Two Questions for Atheists/Evolutionists
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Welch, WV

#553 Aug 25, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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We should pity him. We should pray for him. I did pray for him at Mass this morning. Looks like I need to pray for his entire hamlet.
"Oceana was the subject of the 2013 documentary film Oxyana, which portrayed a bleak picture of a community affected by widespread abuse of the prescription painkiller Oxycontin. The film premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UXIjSy13yr8XX
You sniveling fake hypocrite sand flea, clean up your own backyard before slinging crap about other places.

http://www.krqe.com/news/on-assignment/cartel...

ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE)- Since 2006, Mexican drug cartels have killed 40,000 of their fellow countrymen and transformed their country into a bloody battleground.

And while the cartels have not declared open war on each other on the U.S. side of the border, they do have influence here, which often comes in the form of murders and bribing law enforcement.

"They're trying to do everything they can to protect the movement of their drugs," said Darren White, public safety director for the City of Albuquerque. "And if that means trying to find someone who's willing to go dirty, then absolutely, that's their business model. That's how they're successful."

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#554 Aug 25, 2013
15th Dalai Lama wrote:
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We should pity him. We should pray for him. I did pray for him at Mass this morning. Looks like I need to pray for his entire hamlet.
"Oceana was the subject of the 2013 documentary film Oxyana, which portrayed a bleak picture of a community affected by widespread abuse of the prescription painkiller Oxycontin. The film premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =UXIjSy13yr8XX
Maybe this accounts for that sighting of the Mothman.
lol

Welch, WV

#556 Aug 25, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe this accounts for that sighting of the Mothman.
I see your location is hidden. Ashamed of where you're from? I would be too.
lol

Welch, WV

#557 Aug 25, 2013
FollowerofLucifer wrote:
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it is all in god's plan..bwhahhahahahhahahahahaha hha
When God casts the final unrepentant into hell he doesn't want them to have an excuse so He will NOT interfere in your decision to be a vile lost sinner. It will all be on YOUR head.
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#558 Aug 25, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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Tango,
The Bible was written by men from differing cultures with ancient languages and in numerous different contexts; therefore, it must be understood with those things in mind. Some of the Bible is straight forward and not too hard to comprehend, such as when Genesis says, "The evening and the morning were the third day." The fact that the Hebrew word for day, yom, always means one 24hr period when combined with a numerical reference should be proof enough that it is one actual day. Yet, almost as if He knew people would one day come along and try to change the meaning, He made it even MORE obvious by adding evening and morning: seriously...what else could that possibly mean? The time between an evening and a morning cannot last for eons!
Other times the Bible mentions something that cannot be understood without considering context, culture, ancient language, etc. For example, people often wonder why Jesus didn't just come right out and say, "Yes, I am God!" But what they don't understand is that He did exactly that in the type of language the contemporaries of that time period and those people would understand. When He is asked and answers, "It is as you say," that is Jesus saying "Yes, I am God in human form, the messiah." That IS what those people understood Him to be saying, which is why they become so angry and want to kill Him!
So, the Bible is to be taken literally, yes. At times the Bible uses figurative language, poetry, hyperbole, etc., but it always does so to help make a point of to advance a belief or thought. It is never there just for entertainment or some such thing. Jesus uses metaphor and hyperbole to make points. Genesis, however, is a true historical account. To say that Genesis is non literal is to invite everything else in the Bible to be taken as such. That is the problem with evo. and origins theories--belief in them calls into question the validity of the entire Bible!
lol,

What you appear to be saying is that the Bible must be taken literally unless it appears to be contradicting itself, and then it needs to be re-translated, reinterpreted, or explained to mean something it didn't say. You also appear to be saying that if any one part of the Bible is re-translated, reinterpreted, or explained that no part of the Bible can be taken literally.
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#559 Aug 25, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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So, Tango, is the reason you wont point out a contradiction because you cannot really find one, or is it that you think I should know that there ARE contradictions. Even if I agreed that there could be biblical contradictions, how would I know what YOU think is a contradiction?
You are welcome to start with the contradictions I've already pointed out. Two versions of Creation in Genesis. Two versions of the fall from the Garden of Eden. Three similar, but contradictory, versions of the NT Gospels.
lol

Welch, WV

#560 Aug 25, 2013
Tango Bravo wrote:
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You are welcome to start with the contradictions I've already pointed out. Two versions of Creation in Genesis. Two versions of the fall from the Garden of Eden. Three similar, but contradictory, versions of the NT Gospels.
There are not two contradictory versions of Creations, just two DIFFERENT Creations. Chapter one is six, or seven literal days.

You cannot say that Chapter two is a more detailed version of Chapter one because there are way to many differences, not contradictions.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#561 Aug 25, 2013
lol wrote:
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There are not two contradictory versions of Creations, just two DIFFERENT Creations. Chapter one is six, or seven literal days.
You cannot say that Chapter two is a more detailed version of Chapter one because there are way to many differences, not contradictions.
You must be a Murray follower.
feces for jesus

Thiells, NY

#565 Aug 25, 2013
lol wrote:
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When God casts the final unrepentant into hell he doesn't want them to have an excuse so He will NOT interfere in your decision to be a vile lost sinner. It will all be on YOUR head.
Hell isn't in your bible. It's too bad you perpetuate your religions lies.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#566 Aug 25, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>You must be a Murray follower.
It's WAYNE, Nettie!(((grins)))

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#567 Aug 25, 2013
lol wrote:
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You sniveling fake hypocrite sand flea, clean up your own backyard before slinging crap about other places.
http://www.krqe.com/news/on-assignment/cartel...
ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE)- Since 2006, Mexican drug cartels have killed 40,000 of their fellow countrymen and transformed their country into a bloody battleground.
And while the cartels have not declared open war on each other on the U.S. side of the border, they do have influence here, which often comes in the form of murders and bribing law enforcement.
"They're trying to do everything they can to protect the movement of their drugs," said Darren White, public safety director for the City of Albuquerque. "And if that means trying to find someone who's willing to go dirty, then absolutely, that's their business model. That's how they're successful."
There's a silver lining to that cloud. If the State Department declares it unsafe to travel in Mexico they can't deport anyone.

God bless you.

By the way, I do clean up my back yard, and my front yard, and mowed down all the curbside weeds on the whole block; even in front of the methamphetamine psycho's yard.

“Wear white at night.”

Since: Jun 09

Albuquerque

#568 Aug 25, 2013
lol wrote:
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You sniveling fake hypocrite sand flea, clean up your own backyard before slinging crap about other places.
http://www.krqe.com/news/on-assignment/cartel...
ALBUQUERQUE (KRQE)- Since 2006, Mexican drug cartels have killed 40,000 of their fellow countrymen and transformed their country into a bloody battleground.
And while the cartels have not declared open war on each other on the U.S. side of the border, they do have influence here, which often comes in the form of murders and bribing law enforcement.
"They're trying to do everything they can to protect the movement of their drugs," said Darren White, public safety director for the City of Albuquerque. "And if that means trying to find someone who's willing to go dirty, then absolutely, that's their business model. That's how they're successful."
You want something a bit more interesting?

Albuquerque atheist sherrif's deputy goes wild:

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#569 Aug 25, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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It's WAYNE, Nettie!(((grins)))
I had thought it was a couple of days ago, but I just didn't want it to be true.
lol
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#570 Aug 25, 2013
Tango Bravo wrote:
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You are welcome to start with the contradictions I've already pointed out. Two versions of Creation in Genesis. Two versions of the fall from the Garden of Eden. Three similar, but contradictory, versions of the NT Gospels.
I think I said this before, but if you are talking about the apparent differences between chapters 1 and 2, you are not looking at it correctly. Chapter one is simply the overview of the creation week. Chapter two is like a zoom-in on the events of day 6 of that week wherein it describes the specific info about the creation of man, woman, and their assigned tasks. If you are looking at particular info in chapter two, such as the vegetation, that is often considered conflicting, you must remember that there are different words in the Hebrew language. The plant life in chapter one was all plant life, while the words for plants "of the field" used in chapter two meant agricultural veggies that are to be raised by Adam. No contradictions!
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#571 Aug 25, 2013
Nettiebelle wrote:
<quoted text>I had thought it was a couple of days ago, but I just didn't want it to be true.
lol
Be careful how you use that "lol" now. It's someone's name, right?:)
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#572 Aug 25, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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I think I said this before, but if you are talking about the apparent differences between chapters 1 and 2, you are not looking at it correctly.
Is this an "apparent contradiction"? Or just a plain and simple old CONTRADICTION?

Genesis 1:25-27 (Humans were created after the other animals.)
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And God said, Let us make man in our image.... So God created man in his own image.

Genesis 2:18-19 (Humans were created before the other animals.)
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#573 Aug 25, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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Be careful how you use that "lol" now. It's someone's name, right?:)
Oh, my goodness.
You are right.
The last thing Wayne is would be lots of laughs.

“God Loves Ilks!”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#574 Aug 25, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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I think I said this before, but if you are talking about the apparent differences between chapters 1 and 2, you are not looking at it correctly. Chapter one is simply the overview of the creation week. Chapter two is like a zoom-in on the events of day 6 of that week wherein it describes the specific info about the creation of man, woman, and their assigned tasks. If you are looking at particular info in chapter two, such as the vegetation, that is often considered conflicting, you must remember that there are different words in the Hebrew language. The plant life in chapter one was all plant life, while the words for plants "of the field" used in chapter two meant agricultural veggies that are to be raised by Adam. No contradictions!
Both are just stories to attempt to explain Creation. Neither accounting is literal or scientific. "Historical" yes, but not in the way you would think.
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#575 Aug 25, 2013
lol wrote:
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There are not two contradictory versions of Creations, just two DIFFERENT Creations. Chapter one is six, or seven literal days.
You cannot say that Chapter two is a more detailed version of Chapter one because , not contradictions.
lol,

You can only say that the two different versions of Creation in Genesis are not contradictory if you claim that one or both versions are not to be taken literally. Otherwise you must re-translate, reinterpret, or in some other way explain that one or both versions actually mean something other than what they say. If on the other hand you are saying that there were literally two different Creations I'm inclined to ask you which Creation you're descended from, and where did the other Creation go?

I've made no claim that "...Chapter two is a more detailed version of Chapter one." That's something that you brought up; not me. I do agree with you, however, that "...there are way to many differences..." for the two versions of Creation to be compatible with a single, literal story of Creation. Two different Creations I don't accept. Like you I reject the claim by some that the two versions of Creation in the Bible provide a literal explanation of Creation.

By the way, you have failed to address the two versions of the fall from the Garden of Eden and the three similar, but contradictory, versions of the NT Gospel. But that's okay for now. I'd much rather complete the discussion on Creation before moving on to these additional contradictory portions of the Bible.
Tango Bravo

Wichita, KS

#576 Aug 25, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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I think I said this before, but if you are talking about the apparent differences between chapters 1 and 2, you are not looking at it correctly. Chapter one is simply the overview of the creation week. Chapter two is like a zoom-in on the events of day 6 of that week wherein it describes the specific info about the creation of man, woman, and their assigned tasks. If you are looking at particular info in chapter two, such as the vegetation, that is often considered conflicting, you must remember that there are different words in the Hebrew language. The plant life in chapter one was all plant life, while the words for plants "of the field" used in chapter two meant agricultural veggies that are to be raised by Adam. No contradictions!
Follower,

It is clear from your response that you interpret the Bible and reject the possibility of taking it literally.

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