the fold of the Universal Religion without any further delay?
We, the God people, are anxiously waiting for you, the Christ people, to come and join us in our service to humanity rather than unnecessary, senseless servitude to an unservable God.
Learn from Truthseeker007, from Jideoni-Charles and from those of like minds, that you might make heaven here, and not in some imagined location somewhere in the sky.

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#14 Feb 8, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Truthseeker007,
That' great!
I wish that post could be shared across forums globally.
Fellow Christian brothers and sisters,
Isn't it now time for you to do a rethink, to reconsider your stance, and swiftly get decrossed into the fold of the Universal Religion without any further delay?
We, the God people, are anxiously waiting for you, the Christ people, to come and join us in our service to humanity rather than unnecessary, senseless servitude to an unservable God.
Learn from Truthseeker007, from Jideoni-Charles and from those of like minds, that you might make heaven here, and not in some imagined location somewhere in the sky.
Thankyou sir!!! I will post some more information tommrow.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#15 Feb 8, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Learn from Truthseeker007,
God warned us against it.

Psalm 1:1 (NKJV)
1 Blessed is the man Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,

A FATAL mistake!
Punisher

Massapequa, NY

#16 Feb 8, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>God warned us against it.
Psalm 1:1 (NKJV)
1 Blessed is the man Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
!
Exactly! Which is why no one here pays You much mind!

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#17 Feb 8, 2014
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly! Which is why no one here pays You much mind!
Gee, is that why I am constantly busy answering questions here? Jealous?
Anonymous Girl

United States

#18 Feb 8, 2014
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>Gee, is that why I am constantly busy answering questions here? Jealous?
Are you God or was he so desperate to get his message out he chose someone like you?

Since: Nov 13

Oceanside, CA

#19 Feb 8, 2014
There is no contemporary historical record of any kind of Jesus!! No written Roman, Greek or Jewish sources from this time (apart from the gospels) know of any historical Jesus or Christ. The name "Christ" is mentioned in some later texts (Tacitus, Suetonius Pliny d.y.) but then merely as the name of the idol of the Christians' worship . We don't even know who the writers of the Gospels were, and don't have the original manuscripts themselves either. We just have later copies of copies of copies of copies … of copies of the assumed lost originals. And with each copy the copyist usually felt free to alter details or rewrite whole parts of the manuscript.(We usually don't trust dubious anonymous sources as evidence for anything, do we?)

All the divine aspects of the Jesus figure are "stolen" from earlier similar dying and resurrected godmen, such as Dionysos, Osiris, Hercules, Attis, Mithra, Horus, Zarathustra and others. Actually there are few (if any) things about Jesus that are original at all. Jesus is just the Jewish version of this popular mythic Saviour- character in the Mystery-religions of Antiquity..

All the teachings of Jesus are "borrowed" from older sources, for example from the teachings of Buddha. Many of Jesus teachings are almost word for word identical with some of Buddhas sayings (400 years earlier). The so-called "Golden rule" can be found in several earlier pagan Greek (and Jewish) texts. The famous "Sermon on the Mount" was never held by Jesus (of course, since he never existed), but also because it was actually first produced in the second century AD by Christian priests, assembled from what they assumed were sayings of Jesus in different other texts.

The "birthday" of Jesus is of course unknown, not even the year of his miraculous birth is known. The church just stole the already popular date of the 25th December, which in Antiquity was an immensely popular celebration of the birth of the sungod Mithra,- "the light of the world".

The story of Jesus was originally an allegorical story based partly on the Jewish exodus myth and Joshua/Jesus ben Nun, successor of Moses, the Jewish Messiah-myth and the widespread pagan myth of the dying and resurrected godman Dionysos-Osiris. Later uneducated Christians in Rome, people without the insight and understanding of the deeper meaning of the texts, started to take these allegorical stories for their face value, and Literary Christianity as we know it was born.

http://www.bandoli.no/whyjesus.htm

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#20 Feb 8, 2014
Truthseeker007 wrote:
There is no contemporary historical record of any kind of Jesus!! No written Roman, Greek or Jewish sources from this time (apart from the gospels) know of any historical Jesus or Christ. The name "Christ" is mentioned in some later texts (Tacitus, Suetonius Pliny d.y.) but then merely as the name of the idol of the Christians' worship . We don't even know who the writers of the Gospels were, and don't have the original manuscripts themselves either. We just have later copies of copies of copies of copies … of copies of the assumed lost originals. And with each copy the copyist usually felt free to alter details or rewrite whole parts of the manuscript.(We usually don't trust dubious anonymous sources as evidence for anything, do we?)
All the divine aspects of the Jesus figure are "stolen" from earlier similar dying and resurrected godmen, such as Dionysos, Osiris, Hercules, Attis, Mithra, Horus, Zarathustra and others. Actually there are few (if any) things about Jesus that are original at all. Jesus is just the Jewish version of this popular mythic Saviour- character in the Mystery-religions of Antiquity..
All the teachings of Jesus are "borrowed" from older sources, for example from the teachings of Buddha. Many of Jesus teachings are almost word for word identical with some of Buddhas sayings (400 years earlier). The so-called "Golden rule" can be found in several earlier pagan Greek (and Jewish) texts. The famous "Sermon on the Mount" was never held by Jesus (of course, since he never existed), but also because it was actually first produced in the second century AD by Christian priests, assembled from what they assumed were sayings of Jesus in different other texts.
The "birthday" of Jesus is of course unknown, not even the year of his miraculous birth is known. The church just stole the already popular date of the 25th December, which in Antiquity was an immensely popular celebration of the birth of the sungod Mithra,- "the light of the world".
The story of Jesus was originally an allegorical story based partly on the Jewish exodus myth and Joshua/Jesus ben Nun, successor of Moses, the Jewish Messiah-myth and the widespread pagan myth of the dying and resurrected godman Dionysos-Osiris. Later uneducated Christians in Rome, people without the insight and understanding of the deeper meaning of the texts, started to take these allegorical stories for their face value, and Literary Christianity as we know it was born.
http://www.bandoli.no/whyjesus.htm
Hi there! Just wanted to mention that there were 2 other men, prior to Jesus, who tried to fulfill the messiah prophecies.
Compliments of:
http://professortaboo.wordpress.com/2011/05/1...

"Simon of Peraea and Anthronges were both claimants and both killed by the Romans. Following the death of Jesus there were as many as four further claimants by 70 CE, then two more by 135 CE".

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