Saint of the Day thread

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#1791 Apr 10, 2013
For those in any religion to state that a god inspired them to write, "You shall have no other gods" ... indicates to me that those male authors were at one time believers in multiple gods and broke away to start a religion that they hoped would lead all people of the world to funnel through their religion with its one-god dogma.

"Follow me and you will reap huge benefits in the afterlife" ... preached the one-god-dogma Jews.

And ever after, those specific Jews, Christians and Muslims have all bragged of having ownership of the one god and being his favorite receivers of "miracles" on earth AND in a supposed hereafter.

Silly, greedy people.

However, even when the ancients believed in multiple gods, they also believed that many of those gods were needy of sacrifices to appease the WRATH of the gods, which in turn resulted in burning innocent human and non-human animals in the flames.

Humans are indoctrinated idiots, and the hopelessness of the situation, is that we are PROUD to BE idiots. We jump from believing one idiotic dogma to another that we caught from other idiots ... and we often stop at the trough of a preferred lot of mental idiocy, claiming to at last have found TRUTH.

At least non-human animals are not "cursed" with such blatant egotistical stupidity.

“Jesus, my Lord and my God.”

Since: Jan 08

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#1792 Apr 11, 2013
Thursday, April 11, 2013
St. Stanislaus
(1030-1079)

Anyone who reads the history of Eastern Europe cannot help but chance on the name of Stanislaus, the saintly but tragic bishop of Kraków, patron of Poland. He is remembered with Saints Thomas More (June 22) and Thomas Becket (December 29) for vigorous opposition to the evils of an unjust government.

Born in Szczepanow near Kraków on July 26, 1030, he was ordained a priest after being educated in the cathedral schools of Gniezno, then capital of Poland, and at Paris. He was appointed preacher and archdeacon to the bishop of Kraków, where his eloquence and example brought about real conversion in many of his penitents, both clergy and laity. He became bishop of Kraków in 1072.

During an expedition against the Grand Duchy of Kiev, Stanislaus became involved in the political situation of Poland. Known for his outspokenness, he aimed his attacks at the evils of the peasantry and the king, especially the unjust wars and immoral acts of King Boleslaus II.

The king first excused himself, then made a show of penance, then relapsed into his old ways. Stanislaus continued his open opposition in spite of charges of treason and threats of death, finally excommunicating the king. The latter, enraged, ordered soldiers to kill the bishop. When they refused, the king killed him with his own hands.

Forced to flee to Hungary, Boleslaus supposedly spent the rest of his life as a penitent in the Benedictine abbey in Osiak.

Comment:
John the Baptist, Thomas Becket, Thomas More and Stanislaus are a few of the prophets who dared to denounce corruption in high places. They follow in the footsteps of Jesus himself, who pointed out the moral corruption in the religious leadership of his day. It is a risky business: "Let the one among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone..." (John 8:7b).

Quote:
"Men desire authority for its own sake that they may bear a rule, command and control other men, and live uncommanded and uncontrolled themselves" (St. Thomas More, A Dialogue of Comfort).

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“Jesus, my Lord and my God.”

Since: Jan 08

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#1793 Apr 11, 2013
Tango Bravo wrote:
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MichelleMC,
Thanks for the information and for the inspiration. I don't visit this forum often, but I do appreciate your efforts.
You're very welcome.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#1794 Apr 11, 2013
MichelleMC wrote:
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You're very welcome.
Jews don't follow a Catholic dogma, and had Jesus lived, he would have been a faithful Jewish Rabbi ... not working for a pope in Catholic confessionals.

Do you like playing the part of a fool?

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#1795 Apr 11, 2013
The Incredible Book of Vatican Facts and Papal Curiosities … A treasury of Trivia, by Nino Lo Bello~ Published 1998.

What was the Index Librorum Prohibitorum?

The Vatican Library also catalogs some 4,000 books that were listed in the Vatican’s Index of Forbidden Books (index Librorum Prohibitorum). The index was created in 1557 by order of Pope Paul IV, whose reign most embodied the Inquisition.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#1796 Apr 11, 2013
The Incredible Book of Vatican Facts and Papal Curiosities … A treasury of Trivia, by Nino Lo Bello~ Published 1998.

What was the Index Librorum Prohibitorum?

Quite a few of the Index listing of forbidden books forever baffled some Church executives, such as Alexander Dumas’s The Count of Monte Cristo and The Three Musketeers, Oliver Goldsmith’s History of England, and Edward Gibbons Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. No reason was given for the anonymous bans, so one can only wonder why the Index also included such innocuous documents as a 1664 treatise on the use of unguents for burns, an 1844 Swiss almanac, or a pamphlet on the museum of Italy.

Since: Sep 09

Quesnel, Canada

#1797 Apr 11, 2013
From the book,“CONFESSIONS of a FRENCH CATHOLIC PRIEST … edited by Samuel F. B. Morse, A. M.… published in 1837 by John S. Taylor, New York, comes the following.

*A singular proof of the despotism of bishops over their priests is, that they forbid them reading any book at pleasure, especially when it contains some opinion contrary to the decisions of the Church. This prohibition extends so far that priests can, no more than others, read any part of the work of a man who has written against Popery. This is called interdiction,“in odium auctoris,” by hatred of the author. I saw once a very odd proof of the absurdity of this rule. I was with a pious priest at a gentleman’s, who, upon a discussion with us, brought, in proof of his opinion, a volume of the Encyclopedia, an interdicted book in its whole extent, even in matters foreign to religion. Consequently the page referred to, which treated of flowers, was as much interdicted as the remainder. I, in my superstition, took great care not to look at the book at all; for says our theology,“it is sufficient only to read six lines to incur the penalty.” When we left the house I told him he was interdicted; he remembered the prohibition, and avowed that it was so with bitterness. He was obliged to abstain from all the functions of his ministry until he had received absolution from a competent confessor,(for every priest has not this power); and all because he had read some lines of a chapter on flowers. Had I been in his situation I should have done like him.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1798 Apr 12, 2013
The very promise of "sainthood" ought to have made followers of such nonsense suspicious that the theologians were up to NO GOOD!

To teach that a god wanted people to kill each other and write it into books that were supposed to be based on holiness, has been the nature of religion ever since the first Jews broke away from polytheism to monotheism. The one-god dogma created a blight of bloodshed, torture and murder on humanity that has continued to this day.

Humans are all arrogant by nature, but theologians are VERY arrogant in the sense of believing they can read the future and get it right.

I don't detest the theologians, but I do detest the lies.

I suggest that it's time to stop what way back when, those theologians started with their "divide and conquer cults," and take back ownership of our own thoughts.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1799 Apr 12, 2013
And I don't mean to suggest that religion BEFORE the one-god dogma was based on kindness, as it was NOT.

The Pagans believed that the gods needed sacrifices to appease their wrath, and the Pagans burned humans and non-human animals in the flames to try to calm the supposed wrath OF those imaginary gods. The ex-Jew Catholics "learned" about burning others in the flames FROM the Pagans.

Religion has never been based on kindness. What was and is based on fear can never add up to humans being kind to each other. It's just NOT possible. Such fear-based teaching, always resorts to "divide and conquer."

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1800 Apr 12, 2013
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1484

dec 05 - Pope Innocent VIII issued aBull of 1484 * deploring the spread of witchcraft and heresy inGermany ?. s.1486 He ordered that all cats belonging to witches scheduled to be burned, be also burned. Kraemer and Sprenger, two Dominican friars, had induced Pope Innocent VIII to issue a bull authorizing them to extirpate witchcraft in Germany.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1801 Apr 12, 2013
How many innocent people were put to death after horrendous torture in the name of religion may never be known ... but the history is vile, corrupt and inhumane by any standards of decency.

To teach that something so corrupt was holy had to master-minded by very cunning manipulative humans indeed.

If we don't shed our selves of religion, it will be passed on to the next generations, and the onus will be on US!!!

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1802 Apr 12, 2013
Luther was as corrupt and vile in his nature as were the popes. He simply wanted to marry his "beloved" and so he changed the dogmas to suit his own desires. He also suggested killing the peasants who were starving to death if they dared to rebel against the governing forces. His belly was full ... so what did he care if people starved to death?

Those theologians were, and ARE NOT, to be admired.
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1463

jan 17 - Frederick the Wise was born.As the Elector of Saxony, Frederick was Martin Luther's ?+* prince and, though a devout Catholic, went to great lengths to protect Luther from the papacy.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1803 Apr 12, 2013
And maybe prince Frederick the "wise" also wanted to marry someone and feign the idea that a god supported the dogma, and THAT is why he protected Luther from the wrath of the pope.

It's common sense that a Catholic would not have supported a protester such as Luther, unless he also protested the teaching of the pope.

One is only ever faithful to one's own desire, and if the religion doesn't fit the desires, it was and is common practise to change the religion.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1804 Apr 12, 2013
MichelleMC still seems to be "faithful" to the idea that "saints" will be rewarded with eternal bliss in a hereafter.

Keep in mind that the popes that ordered the torture and murder of countless innocent humans were thereafter canonized as saints.

Those popes taught that the mythical father of Jesus ... a Jew ... would reward them for claiming that only Catholics could be saved by belief in the son of a Jewish savior named Jesus.

Michelle (ever since I read her posts) was always off in her mental illusion of fantasy in the belief that she would one day become a saint for being faithful to Catholicism.

If you don't wake up from your slumber, others can't do it for you.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1805 Apr 12, 2013
Religion was handy.

It never was about paying heed to the will of any deity. It was about preaching what the deity expected of the followers, and of course what was taught always aligned to the desires of the bankers, the queens and kings and the popes. And of course they all taught different dogmas, so they were always fighting and killing each other in the name of the same supposed "god."
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Medici Italian family of bankers and merchants that ruled Florence and later Tuscany for most of the period from 1434 to 1737 and was famous for its patronage of learning and the arts throughout the Renaissance. Unlike most of the great Italian ruling dynasties, the Medici were not primarily military men, gaining their power through wealth and political astuteness rather than force. Their influence extended beyond the city and the region, for the family produced four popes and two queens of France.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O3-Medici.ht...

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1806 Apr 12, 2013
Imagine how many Catholics lived in squalor while supporting those men who lived the lives of kings.
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Uncle John’s Bathroom Reader … Plunges Into History Again

The Gates of Paradise

Room with a view

Florence is an embarrassment of artistic riches. It was the home to the Medici, the greatest art patrons of all time; they and their employees, such as Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci, left their mark all over the city.

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1807 Apr 12, 2013
How much suffering occurred to bring such art to the fore, so that today the tourism in the vatican brings even more abundant wealth to the men who built their fortunes on the back-breaking and heart-breaking suffering of others?

When you go the vatican, I suggest you don't just focus on the gold and glitter. That's just surface stuff. There's another story behind the pomp and glory. A story that they want "at all costs" to hide from your "SIGHT."

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1808 Apr 12, 2013
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1389

x - Cosimo de Medici, Florentine merchant banker. The Medici family served as the world-wide tithe and tax collector for the Catholic Church. d.1464

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1809 Apr 12, 2013
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1378
x - The Great Western Schism splits the Catholic Church u.1417 when two opposing are elected, Pope Urban V + in Rome and Pope Clement VII in Avignon. re. List of Popes

Since: Sep 09

Vanderhoof, Canada

#1810 Apr 12, 2013
Here was a Jew who was willing to become a traitor to Judaism in order to sit on the throne as a Catholic anti-pope.
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feb 14 - Jewish Cardinal Pietro Pierleone elected as anti-pope Anacletus II.
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an·ti·pope

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Noun

A person established as pope in opposition to one held by others to be canonically chosen.

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