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Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

There are 16097 comments on the news.yahoo.com story from Apr 27, 2009, titled Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?. In it, news.yahoo.com reports that:

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#12704 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>The woman was created to be a suitable companion for the man.

The woman is seen as the crown of creation--that which not merely completes creation, but prompts the benediction that now finally all was VERY GOOD!

Common sense???
So the woman is inferior is what you are saying. Made for reproduction like a bitch in a puppy mill? There for the mans pleasure. You sound so Stone Age.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#12705 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>Man has no capacity in himself to restrain the weeds of his sinfulness or to cultivate the good produce of righteousness.
Stop with your religious babble. Not everyone shares your beliefs. That's what they are is beliefs not facts.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#12706 Apr 8, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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If you weren't religious, would you be raping, killing, and stealing?
Common sense clicks in....no I would not be raping, killing, and stealing.....

As well as common sense when it comes to same sex marriages....

As Judge Judy says, "if it doesn't make SENSE, it is NOT true."

If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist.

Objective moral values do exist.

Therefore, God exists.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#12707 Apr 8, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you even taken high school science. You can't prove something does not exist but you can prove they do. Where is your evidence the burden of proof is on you not me.
Example: I have a frog with 39 eyes and 75 legs. Prove it does not exist??
If you're sincerely seeking God, God will make His existence evident to you.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#12708 Apr 8, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
So the woman is inferior is what you are saying. Made for reproduction like a bitch in a puppy mill? There for the mans pleasure. You sound so Stone Age.
If people persist in believing lies about God and life.... the truth becomes harder and harder to recognize until it no longer can be.
Truth

Leesburg, VA

#12709 Apr 8, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop with your religious babble. Not everyone shares your beliefs. That's what they are is beliefs not facts.
It is one of the grim facts of life that the more one sins, the easier it is to sin.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#12713 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Common sense clicks in....no I would not be raping, killing, and stealing.....
As well as common sense when it comes to same sex marriages....
As Judge Judy says, "if it doesn't make SENSE, it is NOT true."
If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist.
Objective moral values do exist.
Therefore, God exists.
Atheists have good moral values.

That just shot your whole theory.

Next.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#12714 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
If you're sincerely seeking God, God will make His existence evident to you.
No one shall seek God of their own accord. He either calls you or He doesn't call you.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#12715 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
If people persist in believing lies about God and life.... the truth becomes harder and harder to recognize until it no longer can be.
Repeat to yourself in the mirror.

Then say "Candyman" three times.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#12716 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>If you're sincerely seeking God, God will make His existence evident to you.
Can you have a discussion without spewing your religious crap. Think for yourself stop repeating what has been brainwashed into your thick skull.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#12717 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>If people persist in believing lies about God and life.... the truth becomes harder and harder to recognize until it no longer can be.
You can't ever answer a question or debate something. Just preaching.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#12718 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>It is one of the grim facts of life that the more one sins, the easier it is to sin.
Blah blah blah.

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#12719 Apr 8, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Morality and Religion, now that's an oximoron. It seems that you have neglected to read all of the bible, or you have omitted the sections of the bible that leave a puke taste in your mouth.
It seems religious folks only apply the portion of their sacred book that they want to.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12721 Apr 8, 2013
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
Unlike the Constitution adopted by our forefathers, the New Testament is NOT subject to amendment.
Have you bothered to even take a brief look at the history of how that anthologies were compiled?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12722 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>So Jarboy, why do you exist?
Why does it matter if anyone has 'rights'?
What moral code dictates any such thing?
Lets see you think without copy and pasting.
Smile.
<quoted text>
You are a product of nature (your words). Survival of the fittest. You live, you die, you are no more.
There is no moral code. There are no inherent rights. The only thing that matters is to survive. Whatever you can get away with is okay. You can steal, murder, lie, deprive others of their supposed rights if it enhances your ability to survive. If life gets too difficult, the sensible thing to do is end it rather than suffer.
Common sense would also dictate that if someone in a 'pack' is injured, defective or unprofitable, they should be eliminated.
That Jarboy is the logical conclusion of your world view.
And you mock religion?
Smirk.
The inherent "right" of everything that exists is Freedom, innate and absolute.

Rights are aspects of absolute Freedom that are guaranteed and protected by the Government.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12723 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I don't, nature does;
At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
ss couples are a defective, contradictive failure.
Couples delaying or not having children have never been a problem before. Why now, just so an imposter desolate relationship can impose themselves marriage?
Meanwhile, you have no answer for my analogy;
The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
An apple tree bearing fruit.
An apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
A walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be an apple tree.
A walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be an apple tree.
Even funnier?
The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' apple trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to call walnut trees apple trees too!
Still, no logical response...
Smirk.
Pairbonding is natural.

Marriage is not.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12724 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
By the same authority that all societies constrain behavior.
Smile.
And these "societies" acquire that "same authority" from where?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12725 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't play tradition either.
Tradition is a cultural specific argument.
Marriage and religion are cross cultural.
Calling ss couples married is not. It isn't even a tradition.
Smirk.
Yeah, you did.

Your proposed euhemeris is the aggregate traditions of these cultures; of course ignoring those that are exceptions to your agenda.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12726 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You lie.
Again.
"We are dealing here with legislation which involves one of the basic civil rights of man. Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race."- Skinner v Oklahoma
"Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival."- Loving v Virginia
"Our Court has not recognized a fundamental right to marry that departs in any respect from the right defined by the US Supreme Court in cases like Skinner which acknowledged that marriage is "fundamental to the very existence and survival of the [human] race" because it is the primary institution supporting procreation and child-rearing (316 US at 541; see also Zablocki, 434 US 374; Griswold, 381 US 479). The binary nature of marriage¬óits inclusion of one woman and one man¬óreflects the biological fact that human procreation cannot be accomplished without the genetic contribution of both a male and a female. Marriage creates a supportive environment for procreation to occur and the resulting offspring to be nurtured. Although plaintiffs suggest that the connection between procreation and marriage has become anachronistic because of scientific advances in assisted reproduction technology, the fact remains that the vast majority of children are conceived naturally through sexual contact between a woman and a man."- Hernandez v Robels
"It is an institution in the maintenance of which in its purity the public is deeply interested, for it is the foundation of the family and of society, without which there would be neither civilization nor progress. "- Maynard v Hill
Snicker.
More stable families meet these requirements.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12727 Apr 8, 2013
dollarsbill wrote:
<quoted text>
Proverbs 16:4 (NKJV)
4 The LORD has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom.
Not a profane source, that, but also not prophetic utterence.

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