Two Questions for Atheists/Evolutionists

“Vader2016!”

Since: Sep 10

The Deathstar

#1085 Sep 10, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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We Christians are NOT the ones saying anyone will go to hell, God says it very clearly throughout the Bible, and Jesus is just as clear about it:
Funny thing, I have never been told I was going to hell by god, it was always a christian.
lol

Welch, WV

#1086 Sep 10, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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Oh no, no, LOL, this one is TOO clear. They'll never agree with it! ;) Good one!
Catholics have a way of reading something that plainly rejects their dogma and just flat out ignore it. It really makes clear the verse...

Ezekiel 12:2
"Son of man, you are living among a rebellious people. They have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear, for they are a rebellious people.

How many of those types are in this forum?
lol

Welch, WV

#1087 Sep 10, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Since you obviously know nothing about the Catholic church, you could save face by not commenting.
lol You knew enough about it to reject it and become a Buddhist. lol

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

Catholicism is a spiders web of superstition and deception, just waiting to snatch some poor misguided soul up.
lol

Welch, WV

#1088 Sep 10, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
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Funny thing, I have never been told I was going to hell by god, it was always a christian.
Open the bible and read it for yourself. God tells you plainly you are hellbound UNLESS you accept Jesus Christ as Savior.
fudiesmacker

Hollywood, FL

#1089 Sep 10, 2013
lol wrote:
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Open the bible and read it for yourself. God tells you plainly you are hellbound UNLESS you accept Jesus Christ as Savior.
Your diapers are dirty.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

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#1090 Sep 11, 2013
lol wrote:
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Catholics have a way of reading something that plainly rejects their dogma and just flat out ignore it. It really makes clear the verse...
Ezekiel 12:2
"Son of man, you are living among a rebellious people. They have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear, for they are a rebellious people.
How many of those types are in this forum?
Well, let's see.
There's Wayne.
There's FollowofChrist.

I am sure there are more.
I'll get back with you.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#1091 Sep 11, 2013
lol wrote:
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Open the bible and read it for yourself. God tells you plainly you are hellbound UNLESS you accept Jesus Christ as Savior.
The Bible is NOT God.
God is NOT bound by the Bible in any way.
God can grant salvation to any soul He deems worthy OF it.
God has the ability to reach any soul on earth in ways known only to Him..........not you.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#1092 Sep 11, 2013
lol wrote:
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lol You knew enough about it to reject it and become a Buddhist. lol
Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
Catholicism is a spiders web of superstition and deception, just waiting to snatch some poor misguided soul up.
Wayne, I see that you are yet still a closet Catholic.
Aren't you tired of being hunched down in the closet with a Catholic Bible and a flashlight and extra batteries?
Huh

Sussex, WI

#1093 Sep 11, 2013
fudiesmacker wrote:
<quoted text>Your diapers are dirty.
fudies-macker? WTH is that?

“Vader2016!”

Since: Sep 10

The Deathstar

#1094 Sep 11, 2013
lol wrote:
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Open the bible and read it for yourself. God tells you plainly you are hellbound UNLESS you accept Jesus Christ as Savior.
It also says you can get drunk and have sex with both of your daughters on different occasions (impregnating them) and not know.

It also says that vegetation talked along with a donkey and a snake.

It also says that the Earth was made before the Sun and stars and so was light.

Also, that grass was created before the sun.

It condones slavery and orders the slaughter of children.

Your bible says a lot of stuff.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#1095 Sep 11, 2013
lol wrote:
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lol You knew enough about it to reject it and become a Buddhist. lol
Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
Catholicism is a spiders web of superstition and deception, just waiting to snatch some poor misguided soul up.
All of Xtianity is a web of superstition and deception. Prayer = superstitious mumbo-jumbo. Speaking in tongues = superstitious mumb-jumbo. sola scriptura (all the solas)= superstitious mumbo-jumbo. You name it and its all superstitous mumbo-jumbo - brought to you by the most deceptive men thru history, priests, preachers, and those who claim to know the will and wishes of a Super-being.'cause they had a nice Sunday drive with Jesus riding shotgun.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#1096 Sep 11, 2013
lol wrote:
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Open the bible and read it for yourself. God tells you plainly you are hellbound UNLESS you accept Jesus Christ as Savior.
Not really, my name never comes up in the Bible.

Actually GOD never says what you claim.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#1097 Sep 11, 2013
lol wrote:
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The Catholic church is the great church of Apostasy. It has fallen away from the Faith once delivered to the saints. Your pride and arrogance is plain to see and also your holier than thou, condescending attitude.
Are you pure of sin? Will you sin in the near future? Have you eliminated pride from your life?

As we know the answer is YES, and a resounding one at that - yet YOU try and teach and preach the Message all the same...yet you sin...

Do you see where I'm going with this...do you have the intellect to follow it...?
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#1098 Sep 11, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Are you pure of sin? Will you sin in the near future? Have you eliminated pride from your life?
As we know the answer is YES, and a resounding one at that - yet YOU try and teach and preach the Message all the same...yet you sin...
Do you see where I'm going with this...do you have the intellect to follow it...?
Oops, my bad...

The pride Q is in the wrong place...we all know you are as prideful as anyone else, if not more...thus you have NOT eliminated it from your repertoire...
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#1099 Sep 11, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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Perhaps not literally, but it has installed numerous "traditions" that contradict the Bible and even totally sidestep Biblical foundational teachings. These serve to add to the Bible and that is expressly forbidden throughout God's word!
You are thick as a brick...the RCC can and does support its POV with the Bible. They have been at it way longer than you and your fellow Protys.

Plus they can say with much more confidence that Protys contradict the Bible with many of their beliefs. As you all do.

Why cant you see your own contradictions?

Answer, your pride and Ego are as large as any stick in any ones eye.

Whats really funny, well not really, is that Protys like you have been following numerous "traditions" just like the RCC. But your too willfully belligerent to see them.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#1100 Sep 11, 2013
lol wrote:
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John 4:25 The woman saith unto Him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when He is come, He will tell us all things.
John 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am He.
Yeah the Book of John...the book that intentionally attempts to link Jesus to the vague Jewish prophecies...establishing his Jewish creds.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#1101 Sep 11, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I've only had a computer for about 8 months. Most places ban me, but I've found two forums that haven't. I have to watch what I say on the other one though and I can't be completely honest. I prefer this one because I'm free.
How in he// does this answer my Questions?

namely; So You are fluent in Biblical Hebrew and Aramaic? Making you one of a very small group - like under three dozen in the world..?

So are you fluent in Biblical Hebrew and Aramaic..?
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#1102 Sep 11, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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I do paragraphing but it doesn’t always come out that way.
Anyway, how WE interpret the writing is less important than how it was MEANT to be interpreted by those contemporary to it. The people for whom the NT was written were people in *those* times, 2000 years ago,, and they had differing cultures and language from what we have today. In other words, when Paul wrote to the Ephesians, for example, he wrote in a way that they were meant to understand, which may be quite different from how we understand it. It’s like expecting people 2000 years in the future to understand what people mean today when they write things like “cuz,”“yo,”“gotcha,”“gonna,”“c ould of,” etc.
“And the same applies to the Bible. Which was not in existence when Jesus was preaching, nor was it around when the Apostles were doing their thang, etc, etc...”
I assume you meant the NT here, as Jesus and the Apostles did have the OT. And remember, Jesus, being God Himself, guided the writing of the Bible, so He certainly knew it!
Politics and organization certainly do not guarantee correctness, I concur, but God absolutely CAN insure correctness and did so! The Bible was entirely guided and preserved by God, not mankind! It wouldn’t have lasted more than a generation or two had He not done so!
It is like the story, Highlander: there can be only one! There can only be one truth for the Biblical message; more than one would leave it totally up to individual interpretation and that would certainly be its ruin, as it actually has almost been (think Mormonism, JWs, Catholicism, and many other denominations that have altered it!), if not for God’s divine guidance.
Again, with regard to His “I am the Way….” Statement, He didn’t HAVE to define it; it was written for a contemporary audience who would have completely understood what He was claiming. The fact that the Jewish leaders were often ready to kill Him was an indication that they knew exactly what He was claiming: He was claiming to be the Messiah, Christ, God in human form! THAT was why they took up stones to kill Him whenever He said things like “Before Abraham was, I Am.”
Jesus spoke more of hell than He did of heaven; is that not a clear indication that He was warning nonbelievers to seek Him so they could avoid hell? We Christians are NOT the ones saying anyone will go to hell, God says it very clearly throughout the Bible, and Jesus is just as clear about it:
“And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell” Mat. 10:28.
“Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation” Rom. 13:2.
Being verbose only gets YOU in trouble. You contradicted yourself a few times...go back and look it over...I'm tired of pointing them out...I'm not Your personal teacher.

But let me ask, Where does the Bible say there is ONLY ONE interpretation? All things said about the Bible MUST come from the Bible - or so you Protys claim - so where does it say there is ONLY ONE INTERPRETATION ???
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#1103 Sep 11, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
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Since you obviously know nothing about the Catholic church, you could save face by not commenting.
Tell me, what have I gotten wrong?
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#1104 Sep 11, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Catholics confess to God:
The Act of Contrition
By Scott P. Richert, About.com Guide
The Act of Contrition is usually associated with the Sacrament of Confession, but Catholics should also pray it every day as part of their normal prayer life. In it, we acknowledge our sins, ask God for forgiveness, and express our desire to repent.
The Act of Contrition
"O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee, and I detest all my sins, because I dread the loss of Heaven, and the pains of Hell; but most of all because I love Thee, my God, Who art all good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of Thy grace, to confess my sins, to do penance, and to amend my life. Amen."
Here is a link showing that all Catholic Church teachings are based on scripture:
http://www.askacatholic.com/_WebPostings/Answ...
A list of Catholic Scripture verses that defend Catholic doctrines.
And, yes, they are either direct or implied within all scripture.
The New Testament, after all, IS a Catholic document!
So what is confessional if not to confess your sins?

I looked at the portion about Mary on this site you provided and even it shows nothing whatsoever to deem Mary worthy of worship. She was a special women chosen of God to bring Jesus into the world, but that is ALL she was. There is no hint in the Bible that Mary ascended to heaven without dying!

And we've had this discussion before: the NT is not a Catholic document, it is Jesus' gospels and letters to His new church, which is anyone and everyone who becomes saved, not any one hierarchical church body!

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