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“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#1 Jan 25, 2013
There is six question to this discussion on this thread can you answer then? Back all your answer up with the word of God nothing else.....

(1) Two Aspects of the Lord's Return?
(2) The Day of Christ and the Judgment Seat, what will happen that day?
(3) What events will happen before the Lord comes with His Saints?
(4) What is the Prophesy of the Seventy Weeks?
(5) What is the Church taken Home and the Seventieth week?
(6) What does it mean, The Jewish Remnant and its testimony?

You must show all Scripture were you got your answer's

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#2 Jan 25, 2013
Endtimes, Millennium, Rapture

The term "endtimes" applies both to the era of Christ's first coming (Heb 1:2, 1 Cor 10:11, Heb 9:26) and to the events immediately before his return and the end of the ages (Mt 24:13, 2 Tim 2:1, 2 Peter 3:3). The definitive Catholic teaching on the endtimes is contained in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the discussion of the article of the Creed, "From thence He will come again to judge the living and the dead." [CCC 668-682]

As the Creed infallibly teaches, the Second Coming is associated with the end of the world and the Last Judgment. Therefore, it is NOT associated with any earlier time - such as to establish a "Millennium." The Catholic Church specifically condemns "millenarianism," according to which Jesus will establish a throne in this world and reign here for a thousand years [CCC 676]. She teaches instead that Jesus already reigns in eternity (1 Cor. 15:24-27, Rev. 4 & 5) and that in this world His reign, established as a seed, is found already in the Church [CCC 668-669]. This is the 1000 years, which is the Hebrew way of indicating an indefinite long time - in this case, the time between the first and second comings, the era of the Church, in other words the last days in the broadest sense.The Book of Revelation situates this era between the persecutions of the Roman antichrists of the first century and the final unleashing of evil at the end.

Naturally, non-Catholics cannot accept that the Catholic Church represents Christ in this world, so they are forced to look for a personal earthly reign somewhere out in the future. The notion that Jesus will come, reign, and then depart, so that the devil can trick the world again, is incompatible with the incomprehensible dignity of the Lord and His love for His people. Jesus' Coming will be definitive, triumphant and ever-lasting, NOT temporal and limited.

As for the Rapture, the meaning of 1 Thes 4:15-17 is that at the return of Christ (v.15) and the General Resurrection of the Dead (v.16), those who survive the persecution of the Antichrist will have no advantage in being resurrected over those who died before His Coming [CCC 1001]. All will go to meet Him and be with Him forever (v.17; cf. Rev 20:17-21:27).

The Catechism provides us with a general order of events at the End [CCC 673-677]. Chronologically they are,

1. the full number of the Gentiles come into the Church

2. the "full inclusion of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation, in the wake of the full number of the Gentiles" (#2 will follow quickly on, in the wake of,#1)

3. a final trial of the Church "in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth." The supreme deception is that of the Antichrist.

4. Christ's victory over this final unleashing of evil through a cosmic upheaval of this passing world and the Last Judgment.
http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/endtimes.h...

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

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#3 Jan 25, 2013
I think Nettie wins...what does she get preacherman? Huh? What's the prize?

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#4 Jan 25, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
Endtimes, Millennium, Rapture
The term "endtimes" applies both to the era of Christ's first coming (Heb 1:2, 1 Cor 10:11, Heb 9:26) and to the events immediately before his return and the end of the ages (Mt 24:13, 2 Tim 2:1, 2 Peter 3:3). The definitive Catholic teaching on the endtimes is contained in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the discussion of the article of the Creed, "From thence He will come again to judge the living and the dead." [CCC 668-682]
As the Creed infallibly teaches, the Second Coming is associated with the end of the world and the Last Judgment. Therefore, it is NOT associated with any earlier time - such as to establish a "Millennium." The Catholic Church specifically condemns "millenarianism," according to which Jesus will establish a throne in this world and reign here for a thousand years [CCC 676]. She teaches instead that Jesus already reigns in eternity (1 Cor. 15:24-27, Rev. 4 & 5) and that in this world His reign, established as a seed, is found already in the Church [CCC 668-669]. This is the 1000 years, which is the Hebrew way of indicating an indefinite long time - in this case, the time between the first and second comings, the era of the Church, in other words the last days in the broadest sense.The Book of Revelation situates this era between the persecutions of the Roman antichrists of the first century and the final unleashing of evil at the end.
Naturally, non-Catholics cannot accept that the Catholic Church represents Christ in this world, so they are forced to look for a personal earthly reign somewhere out in the future. The notion that Jesus will come, reign, and then depart, so that the devil can trick the world again, is incompatible with the incomprehensible dignity of the Lord and His love for His people. Jesus' Coming will be definitive, triumphant and ever-lasting, NOT temporal and limited.
As for the Rapture, the meaning of 1 Thes 4:15-17 is that at the return of Christ (v.15) and the General Resurrection of the Dead (v.16), those who survive the persecution of the Antichrist will have no advantage in being resurrected over those who died before His Coming [CCC 1001]. All will go to meet Him and be with Him forever (v.17; cf. Rev 20:17-21:27).
The Catechism provides us with a general order of events at the End [CCC 673-677]. Chronologically they are,
1. the full number of the Gentiles come into the Church
2. the "full inclusion of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation, in the wake of the full number of the Gentiles" (#2 will follow quickly on, in the wake of,#1)
3. a final trial of the Church "in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth." The supreme deception is that of the Antichrist.
4. Christ's victory over this final unleashing of evil through a cosmic upheaval of this passing world and the Last Judgment.
http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/endtimes.h...
FALSE!!
OKAY

Houston, TX

#5 Jan 25, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
I think Nettie wins...what does she get preacherman? Huh? What's the prize?
Sorry, you already got the prize...booby!

“Jesus is Lord”

Since: Aug 11

Greenwood, Indiana

#6 Jan 25, 2013
The two aspects of the LORD'S return is the "Rapture" and the "Second coming of Jesus".....

Since: Jun 12

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#7 Jan 25, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
<quoted text>FALSE!!
I think Cookie's on the right track, you would be better at a game show host.

Something more modern though. Like an evil demented game show host full of delusions and meanness.

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

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#8 Jan 25, 2013
OKAY wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, you already got the prize...booby!
Ah, pissed because you can't come out and play in your account? So sad...NOT!!!

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

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#9 Jan 25, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
The two aspects of the LORD'S return is the "Rapture" and the "Second coming of Jesus".....
FALSE!!!!

Prize taker awayer.....

No more..no one play with preacherman any more because he takes away prizes he says he is giving for the right answer.

Since: Jun 12

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#10 Jan 25, 2013
OKAY wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, you already got the prize...booby!
Don't you find it depressing that you are too stupid to enter into any good discussions, but can only muster up to such immature failed attempts at insulting others?

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

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#11 Jan 25, 2013
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
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I think Cookie's on the right track, you would be better at a game show host.
Something more modern though. Like an evil demented game show host full of delusions and meanness.
Hey, I like that idea. maybe he should start a thread that goes something like

Delusions and Meanness..which side of God are you on?
OKAY

Houston, TX

#12 Jan 25, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah, pissed because you can't come out and play in your account? So sad...NOT!!!
Say what?
OKAY

Houston, TX

#13 Jan 25, 2013
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
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Don't you find it depressing that you are too stupid to enter into any good discussions, but can only muster up to such immature failed attempts at insulting others?
Between you and kookie, there isn't anyone here worth engaging.

“The Topix Legend of "GS8"!”

Since: Sep 10

Yunited States, North America

#14 Jan 25, 2013
OKAY wrote:
<quoted text>
Between you and kookie, there isn't anyone here worth engaging.
LMAO!
MLK

Charlotte, NC

#15 Jan 25, 2013
ThePreacherman01 wrote:
There is six question to this discussion on this thread can you answer then? Back all your answer up with the word of God nothing else.....
(1) Two Aspects of the Lord's Return?
(2) The Day of Christ and the Judgment Seat, what will happen that day?
(3) What events will happen before the Lord comes with His Saints?
(4) What is the Prophesy of the Seventy Weeks?
(5) What is the Church taken Home and the Seventieth week?
(6) What does it mean, The Jewish Remnant and its testimony?
You must show all Scripture were you got your answer's
(1)There are 16 obvious failed prophecies in regard to the Second Coming of Christ and the end of the world, which was supposed to take place in the First Century ApostlesÂ’ lifetime! Below is a small sample.

"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28)

"But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God." (Luke 9:27)

"So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done." (Mark 13:29-30)

Jesus clearly predicted in those verses above that the apostles standing with him would see his second coming in their lifetimes. It's clear and simple, nothing allegorical or symbolical.

"But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come." (Matthew 10:22-23)

Jesus said there that his second coming would occur WHILE his apostles were preaching in the cities of Israel!
(2)Irrelevant after he failed to return!
(3)Irrelevant after he failed to return!
(4)Irrelevant after he failed to return!
(5)Irrelevant after he failed to return!
(6)Irrelevant after he failed to return!

Cookie_Parker

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#16 Jan 25, 2013
Great information MLK.
MLK

Asheboro, NC

#17 Jan 25, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Great information MLK.
Unfortunately it's the type of information that gets suppressed by Christians!

Since: Jun 12

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#18 Jan 25, 2013
-The Star Reborn- wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you find it depressing that you are too stupid to enter into any good discussions, but can only muster up to such immature failed attempts at insulting others?
OKAY wrote:
<quoted text>
Between you and kookie, there isn't anyone here worth engaging.
You make it sooo easy to prove my point.

Can anyone show me where OTAY here, has EVER had a good intelligent discussion with anybody on Topix?

I don't ever recall seeing any.

Since: Jun 12

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#19 Jan 25, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, I like that idea. maybe he should start a thread that goes something like
Delusions and Meanness..which side of God are you on?
Hmm...

It's a start.

Sounds like something that would appeal to the fundies.

Have some non-Christian, atheist, gay, and Catholic guests with lots of preacherliar's insults and some form of painful torture if they cannot guess his insane meaningless answers to his delusional "questions", and they'll love it! Have an occasional gory "accidental" death and they'll go wild with glee!

Of course after the first show, it might be hard getting future "guests". But I'm sure the Westboro Baptist Church would be delighted to kidnap... er find guests for the show.
MLK

Charlotte, NC

#20 Jan 31, 2013
MLK wrote:
<quoted text>
(1)There are 16 obvious failed prophecies in regard to the Second Coming of Christ and the end of the world, which was supposed to take place in the First Century ApostlesÂ’ lifetime! Below is a small sample.
"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." (Matthew 16:28)
"But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God." (Luke 9:27)
"So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done." (Mark 13:29-30)
Jesus clearly predicted in those verses above that the apostles standing with him would see his second coming in their lifetimes. It's clear and simple, nothing allegorical or symbolical.
"But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come." (Matthew 10:22-23)
Jesus said there that his second coming would occur WHILE his apostles were preaching in the cities of Israel!
(2)Irrelevant after he failed to return!
(3)Irrelevant after he failed to return!
(4)Irrelevant after he failed to return!
(5)Irrelevant after he failed to return!
(6)Irrelevant after he failed to return!
Preacher looks like you forgot to answer this post. We didn't even get to the rest of the failed prophecy!

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