Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against ...

Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

There are 16101 comments on the news.yahoo.com story from Apr 27, 2009, titled Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?. In it, news.yahoo.com reports that:

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#16982 Jun 15, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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My point exactly.
Sodomy is still inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
Ss couples are not married in the real sense.
But, you've admitted that you wouldn't keep heterosexual couples from marrying if THEY engaged in the same sexual practices, so that is entirely irrelevant to your argument.

_-Alice-_

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#16983 Jun 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Ss couples are not married in the real sense.
Yes they are.

“Building Better Worlds”

Since: May 13

Europa

#16984 Jun 16, 2013
Walterwalter wrote:
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why not just speak it clear and simply
all this fancy two-stepping is your way of saying you deny the power of God and His written word.
correct?
and of course the Pharisees didn't take stock in the written word then.
they argued with Jesus over it.
The Holy bible has (still is) proving itself trustworthy by the test of time.
a person either trusts God or they don't.
and NO ONE can go it alone.
Are you pushing only strict "biblical marriage" ?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#16985 Jun 16, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Ah, so you support "separate but equal." Sorry, but that's been deemed unconstitutional. Unless you think Plessy v. Ferguson was good law.
Never have gotten that far.

Ss couples are not equal to marriage.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#16986 Jun 16, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Your answer does not address my question, STILL. Why were/are people who were obviously not able to have children allowed to marry?
Sure it does.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#16987 Jun 16, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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But, you've admitted that you wouldn't keep heterosexual couples from marrying if THEY engaged in the same sexual practices, so that is entirely irrelevant to your argument.
I never said sodomy should prevent people from marrying. I said it is abuse.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#16988 Jun 16, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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Yes they are.
Impossible.

Since: Jun 13

Kelseyville, CA

#16989 Jun 16, 2013
Jesus didn't exist. Find something real to argue about.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#16990 Jun 16, 2013
No Historical Jesus wrote:
Jesus didn't exist. Find something real to argue about.
He just told me you lie.
Well

Round Lake, IL

#16991 Jun 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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He just told me you lie.
Are you hearing voices again? When was the last time you saw your shrink?
Thinking

Kingston Upon Thames, UK

#16992 Jun 16, 2013
Hello my tiny todgered tribute troll, I always spell "can't" correctly. You can't stop lying for jesus, can you?

I don't see how equal marriage rights could undermine my marriage to my wife. Just what is your problem?
Thinking wrote:
I cant wait for gay marriage to be legal, so me and my man can celebrate!!!

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#16993 Jun 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Still nothing of substance to say, I see.
How was Alaska?
Amazing.

Here's the substance: still married here. That's a reality, in spite of your opinions.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#16994 Jun 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Never have gotten that far.
Ss couples are not equal to marriage.
You said you have no problem with same-sex couples establishing legitimate rights, but you don't want it called marriage. It sounds like you support them having all the same rights as married couples, but without the title. Is that correct? If so, how is that not exactly "separate, but equal?"

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#16995 Jun 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I never said sodomy should prevent people from marrying. I said it is abuse.
And, as such, it is irrelevant to your argument, as people who abuse and who are abused can marry. So, you need to drop that entire line of reasoning from your argument. Unless, that is, you think that lots and lots of irrelevant nonsense combines to form a valid argument (it doesn't).

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#16996 Jun 16, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Amazing.
Here's the substance: still married here. That's a reality, in spite of your opinions.
But it's only a mutually sterile, pointlessly duplicate gendered half of real marriage.

Different. Very different.

Real marriage is sacred. And scientific.

Ss couples are simply pretending. Even a child knows that, because they are NEVER mom and dad, are they.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#16997 Jun 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Never have gotten that far.
Ss couples are not equal to marriage.
LowellGuy wrote:
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You said you have no problem with same-sex couples establishing legitimate rights, but you don't want it called marriage. It sounds like you support them having all the same rights as married couples, but without the title. Is that correct? If so, how is that not exactly "separate, but equal?"
They are not equal for numerous reasons mentioned many times.

Therefore, they do not deserve the same rights as marriage.

It really is not complicated at all.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#16998 Jun 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I never said sodomy should prevent people from marrying. I said it is abuse.
LowellGuy wrote:
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And, as such, it is irrelevant to your argument, as people who abuse and who are abused can marry. So, you need to drop that entire line of reasoning from your argument. Unless, that is, you think that lots and lots of irrelevant nonsense combines to form a valid argument (it doesn't).
It certainly is relevant in pointing out a distinction at the most intimate level of relationship.

Marriage is a natural HEALTHY physical union.

Ss sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning abuse. Yet, that is the closest ss couples can get to imitating intimacy in marriage.

Your idea that we should drop the most visible, physical union in comparing the relationships is understandable in light of the above facts...

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#16999 Jun 16, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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You said you have no problem with same-sex couples establishing legitimate rights, but you don't want it called marriage. It sounds like you support them having all the same rights as married couples, but without the title. Is that correct? If so, how is that not exactly "separate, but equal?"
ooh, you busted his balls. and clitty.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#17001 Jun 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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I never said sodomy should prevent people from marrying. I said it is abuse.
<quoted text>
It certainly is relevant in pointing out a distinction at the most intimate level of relationship.
Marriage is a natural HEALTHY physical union.
Ss sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning abuse. Yet, that is the closest ss couples can get to imitating intimacy in marriage.
Your idea that we should drop the most visible, physical union in comparing the relationships is understandable in light of the above facts...
But, how people choose to have sex (or if they choose to have sex at all) is not a factor in allowing people to marry, as it would require you to ban heterosexual couples from marrying if they engage in anal sex (notice you never mention cunnilingus...it's only ever THE GAY BUTT SEX), and you've made it clear that anal sex is not in any way related to whether people should be allowed to marry. So, like I said, it's entirely irrelevant, and you should drop it from your argument. Repeating irrelevant nonsense doesn't somehow make it relevant.

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#17002 Jun 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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Never have gotten that far.
Ss couples are not equal to marriage.
<quoted text>
They are not equal for numerous reasons mentioned many times.
Therefore, they do not deserve the same rights as marriage.
It really is not complicated at all.
Do us a favor and tell us which rights you think same-sex couples should be entitled to. Make it clear what you think they should and should not be able to do legally, and provide the legally valid justification for withholding such rights.

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