Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256357 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Alex123 WM

London, UK

#170644 Apr 4, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
Out of context, you can't pick and mix sections of the Quran you need to understand it and what it is referring to, for example 8:12
This verse and the verses before and after were revealed about the Battle of Badr, which occurred in Arabia in the early seventh century. A battle in which the pagans of Makkah traveled more than 200 miles to Madinah with an army of about 1000 to destroy Muslims. Prophet Muhammad peace be on him and fellow Muslims had suffered severe persecutions and torture for 13 years in the city of Makkah. And now that they had fled Makkah and found a sanctuary in the city of Madinah, they were once again threatened. The Muslim Army was only about 300 strong. God Almighty gave the order to Muslims to fight to defend their lives and faith. The enemy came to them with the intent to kill Muslims. It was a war to defend themselves and their Faith. It was a war imposed upon Muslims.
This Surah / section of the Quran is speaking about this as above
All that you have quoted are taken out of context of the exact meaning, you can't just take extracts like that you need to understand what it relates to as a whole ... What is written before and after
Really I wouldn't practise a religion which encouraged violence....
Stop being ignorant
Salaams Sister, and absolutely correct. Transgression or conversion by force is not the way of Islam.

Quoting out of context is something very common among the self confessed "rational, agnostic, sitting on the fence, secular pagan atheists" who are somewhat shy to accept the possibility that we are products of intelligent design.
The same people recognise the fact that Lamborghini and bugatti veyron are product of intelligent design.

That is because they may be very modest and humble people unlike us, the arrogant religious people, who have the audacity to "delude" ourselves that we come from the BEST designer and manufacturer EVER!!!!

They believe that they came from humble monkeys by accident and not even as well designed as an old Lada!

Salaams
ana

London, UK

#170645 Apr 4, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You talk like a Muslim and act like a Muslim, so you must be a Muslim, right?

There is your answer.
Muslims are historically known liars.

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (16:106)- Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

Qur'an (3:28)- This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”

Qur'an (9:3)-“…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

Qur'an (2:225)-“Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts”

Qur'an (66:2)-“Allah has already ordained for you,(O men), the dissolution of your oaths”

Qur'an (3:54)-“And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.” The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.(See also

8:30 and 10:21)

Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.
Shamma I don't like your aggressive language

Just out of interest where are you from?
ana

London, UK

#170646 Apr 4, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
<quoted text>Salaams Sister, and absolutely correct. Transgression or conversion by force is not the way of Islam.

Quoting out of context is something very common among the self confessed "rational, agnostic, sitting on the fence, secular pagan atheists" who are somewhat shy to accept the possibility that we are products of intelligent design.
The same people recognise the fact that Lamborghini and bugatti veyron are product of intelligent design.

That is because they may be very modest and humble people unlike us, the arrogant religious people, who have the audacity to "delude" ourselves that we come from the BEST designer and manufacturer EVER!!!!

They believe that they came from humble monkeys by accident and not even as well designed as an old Lada!

Salaams
I am now reading more about Dr Rafat Amari who is a Christian Arab who has studied Islam for over 20 years, he claims there is no historical or archeological proof that the Kaaba existed prior to the Christian 4th century, but I'm pretty sure that some historical Jewish scripts acknowledge the Kaaba, I am unable to find any documents or reference to dr Amari debating with Muslim scholars

I have heard of him before... But not much in open debate and theological discussion
ana

London, UK

#170647 Apr 4, 2013
Alex123 WM wrote:
<quoted text>Salaams Sister, and absolutely correct. Transgression or conversion by force is not the way of Islam.

Quoting out of context is something very common among the self confessed "rational, agnostic, sitting on the fence, secular pagan atheists" who are somewhat shy to accept the possibility that we are products of intelligent design.
The same people recognise the fact that Lamborghini and bugatti veyron are product of intelligent design.

That is because they may be very modest and humble people unlike us, the arrogant religious people, who have the audacity to "delude" ourselves that we come from the BEST designer and manufacturer EVER!!!!

They believe that they came from humble monkeys by accident and not even as well designed as an old Lada!

Salaams
Alex are u a revert as your name is Alex
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#170648 Apr 4, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
And 3:56 is speaking about going to hell if you do not believe in god... And reject god
It isn't asking Muslims to incite violence... Bit confused there
Honestly it's easy to pick out sections and take them out of context
You know for an example if you studied English Literature, when you quote from a source you cannot ignore what comes before and what comes after what you have quoted, because the quotation can be taken out of context in regards to it's actual meaning
Many have failed English literature papers or dissertations by simply taking quotations out of context ... Same applies here
Correct again Sister.
They will not say that the Judge who passes the sentence of death or life imprisonment is cruel!!
The secular pagans have got everything upside down!
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#170649 Apr 4, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
lol!
You know Shamma, this is exactly how Christianity was pushed down the throats of masses by shrewd men. Folks accepted it because they were scared of further insults and ridicule by the uneducated violent presbyters.
lol..
Also many are brainwashed... "YOU ARE BORN A SINNER; THAT MAN DIED for YOU!!!BE GRATEFUL to him"!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#170650 Apr 4, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you read about "Craig Winn" and his awful self published prophets of Doom, many of these quotations are copy and pasted from his book which are appearing all over the Internet. At least the previous poster quoted a legitimate translation of the Quran, although out of context...
An imam called Jalal Abualrub has written a text called prophet of mercy , read it, it's very interesting
Yes, Ana. I have read.

Craig Win is a hardcore Jesus Freak, an Islamophobe and an ignorant polemic fool.

The man lies through his teeth just as the founding fathers of the Church lied trough theirs.

Thanks

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#170651 Apr 4, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
At least dr rafat Amari is a real orthodox Christian, not any of the new wave trifle which was spread by European missionary's throughout Africa, eastern asia and Americas
Why don't you Shamma read some of his books and base your own opinions rather than copy and pasting things which you don't understand ??
I understand you Muslim.
You took an oath to Muhammad.

You are not a free person.
You owe your soul to Muhammad.
And Muhammad owes his soul to the devil.

When Muhammad declared there is only one God, Muhammad was referring to the jinn devil god called Allah that the ancient Arabs worshiped in the Kaaba as the main supreme god.

Muhammad never worshiped the God of the Holy Bible.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#170652 Apr 4, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
I copy and pasted this ..
The Church started killing unbelievers as early as the 4th century. The killing (often with torture) of heretics, church splinter groups, dissenters, atheists, agnostics, deists, pagans, infidels and unbelievers was supported by almost all mainstream Christian theology for over a thousand years, starting with the intolerant St. Augustine (died 430 AD).
As soon as Christianity became legal in the Roman Empire by imperial edict (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.
Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer." [DA468]
Pagan services became punishable by death in 356.[DA468]
Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues.[DA469]
According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian teachings..."
In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities.[DA466]
The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.
[DO19-25]
Mission
Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded.[DO30]
Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany.[WW223]
15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Number of victims unknown.[DO30]
16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized" Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde".
Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage.[SH99, 225]
True that.

I always call it The Darkest and the Filthiest History of Christianity and I am not alone in saying that.
ana

London, UK

#170653 Apr 4, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>I understand you Muslim.
You took an oath to Muhammad.

You are not a free person.
You owe your soul to Muhammad.
And Muhammad owes his soul to the devil.

When Muhammad declared there is only one God, Muhammad was referring to the jinn devil god called Allah that the ancient Arabs worshiped in the Kaaba as the main supreme god.

Muhammad never worshiped the God of the Holy Bible.
So why do Christian Arabs and an Arabic bible dating back before prophet mohamed refer to god as Allah

Allah simply means god in Arabic
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#170654 Apr 4, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The historical records of Muslims is there in their Hadiths and the Quran.
<quoted text>You don't get it Muslim.
Those battles were not fought for protecting against foreign invaders.
Those battles were fought to spread Muhammad's religion in the name of a Satanic jinn devil god called Allah.
The same as it is in our time, Muslims are fighting to spread Muhammad's Satanic jinn devil religion.
Muhammad was not a prophet sent from God to fight for God.
Muhammad worshiped jinn devils.
Muhammad murdered innocent for the sake of the jinn devil god Allah.
Muslims hide the truth about Muhammad and the Muslim religion.
Their claim there is only one means there is only the jinn devil god Allah.
The jinn devil god Muhammad and Muslims murder for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =T_8LIAcGkvUXX
There is only one Devil in the world and that Devil is the Church, Trinitarian Christian!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#170655 Apr 4, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>I understand you Muslim.
You took an oath to Muhammad.
You are not a free person.
You owe your soul to Muhammad.
And Muhammad owes his soul to the devil.
When Muhammad declared there is only one God, Muhammad was referring to the jinn devil god called Allah that the ancient Arabs worshiped in the Kaaba as the main supreme god.
Muhammad never worshiped the God of the Holy Bible.
Muhammad worshipped the God of Abraham and the Jews, which means the God of the Jewish Torah. He never worshipped the absurd Trinity or the Triune God of the Christian Bible.

The God of your Bible is neither the God Jews nor the God of Muslims. You can now see what a sour pickle your triune God is in. An absurd God that makes no sense. Your triune God is Bullshit!
ana

London, UK

#170656 Apr 4, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>Muhammad worshipped the God of Abraham and the Jews, which means the God of the Jewish Torah. He never worshipped the absurd Trinity or the Triune God of the Christian Bible.

The God of your Bible is neither the God Jews nor the God of Muslims. You can now see what a sour pickle your triune God is in. An absurd God that makes no sense. Your triune God is Bullshit!
Where is Shamma from do u know??

Don't swear at shama not cool bro
John

North Lakes, Australia

#170658 Apr 5, 2013
You muztards can talk as much bullshit as you like, but we can see you.
LOL.
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/islam/hamas-pedop...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZjrrYYuebok/TJem22i...
http://www.teapartytribune.com/wp-content/upl...
http://pumapac.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11...
Seriously, why don't you hostile despicable vile subhuman parasite beasts just piss off out of the western world before we slaughter you for your crimes.
Adios creeps.
ana

London, UK

#170659 Apr 5, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>Oh yes ana, if you say so.
LOL.
The usual muslim shtick when confronted with the truth about islam.
Somehow it's all a mistranslation.
Spare me the bullshit.
No, craig Winn is the liar... You need to be careful who u are quoting , what about researching through more factual solid evidence rather than conspiracy propagated hatred type sources such as craig Winn, who has been exposed as a liar and just out to fulfill his dream of becoming president of the United States... Sorry it's laughable John
ana

London, UK

#170660 Apr 5, 2013
John wrote:
You muztards can talk as much bullshit as you like, but we can see you.
LOL.
http://iranpoliticsclub.net/islam/hamas-pedop...
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZjrrYYuebok/TJem22i...
http://www.teapartytribune.com/wp-content/upl...
http://pumapac.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11...
Seriously, why don't you hostile despicable vile subhuman parasite beasts just piss off out of the western world before we slaughter you for your crimes.
Adios creeps.
Your the only one demonstrating hateful xenophobic traits here John the bounty hunter
uhuh

Spain

#170661 Apr 5, 2013
ana wrote:
I am now reading more about Dr Rafat Amari who claims there is no historical or archeological proof that the Kaaba existed prior to the 4th century, but I'm pretty sure that some historical Jewish scripts acknowledge the Kaaba.
no there isn't any
other than a midrash telling of Abraham's visits to Ishmael and his wife in midbar Paran twice
uhuh

Spain

#170662 Apr 5, 2013
the spring that was shown to Hagar by an angel was the same spring that accompanied the Israelites through the desert - Miriam's well
this "zam zam" was created on the Friday of Creation
uhuh

Spain

#170663 Apr 5, 2013
the "ebionaioi" (poor men) rejected Paul
the "alogi" (deniers of Logos) rejected "John"
the "pneumatomachoi" (enemies of the Spirit) denied the Spirit as God

they were christians, they all loved Jesus
what/who brought them to extinction that not even their writings survived?
Alex123 WM

London, UK

#170664 Apr 5, 2013
ana wrote:
<quoted text>
I am now reading more about Dr Rafat Amari who is a Christian Arab who has studied Islam for over 20 years, he claims there is no historical or archeological proof that the Kaaba existed prior to the Christian 4th century, but I'm pretty sure that some historical Jewish scripts acknowledge the Kaaba, I am unable to find any documents or reference to dr Amari debating with Muslim scholars
I have heard of him before... But not much in open debate and theological discussion
I know sister there are thousands of Anti Islamic Sites and literature.
I try not to visit these sites as they will increase the hit rate to move them up the search list.

While Islam provides the best answer for today and tomorrow, why let them waste our time taking us along a diversionary route?

Islam is very much about Tawheed recognising the ONE true God and attributing Oneness to Allah who is Unique, Eternal, Almighty, All powerful and with no partners or peers.

All created things including the Kaaba take a back seat when talking about, living under and breathing in even a small part of Allah's power, grace and majesty.
Salaams

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