Two Questions for Atheists/Evolutionists
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#691 Aug 30, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>I did not ask you.
I figured you would come up with some messed up ignorant rant.
Why would you act like this when YOU so often wedge yourself into MY conversations with others? You DO know what a hypocrite is, do you not?
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#692 Aug 30, 2013
Tango Bravo wrote:
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Follower,
My point is that you insist on interpreting Holy Scripture rather than accepting it literally.
So how about you provide me with a verse/section that is not to be taken literally.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#693 Aug 30, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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Why would you act like this when YOU so often wedge yourself into MY conversations with others? You DO know what a hypocrite is, do you not?
Here, have a cookie.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#694 Aug 30, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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1. Science has pretty much established that the universe had to have had a beginning. This reality began with the theory of relativity and has only become more likely as more scientific discoveries have happened. The fact that the big bang may have happened and that the universe is known to be expanding means that it MUST have had a beginning. Hypotheses such as multi-verses and expanding/contracting universe have no basis in science and are completely unfalsifiable, which by definition means they cannot be considered science.
2. Yes, I get it!
This last part you offer is simply referring to mutation and that really has nothing to do with origins.
1.
Out of the findings of Einstein and others with him came this idea about a Big Bang a new creation of everything, starting with a 4 trillion degree hot plasma soup, expanding and cooling down.
From that we had the first molecules of hydrogen and so forth.

But did it have to have the initial start from there?
Most likely all of it existed in another form ahead of that, maybe another universe existing before this one.

Then we are still left with the same question; when did it actually start or has it always existed?

We could only speculate but all the evidences are by now lost and gone.

2.
A mutation does not happen that way and is very rare.
It is more about the unbalance of hormones.
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#695 Aug 30, 2013
Mr Ironhart wrote:
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1.
Out of the findings of Einstein and others with him came this idea about a Big Bang a new creation of everything, starting with a 4 trillion degree hot plasma soup, expanding and cooling down.
From that we had the first molecules of hydrogen and so forth.
But did it have to have the initial start from there?
Most likely all of it existed in another form ahead of that, maybe another universe existing before this one.
Then we are still left with the same question; when did it actually start or has it always existed?
We could only speculate but all the evidences are by now lost and gone.
2.
A mutation does not happen that way and is very rare.
It is more about the unbalance of hormones.
1. Science is about the observable and testable and such ideas as a previous universe is not only untestable, it is unfalsifiable. Any scientist will tell you that the unfalsifiable is not, and cannot be, scientific. Even forensic science has absolutely nothing to work with to try to prove multiple universes. Such ideas just show how desperate science is to prove that which it cannot prove!

2. The point is, it is not the norm.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#696 Aug 30, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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So how about you provide me with a verse/section that is not to be taken literally.
6 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live.
7 I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.
8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
lol

Welch, WV

#698 Aug 30, 2013
10uhsee wrote:
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Do you really think we are impressed with an all-knowing-god who knew what would happen if he created dirt-man and rib-woman, but did it anyways? Or when he created "Satan" ... but again, did it anyways.
The most basic foundation of your belief system falls to pieces when you open your eyes to see it for what it is.
Right along with talking animals (non-human) and vegetation.
No, you don't get to put non-human in parenthesis. If you think we evolved then we are nothing but animals and guess what? We talk. So evolutionists believe in talking animals. If you think you get to hold Christians to their stories and call them fairy tales then we get to hold you to your fairy tales also.

God knew that with free will man, and the angels, were subject to fall. So, the ball is in your court.
lol

Welch, WV

#699 Aug 30, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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Don't forget Urim and Thummim, the talking rocks. It's hard enough to squeeze reality and Christianity into one head without having to clutter things up with talking animals, vegetables and minerals; dirt-men and rib-women. Yet if I refuse to do so, as the fundies would have it, I must be a fake Chistian and probably an atheist.
Talking rocks? More evidence of your ignorance.

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/14...

Relation to the Shekinah.("Ant." iii. 8,§ 9, Whiston's transl.).

"But as to those stones, which we told you before, the high priest bare on his shoulders ... the one of them shined out when God was present at their sacrifices ... bright rays darting out thence; and being seen even by those that were most remote; which splendor yet was not before natural to the stone.... Yet will I mention what is still more wonderful than this; for God declared beforehand, by those twelve stones which the high priest bare on his breast, and which were inserted into his breastplate, when they should be victorious in battle; for so great a splendor shone forth from them before the army began to march, that all the people were sensible of God's being present for their assistance. Whence it came to pass that those Greeks who had a veneration for our laws, because they could not possibly contradict this, called that breastplate the Oracle"
lol

Welch, WV

#700 Aug 30, 2013
followerofSatan wrote:
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lost???bwhahahahahahahah... and you with you imaginary beings are not lost...bwhhahahahhahahahahahha hahah... that's funny retard...
ask yourself why you can't demo a single supernatural thing...and then look in the mirror and repeat 10 times " lol, you are a retard"....bwhahhahahhaha hahhahahh
Straight jacket too tight?
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#701 Aug 30, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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So how about you provide me with a verse/section that is not to be taken literally.
Because, Follower,

You're the one who insists on interpreting the Bible.

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#702 Aug 30, 2013
lol wrote:
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No, you don't get to put non-human in parenthesis. If you think we evolved then we are nothing but animals and guess what? We talk. So evolutionists believe in talking animals. If you think you get to hold Christians to their stories and call them fairy tales then we get to hold you to your fairy tales also.
God knew that with free will man, and the angels, were subject to fall. So, the ball is in your court.
Yes and what is it about humans that animals doesn’t have?

We are more concerned about the past and the future than any kind of animal that I know, and that is the most significant difference.
lol

Welch, WV

#703 Aug 30, 2013
Mr Ironhart wrote:
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Yes and what is it about humans that animals doesn’t have?
We are more concerned about the past and the future than any kind of animal that I know, and that is the most significant difference.
The point it, mockers keep braying about Christians and talking animals when, if evo proves true, then we are nothing but talking animals that worry too much.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#705 Aug 30, 2013
lol wrote:
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The only thing you are exposing on a CHRISTIAN FORUM you idiot, is how lost you truly are.

How lonely and boring it must be in the box you have surrounded yourself in.
Here we go again...

Who's the idiot, idiot?

No need to end that sentence with "in". If one is surrounded, they are in.

Plus, you're asking a question...and you ended the sentence with a period, not a question mark.(like this -?)
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#706 Aug 30, 2013
lol wrote:
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The point it, mockers keep braying about Christians and talking animals when, if evo proves true, then we are nothing but talking animals that worry too much.
But we are animals. ALL animal are capable of "talking" among themselves, as is the same with us human animals. That we dont understand their languages is not their fault, its our weakness. Making us not as smart or superior as we, that you, think we are...

The issue in the silly Bible stories is that the animals in question speak a human language. Also why would such a Super Being speak thru a donkey, or any animal? Damn silly way to communicate.

Plus it shows the God is not omniscient, as he should know that most people would think such stories are a crock of shyte. Which seems to be a weakness of this God...not seeing thru the idiocy of his plans.
lol

Welch, WV

#707 Aug 30, 2013
Punisher wrote:
<quoted text>Here we go again...
Who's the idiot, idiot?
No need to end that sentence with "in". If one is surrounded, they are in.
Plus, you're asking a question...and you ended the sentence with a period, not a question mark.(like this -?)
I don't need a grammar lesson. If I make a statement like

"How self-centered and stupid Punisher is," it is perfectly all right.

Do keep up with the times old chap?
lol

Welch, WV

#708 Aug 30, 2013
Punisher wrote:
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But we are animals. ALL animal are capable of "talking" among themselves, as is the same with us human animals. That we dont understand their languages is not their fault, its our weakness. Making us not as smart or superior as we, that you, think we are...
The issue in the silly Bible stories is that the animals in question speak a human language. Also why would such a Super Being speak thru a donkey, or any animal? Damn silly way to communicate.
Plus it shows the God is not omniscient, as he should know that most people would think such stories are a crock of shyte. Which seems to be a weakness of this God...not seeing thru the idiocy of his plans.
Like all your posts, you are wrong. I say the animals are too dumb to understand US. Only a complete Narcissist such as yourself comes up with such stupid arguments. If you are so smart, then why don't you make like Dr. Doolittle and talk to the animals? You put yourself on such a high pedestal it should be simple for a genius like you.

lol
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#709 Aug 30, 2013
lol wrote:
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Talking rocks? More evidence of your ignorance.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/14...
Relation to the Shekinah.("Ant." iii. 8,§ 9, Whiston's transl.).
"But as to those stones, which we told you before, the high priest bare on his shoulders ... the one of them shined out when God was present at their sacrifices ... bright rays darting out thence; and being seen even by those that were most remote; which splendor yet was not before natural to the stone.... Yet will I mention what is still more wonderful than this; for God declared beforehand, by those twelve stones which the high priest bare on his breast, and which were inserted into his breastplate, when they should be victorious in battle; for so great a splendor shone forth from them before the army began to march, that all the people were sensible of God's being present for their assistance. Whence it came to pass that those Greeks who had a veneration for our laws, because they could not possibly contradict this, called that breastplate the Oracle"
Like that's a better explanation? LOL! Still sounds like the ravings of superstitious, self-aggrandizing men. And all made-up!

Talking stones or being made to shine unnaturally bright by a God...still silly, still a stupid thing to believe and most certainly because an intelligent God would demand it be believed so not to be char-broiled!

Why does this God insist on making humans believe in the absurd, to avoid his wrath?

"Hey kids, I'm a magician, and I'm really pulling coins of the air." Believable up to the age of maybe 5. After that, that kid needs to be separated from the other, smarter, sensible kids who live in reality. While that other kid should be sent to the special class.
lol

Welch, WV

#710 Aug 30, 2013
Punisher wrote:
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Like that's a better explanation? LOL! Still sounds like the ravings of superstitious, self-aggrandizing men. And all made-up!
Talking stones or being made to shine unnaturally bright by a God...still silly, still a stupid thing to believe and most certainly because an intelligent God would demand it be believed so not to be char-broiled!
Why does this God insist on making humans believe in the absurd, to avoid his wrath?
"Hey kids, I'm a magician, and I'm really pulling coins of the air." Believable up to the age of maybe 5. After that, that kid needs to be separated from the other, smarter, sensible kids who live in reality. While that other kid should be sent to the special class.
Did you ever answer me when I ask if you were Catholic? You sure sound like one. You have no knowledge whatsoever about the Bible and you are as arrogant as any Catholic I have seen on here, you think you know everything but you don't know nothing.
lol

Welch, WV

#711 Aug 30, 2013
Punisher wrote:
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Like that's a better explanation? LOL! Still sounds like the ravings of superstitious, self-aggrandizing men. And all made-up!
Talking stones or being made to shine unnaturally bright by a God..ass.
And I was answering the arrogance of the Dalli guy, he said talking rocks and he was wrong. That explanation came from a Jewish encyclopedia so of course you AND he are not capable of understanding.
Punisher

Bronxville, NY

#712 Aug 30, 2013
lol wrote:
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Like all your posts, you are wrong. I say the animals are too dumb to understand US. Only a complete Narcissist such as yourself comes up with such stupid arguments. If you are so smart, then why don't you make like Dr. Doolittle and talk to the animals? You put yourself on such a high pedestal it should be simple for a genius like you.
lol
I "talk" (notice quotes) to my three dogs my friend, I communicate thru whistles, human words and hand gestures - as well as eye-contact. They do the same with their body gestures, yips, barks and tail-gestures...as well as eye-contact.

Animals do understand us. Many species learn to use our words, even to know they mean something, even if just a command to perform an action for us. They learn that "word x" means object Y.

Many in the wild know to avoid us, as its a means to being killed, too often for human adornment. And more and more we humans are learning to decipher their inter and other species communications.

You really are stupid, these realities are right in front of your dumb face. You're the usual Believer narcissist, believing that you were chosen by a God to be his club-mate. Because you believe in talking donkeys and magic glowing rocks.

LOL! plus a little ROFLMAO!

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