Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against ...

Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

There are 16097 comments on the news.yahoo.com story from Apr 27, 2009, titled Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?. In it, news.yahoo.com reports that:

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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Truth

Leesburg, VA

#14699 May 4, 2013
snyper wrote:
For those who want a little actual info ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tddCNY6U77YXX
Wait a minute.....

I thought you were NOT going to post on here anymore....

What's up???
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#14700 May 4, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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It is stupidity like yours that is causing people to leave all churches. Keep up the good work.
Big Smile
Without a knowledge of God's Word, a person has.....

No real direction or guidance in life.....

No true joy or peace in life.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#14701 May 4, 2013
How many churches are "dying on the vine," or into wholesale apostasy because their members cannot discern between truth and error.....?
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#14702 May 4, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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The reason God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?
Ezekiel 16:49-50, 49 "Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had PRIDE, EXCESS OF FOOD, and PROSPEROUS EASE, but DID NOT AID THE POOR AND NEEDY. 50 They were HAUGHTY and did an ABOMINATION before me. So I removed them, when I saw it."
The writer uses the word ABOMINATION, Hebrew tow'ebah, Strong #H8441,(a disgusting thing) the same word in the Hebrew that is used to describe HOMOSEXUALITY in
Leviticus 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an ABOMINATION."
The sin in Sodom was on a grand scale, and included more than just homosexual behavior; but this does not take away from the scriptural proof that the event that occurred at Lot's home was driven by the burning homosexual appetites of the men of Sodom.
You said, quote, "God would never commit mass murder." End quote.
Genesis 6:17-18, 17 "For behold, I will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life under heaven. Everything that is on the earth shall die. 18 But I will establish my covenant with you, and you shall come into the ark, you, your sons, your wife, and your sons' wives with you."
If you think this is just a STORY....you do not know the God of the Bible.
snyper wrote:
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If you believe Saul, then such things are the causes of homosexuality, not the result of it. In other words, when a society becomes so materialistic and predatory, it will produce gay people.
Kind of silly, isn't it?
Saul? Where can I find Saul in my post listed above your response.

Actually what is "kind of silly" is your interpretation.
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#14703 May 4, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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How can an adult believe that story? An adult can't but an adult Christian can and does.
You said, quote, "Do you hate god for making you the way you are?" End quote.
God does not make mistakes. God's creation does make mistakes. If you are a homosexual you made a conscious free choice to be homosexual. Nobody is born a homosexual. There is no homosexual gene. There are homosexuals using the excuse "God made me that way" to justify their behavior. Your behavior is your choice not God's choice for you.
snyper wrote:
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That's known as the "Pathetic Fallacy"; i.e. ascribing intelligent intent where there is none, especially to inanimate objects.
Nature makes no mistakes only because "it" has no intent to do anything.
Your response lacks substance and truth. Again, check my post above your response. There is no reference to nature. Might I suggest you re-read the post before responding?
OldJG

Rockford, IL

#14704 May 4, 2013
OldJG wrote:
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Why lie? There is no need. If you are a sodomite just fess up and tell the world being homosexual was your choice. It is that simple.
The sodomite and lesbian Gospel's most solid argument supporting their theory that the sin in Sodom was not homosexuality is based on this verse:
Ezekiel 16:49, "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."
But what they so conveniently neglect to do is provide is the very next verse:
Ezekiel 16:50, "And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good."
The writer uses the word abomination, Hebrew [tow'ebah], the same word in the Hebrew that is used to describe homosexuality in Leviticus 18:22! The sin in Sodom was on a grand scale, and included more than just homosexual behavior; but this does not take away from the scriptural proof that the event that occurred at Lot's home was driven by the burning homosexual appetites of the men of Sodom.
snyper wrote:
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Just for you, in case you haven't read them yet ...
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13827-...
http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/10122-...
And you, too, can try to remember that it is THEIR story, and they have been studying it for about 3000 yrs, or so. You may also elect to recall that "Jude" is a suspect source because it cites as it's authorities writings that were not considered canonical even in Judaism.
It is their story? Isn't it our story when God made it part of His word in the Bible. Are you suggesting the Bible is for the Jews only?

Your said, quote, "they have been studying it for about 3000 yrs," End quote.

Who is "they"? The Pharisees'?

Jude? My post is above your response. Do you find Jude mentioned in the post?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#14705 May 4, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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So you are saying God destroyed an entire city because of inhospitality.
Oh, and Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt because she was going to miss inhospitality.
That makes sense to you? I'm shocked...
Smirk.
What commandments were in effect at the time the alleged incident took place?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#14706 May 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Thank you. Exactly!!!

Now please tell us how wickedness is determined. Keep in mind, there are two covenants and the Law of Moses does not exist in the Book of Genesis. If you brought into a court and judged but there was no existent law in effect, would that be justice?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#14707 May 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Without a knowledge of God's Word, a person has.....
No real direction or guidance in life.....
No true joy or peace in life.
Where does one find God's Word?

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#14708 May 4, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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We all have it coming. You too will die someday and never see anyone you know in the world again. Enjoy your blissful fantasy while you can.
Satanic lies.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#14709 May 4, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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If salvation exists, I'm saved already. Otherwise, what difference does it make?
You believe in Jesus of the Bible? If not you will burn in Hell, forever.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#14710 May 4, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Don't you ever get tired of posting lies?
Jeremiah 3:12 ...I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever.
Even if Hell existed anywhere outside your feeble imagination, it would not be forever...
Your Biblical illiteracy noted, again and again ....

"everlasting fire"

Matthew 25:41 (NKJV)
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand,'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

You clearly don't believe in Jesus of the Bible.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#14711 May 4, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Southern California has frequent fires. On of the techniques used to fight those fires is the lighting of back fires to burn out the fuel ahead of the wild fire.
Man, wrong in the real world as well as in your little fantasy world. Must suck to be you. I feel sorry for you.
When your body feels the eternal fire you will sing a different tune. It will be a wail.

Matthew 13:49-50 (NKJV)
49 So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, 50 and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

God won't ask your permission.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#14712 May 4, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
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You believe in Jesus of the Bible? If not you will burn in Hell, forever.
Sorry. Not buying that kettle of fish today bro.

dollarsbill

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#14713 May 4, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Sorry. Not buying that kettle of fish today bro.
Not selling, just warning of your fate in the eternal Hell fire. Judgment Day is at hand.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Wilson, NC

#14714 May 4, 2013
Judgment day is every day for you, Poopy Shorts.
dollarsbill wrote:
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Not selling, just warning of your fate in the eternal Hell fire. Judgment Day is at hand.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#14722 May 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Wait a minute.....
I thought you were NOT going to post on here anymore....
What's up???
I'm filling time during stages of my journey where web access is available.(read my avatar) After I return to Ireland this time, it's over. In another 3 hrs, I'll be celebrating Pascha with two of my kids. ROC Easter is grand liturgy, if a bit hard on the arches, and Easter feast on the Don and Black Sea coast is an epicurean delight. Surpassing all will be the time with my twins and their family.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#14723 May 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
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Without a knowledge of God's Word, a person has.....
No real direction or guidance in life.....
No true joy or peace in life.
Watch the vid I posted. It places a different emphasis upon "knowledge". I really don't think that you'll be disappointed.

Careful though, you're starting to sound gnostic (salvation through knowledge).

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#14725 May 4, 2013
Truth wrote:
How many churches are "dying on the vine," or into wholesale apostasy because their members cannot discern between truth and error.....?
I suspect that your criteria for discernment may be off. Try viewing a congregation based upon manifestations of the fruits of the holy spirit of truth among the congregants, rather than your doctrinal prejudices. Not the "gifts". The FRUITS. They should be your a major part of your litmus testing.

Also, your question is the Apophatic Fallacy, or Argument by Innuendo.

"... Apophasis or argument by innuendo involves implicitly suggesting a conclusion without stating it outright. For example, a job reference that says a former employee "was never caught taking money from the cash box." In this example the overly specific nature of the innuendo implies that the employee was a thief, even though it does not make (or justify) a direct statement of accusation ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy#Apophasi...

One of the fruits, according to your prophet Saul, is self-control or discipline.

Practice a little.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#14726 May 4, 2013
OldJG wrote:
OldJG wrote:
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The reason God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?
Ezekiel 16:49-50, 49 "Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had PRIDE, EXCESS OF FOOD, and PROSPEROUS EASE, but DID NOT AID THE POOR AND NEEDY. 50 They were HAUGHTY and did an ABOMINATION before me. So I removed them, when I saw it."
The writer uses the word ABOMINATION, Hebrew tow'ebah, Strong #H8441,(a disgusting thing) the same word in the Hebrew that is used to describe HOMOSEXUALITY in
Leviticus 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an ABOMINATION."
The sin in Sodom was on a grand scale, and included more than just homosexual behavior; but this does not take away from the scriptural proof that the event that occurred at Lot's home was driven by the burning homosexual appetites of the men of Sodom.
You said, quote, "God would never commit mass murder." End quote.
Genesis 6:17-18, 17 "For behold, I will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life under heaven. Everything that is on the earth shall die. 18 But I will establish my covenant with you, and you shall come into the ark, you, your sons, your wife, and your sons' wives with you."
If you think this is just a STORY....you do not know the God of the Bible.
<quoted text>
Saul? Where can I find Saul in my post listed above your response.
Actually what is "kind of silly" is your interpretation.
It's not my interpretation.

Oh. About the flood ... it was at best regional, not global.

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