Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against ...

Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

There are 16098 comments on the news.yahoo.com story from Apr 27, 2009, titled Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?. In it, news.yahoo.com reports that:

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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dollarsbill

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#15343 May 17, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Blah blah blah, prove it. You and your stupid bible can not be taken seriously with errors like the following:
Your belief in Hell is not required for your eternal residency therein.

You are accountable.

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#15344 May 17, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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A MUCH better question: Why do you keep calling God a liar?
God is a liar, let us call it like it is.

Joshua 7:1 says, "The people of Israel broke faith in regard to the devoted things; for Achan...took some of the devoted things; and the anger of the Lord burned against the people of Israel" and God responds by saying in the 11th verse, "Israel has sinned, and they have also transgressed my covenant...." Yet, God did not tell the truth. Only Achan sinned, not all Israel, and Achan admits as much in the 20th verse by saying, "Indeed I have sinned against the Lord God of Israel...."

"He (David) shall build a house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever" (2 Sam. 7:13) and to David God says, "thine house and thy kingdom shall be established forever: thy throne shall be established for ever" (2 Sam. 7:16). God's prophecy failed. He didn't tell the truth. The Davidic line ended with Zedekiah and there was no Davidic king for 450 years when the Maccabeans established a dynasty, the first king being Aristobulus. Since the end of the Maccabean dynasty there has never been a king of the Jews. Second Kings 24:14 proves as much by saying, "He carried away all Jerusalem, and all the princes, and all the mighty men of valour, even ten thousand captives, and all the craftsmen and smiths. None remained, save the poorest sort of the people of the land."

If viewed together the following verses also show God engaged in prevarication. "...of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eat thereof thou shalt surely die" (Gen. 2:17), "God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die" (Gen. 3:3), "the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die" (Gen. 3:4), and "all the days that Adam lived were 930 years and he died" (Gen. 5:5). God said Adam and Eve would die on the day they ate of the tree and the devil said they would not. They ate of it and Adam lived to be 930 years old. In other words, God lied and the devil told the truth. Yet, according to Titus 1:2 "God never lies."

And finally, in Gen. 3:14 God said to the serpent, "...upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life...." Serpents do not now and never have eaten dust. If the serpent represents the Devil, he does not eat dust either; so, in either case God did not tell the truth.

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#15345 May 17, 2013
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Your Satanic post noted, O Biblically illiterate one.
You are delivered unto Satan in Jesus' Name for the destruction of your flesh and that you learn not to blaspheme.
Blah blah blah, your stupid Bible God does not exist and I will be happy to prove it to you just as soon as you are finished posting any proof you have that such an impossible being does exist.
So far you have offered zero proof. And that is easy to understand, there isn't any.

GOD TELLS PEOPLE TO LIE:
"...and thou (Moses) shalt come, thou and the elders of Israel, unto the king of Egypt, and you shall say unto him, The Lord God of the Hebrews hath met with us: and now let us go, we beseech thee, three days journey into the wilderness, that we may sacrifice to the Lord our God" (Ex. 3:18) and "afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness." God is telling Moses to lie because the real reason is to escape.

"Samuel said, How can I go? if Saul hear it, he will kill me. And the Lord said, Take a heifer with thee, and say, I am come to sacrifice to the Lord" (1 Sam. 16:2). The Lord told Samuel to lie also, since he is actually going out to meet a son of Jesse to anoint him king. Yet, we are told in Prov. 12:22 that, "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord."
What the FFFF

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#15346 May 17, 2013
Unfettered "religious freedom" ???

http://news.yahoo.com/crowds-break-gay-rights...

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#15347 May 17, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Prove you're not a liar from Satan. You can't because you are indeed a liar from Satan. You are going to Hell forever.
The reason you can't prove your cruel idiot God exists is because it does not exist.

GOD REWARDS LIARS:

Ex. 1:15-20 says, "The king of Egypt said to the Hebrew midwives, whose names were Shiphrah and Puah,'When you help the Hebrew women in childbirth and observe them on the delivery stool, if it is a boy, kill him; but if it is a girl, let her live.' The midwives, however, feared God and did not do what the king of Egypt had told them to do; they let the boys live. Then the king of Egypt summoned the midwives and asked them,'Why have you done this? Why have you let the boys live?' The midwives answered Pharaoh,'Hebrew women are not like Egyptian women; they are vigorous and give birth before the midwives arrive.' So God was kind to the midwives and the people increased and became even more numerous." The midwives lied and God rewarded them by being kind to them.

Joshua 2:3-6 says, "So the king of Jericho sent this message to Rahab,'Bring out the men who came to you and entered your house, because they have come to spy out the whole land.' But the woman had taken the two men and hidden them. She said,'Yes, the men came to me, but I did not know where they had come from. At dusk, when it was time to close the city gate, the men left. I don't know which way they went. Go after them quickly. You may catch up with them." (But she had taken them up to the roof and hidden them under the stalks of flax she had laid out on the roof.) Rahab lied about where the men were and yet James 2:25 says, "...was not Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction?"

And 2 Kings 10:18-21 says, "Jehu brought all the people together and said to them,'Ahab served Baal a little; Jehu will serve him much. Now summon all the prophets of Baal, all his ministers and all his priests. See that no one is missing, because I am going to hold a great sacrifice for Baal. Anyone who fails to come will no longer live. But Jehu was acting deceptively in order to destroy the ministers of Baal.... all the ministers of Baal came; not one stayed away. They crowded into the temple of Baal until it was full from one end to the other." And as verses 25 to 30 show Jehu ordered his guards to go in and kill all those who worshipped Baal. After the bloodshed and killing had concluded the Lord said to Jehu in verse 30, "Because you have done well in accomplishing what is right in my eyes and have done to the house of Ahab all I had in mind to do, your descendants will sit on the throne of Israel to the 4th generation." How is that for a God of mercy!

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#15348 May 17, 2013
What the FFFF wrote:
Unfettered "religious freedom" ???
http://news.yahoo.com/crowds-break-gay-rights...
I realy hate yahoo news stories because in the comment section all the mean nasty homophobes vent all their hate and Yahoo REFUSES to inforce their rules against it. It is a huge bummer to see all the Christian hate and no way to counter it like here at Topix.

Why not take the article and start a new topix thread?

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#15349 May 17, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text> You are accountable.
And you have no proof of any kind that such a being as you insist upon actually exists. So why should any one believe a word out of your mouth, especially when no one can tell any difference between what comes out of it and what comes out of your ass?

GOD DECEIVES: "O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived...." (Jer. 20:7).
"if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel" (Ezek. 14:9).
"Ah, Lord God! Surely thou hast greatly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, Ye shall have peace; whereas the sword reaches unto the soul" (Jer. 4:10).
"...God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness" (2 Thess. 2:9-12). See also: 2 Chron. 18:18-22, 1 Kings 22:20-23 and Jer. 15:18.

dollarsbill

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#15350 May 17, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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God is a liar, let us call it like it is.
Your Biblical ignorance overrules your Satanic, ignorant comment. LOL!

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#15351 May 17, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Prove you're not a liar from Satan. You can't because you are indeed a liar from Satan. You are going to Hell forever.
You can't read and you can't learn, all you can do is "polly want a cracker".

Everything you think you know is just lies your mamma and pappa told you, hearsay.

Santa has a message for all the little children of the world:

SANTA: Dear children, some day you will learn everything there is to know about Santa, and on that day, I want you to remember what the adults told you about Jesus.

dollarsbill

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#15352 May 17, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Blah blah blah,
IOW, you are lost, without hope, and going to Hell FOREVER, just as God said.

dollarsbill

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#15353 May 17, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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And you have no proof of any kind that such a being as you insist upon actually exists. So why should any one believe a word out of your mouth, especially when no one can tell any difference between what comes out of it and what comes out of your ass?
GOD DECEIVES: "O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived...." (Jer. 20:7).
"if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel" (Ezek. 14:9).
"Ah, Lord God! Surely thou hast greatly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, Ye shall have peace; whereas the sword reaches unto the soul" (Jer. 4:10).
"...God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness" (2 Thess. 2:9-12). See also: 2 Chron. 18:18-22, 1 Kings 22:20-23 and Jer. 15:18.
Poor little child of Satan heading for Hell, can't help anyone, not even itself. When you get to Hell you will be forgotten FOREVER. You lose.

dollarsbill

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#15354 May 17, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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You can't read and you can't learn, all you can do is "polly want a cracker".
Everything you think you know is just lies your mamma and pappa told you, hearsay.
Santa has a message for all the little children of the world:
SANTA: Dear children, some day you will learn everything there is to know about Santa, and on that day, I want you to remember what the adults told you about Jesus.
Are you as ignorant as your post?

Answer: Yes or Yes.

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#15355 May 17, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Your Biblical ignorance overrules your Satanic, ignorant comment. LOL!
Blah blah blah. All I do is quote the stupid Bible, so you are right that the Bible is a collection of ignorant fairy tales.

If Jesus and the Holy Ghost are God, if the Trinity is valid, then Jesus' relationship to Mary is utterly paradoxical:
•(1) If he was born of Mary, she was his mother;
•(2) She "being with child by the Holy Ghost," and Father, Son and Holy Ghost being one, she was his wife;
•(3) God, being the Father of all mankind, and God and Christ being one, she was his daughter;
•(4) She, being the daughter of God, and Jesus being the Son of God, she was his sister.

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#15356 May 17, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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IOW, you are lost, without hope, and going to Hell FOREVER, just as God said.
You do not give a shit what this alledged Biblegod of yours says because you give God the finger every time you refuse to obey what you are required to obey to be a real Christian, so you, like all the others are fake Christians;

A true follower of Jesus would have to be extremely poor--as poor as the proverbial churchmouse. The Bible makes this quite clear:
•(a) "...none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up everything he has" (Luke 14:33);
•(b) "If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor and you will have riches in heaven" (Matt. 19:21);
•(c) "Sell your possessions and give alms" (Luke 12:33);
•(d) "But give what is in your cups and plates to the poor, and everything will be clean for you" (Luke 11:41);
•(e) "Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt,.... But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven.... for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also" (Matt. 6:19-21);
•(f) "How hardly shall they that have riches enter to the kingdom of God" (Mark 10:23);
•(g) "Truly, I say to you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" (Matt. 19:23-24);
•(h) A certain ruler told Jesus that he had obeyed all the commandments from his youth up. But, Jesus said, "Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me" (Luke 18:22, Mark 10:21),
•and (i) Paul said, "For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as refuse, in order that I may gain Christ" (Phil. 3:8 RSV)

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#15357 May 17, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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Are you as ignorant as your post?
Answer: Yes or Yes.
You can not refute the truth of each and everyone of my posts. All you can do is lie and stir up dissension:

Prov. 6:16 says, "there are 6 things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him" and the 19th verse says one of these is, "...a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers."

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#15358 May 17, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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blah blah blah snipped
Everyone can see by your stupid and ignorant replies dollarsbill that you haven't a clue how to refute my truth.

The Bible can not be trusted to tell us about homosexuality.

Gen. 22:1 ("And it came to pass after these things that God did tempt Abraham....")

versus

James 1:13 ("For God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man")

Are you so retarded that you can't see how everything I post makes you look completely stupid?

dollarsbill

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#15359 May 17, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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You can not refute the truth of each and everyone of my posts.
I can. You will burn in Hell fire forever. You will be forgotten FOREVER.

dollarsbill

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#15360 May 17, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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You can not refute the truth of each and everyone of my posts. All you can do is lie and stir up dissension:
I don't need to refute your Biblically ignorant, illiterate posts. You do it for me. You're just another of Satan's children heading for Hell fire FOREVER.

dollarsbill

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#15361 May 17, 2013
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Everyone can see
You speak for Satan's Biblically ignorant children? They might resent that.

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#15362 May 17, 2013
The L/G lifestyle goes against God's word.
Romans 1 shows this clearly.
The issue is NOT allowing them to attend, but condoning their lifestyle by allowing them to enter into membership or actually marrying them. We have no reason to hate them or discriminate against them in our democratic society, as they should be allowed the rights of ANY citizen. That does NOT mean they have any rights as a Christian. We don't have rights, we have responsibilities, which include obeying God and His Word.
That may pit some churches who foster this aberration against those that do not.
Mostly it brings the hate mongers out of the Church.

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