Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Jesus is the word of God, not (as Muslims generally teach) in the sense that he was created by divine fiat, by the word of God, but in the sense that he is the one who expresses the mind and will of God most fully to men. Through Jesus, God has spoken and acted in a unique way.(Chapman, You Go and Do the Same, p. 81).
If Christ were a Word of God, it would be clear that He was only one expression of God's will; but since God Himself calls Him "the Word of God", it is clear that He must be the one and only perfect expression of God's will, and the only perfect manifestation of God.(Zwemer, The Muslim Christ, p. 37).
The Qur'an says no more of Adam than that "he learnt from his Lord words of inspiration" (Surah 2.37), that is, the kalimaat were sent down mir-rabbihi, "from his Lord", but in the case of Jesus it is said that he himself is the kalimatullah, the "Word of God". As there is, nonetheless, no explanation of the title in the Qur'an, we shall have to turn, as we did with the title Al-Masih, to the Christian Bible to find its real meaning and see how it can be used as a typical point of agreement between Christians and Muslims upon which a Gospel witness can be based.
Jeremiah would definitely provide some fun about the "word of God" or the "Word of God".

Jeremiah 1:4 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying: 5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee; I have appointed thee a prophet unto the nations.

11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying:'Jeremiah, what seest thou?' "

Jeremiah 7:1 "The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying: 2 Stand in the gate of the LORD'S house, and proclaim there this word, and say: Hear the word of the LORD, all ye of Judah, that enter in at these gates to worship the LORD."

Was that Jesus, who went to Jeremiah?
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"ALL of Israel have a share in the world-to-come, as stated 'Your people are ALL righteous, they shall inherit the land forever'(Isa 60:21)" (mishnah Sanh 90a) oral Torah

every Jew has a "portion" waiting for him, no worries
even a secular Jew or a wicked Jew will get his portion albeit of smaller size (so long you are not an apostate Jew)
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SIGNS OF ALLAH IN SOLAR SYSTEM

Who Mengal.

The earth rotates on its axis at one thousand miles an hour; if it turned at one hundred miles an hour, our days and nights would be ten times as long as now, and the hot sun would then burn up our vegetation during each long day, while in the long night any surviving sprout would freeze.

Again, the sun, source of our life, has a surface temperature of 12,000 degrees Fahrenheit, and our earth is, just far enough away so that this 'eternal fire" warms us just enough and not too much! If the sun gave off only one-half its present radiation, we would freeze, and if it gave half as much more, we would roast.

The slant of the earth, tilted at an angle of 23 degrees, gives us our seasons; if it had not been so tilted, vapors from the ocean would move north and south, piling up for us continents of ice. If our moon was, say, only 50 thousand miles away instead of its actual distance, our tides would be so enormous that twice a day all continents would be submerged; even the mountains would soon be eroded away.
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THIS WORLD IS TEST AND TOIL.
Quran-LXVII—
2-He Who created Death
And Life, that He
May try which of you
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In Might, Oft-Forgiving.-

According to Quran man has been sent to earth for toil and test. The rules of creator for every body are equal and same. Quran further clears this position that the men only get that, for which he make effort and hard works. Either for this world or for the next world, he earns that, for which he tries or work. According to rules the Lord give each person two chances in his life for making him and his children to become prosperous in this life, It is up to that person who avail the chances for him or for his children. God Almighty never destined for certain group of people to be wealthy and others be poor for all times. It is for person to avail the chances and facilities which he gets. However certain people work hard for him and his children so they get their share of hard working but some people do miss chances for himself and for his children And god Almighty according to rules and facility which they avail test them. However the succeeds those who become succeed on the Day of Judgment, Loss and utter loss for those who still wandering in doubts despite of evidence and reaching of Message to them through His Messengers. So it is time to leave the way lead for utter loss the loss which could not be compensated.

TERRORISM AND ISLAM

The very teaching of Islam or Holy Quran (book
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TERRORISM AND ISLAM

The very teaching of Islam or Holy Quran (book of Islam) gives with following directions


“O; People or mankind indeed we have created you from single man and women. Than we made you(different) nation and caste so that you identify to each other. Actually in the sight of Allah the most respectable or Hon'ble of you are that who is God cautious or fearing. Indeed Allah is all knowing and acquainted all things”.


Look this teaching of Islam or Quran, where do give place terrorism? these teaching i.e. teachings of Islam declares all mankind as brother who are progeny of single father and mother i.e. Adam and Eve.
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RADICAL ISLAM

Radical Islam actually searching its roots which west has destroyed after breaking the caliphate of Muslims in Turkey? Since than there exists no any Islamic political system, which guide the Muslim Omah as a whole nor there is a any Madresa(school), where Islamic political system be taught as a subject, in result the Islamic students and radicals on basis of little knowledge about penal and civil laws trying to correct the society which is not possible, and further more interference of west in Muslim countries has deteriorated the Islamic world. Again the Flowing of money through N.G.O,s further has aggravated the situation which is altogether not acceptable to these students and clerks as such same has snatched the peace of Muslim world including the West, It would be better that Islamic world should be left to regulate their own affairs through their legal system and west should avoid to interfere and try to implement of their own system, than one can expect the peace and harmony in west and Islamic world.
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Answering Gilchrist, the ignorant fool!
Please inform Gilchrist that there are no caps or capital letters in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic.
The only UNIQUENESS of Jesus in Islam is, that he was the son of Mary, whom no man touched and she conceived Jesus by God's command. No man fathered Jesus.
In Qur'aan, Jesus is not the Word, WHICH IS USED IN CAPS by Christianity. That biblical word Word, has no place in Qur'aan.
In 4:171, the "word" was the message sent to Mary that she would conceive a child. And that word or promise was fulfilled. And Mary did not deliver 'a word or message', which was conveyed through Gabriel. She delivered baby Jesus.
Here is a translation in modern English by yours truly:
4:171 People of the Book! Do not cross the line in your religion and do not speak anything against Allah except the truth. This messiah Jesus, the son of Mary, was Allah’s messenger and fulfillment of word, He had conveyed to Mary and a soul from Him.
So believe in Allah and his messengers. Do not say,“Three”! Desist! It would be better for you. Indeed Allah is the only One God. He is too high in glory to have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth, and Allah is enough as a Guardian. "
So, the ruh or the soul of Jesus came from God. In other words, God gave life to the zygote or the foetus of brother Jesus.
"Kalimatim-min-allah " means "word from Allah" and "Kalimatim-minhu" means "word from Him". It is still from Allah.
Allah NEVER said in Qur'aan, "Jesus is my soul or my spirit or my word".
Proven: you make it up as you go.

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Hello, uhuh
I beg to disagree with the sexual intercourse part. There is nothing in the Jewish law that permits sex with a little girl.
There is nothing wrong with betrothal. In many tribal cultures, folks still give a baby in betrothal to another child and they marry only when they are adults.
& if they choose not to agree to this arrangement? Choosing a mate is a personal & private matter...not to be infringed upon by social edicts & certainly not a choice to be foisted upon children.
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Proven: you make it up as you go.
I knew that you will come up with nothing but a one-liner.

The idea was that you could forward that post to ignorant Gilchrist, so that all ignorant fools at answering-Islam could get educated and the silent majority of the readers here could also understand that the only uniqueness of Jesus is that he was born of his own mother.

And it also showed the uniqueness of my dearest mother Maryam (Mary). So, she was also unique, not the son only.

Please raed and understand first, the forward this post again to those mentioned. Thanks

" Answering Gilchrist, the ignorant fool!

Please inform Gilchrist that there are no caps or capital letters in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic.

The only UNIQUENESS of Jesus in Islam is, that he was the son of Mary, whom no man touched and she conceived Jesus by God's command. No man fathered Jesus.

In Qur'aan, Jesus is not the Word, WHICH IS USED IN CAPS by Christianity. That biblical word Word, has no place in Qur'aan.

In 4:171, the "word" was the message sent to Mary that she would conceive a child. And that word or promise was fulfilled. And Mary did not deliver 'a word or message', which was conveyed through Gabriel. She delivered baby Jesus.

Here is a translation in modern English by yours truly:

4:171 People of the Book! Do not cross the line in your religion and do not speak anything against Allah except the truth. This messiah Jesus, the son of Mary, was Allah’s messenger and fulfillment of word, He had conveyed to Mary and a soul from Him.

So believe in Allah and his messengers. Do not say,“Three”! Desist! It would be better for you. Indeed Allah is the only One God. He is too high in glory to have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth, and Allah is enough as a Guardian."

So, the ruh or the soul of Jesus came from God. In other words, God gave life to the zygote or the foetus of brother Jesus.

"Kalimatim-min-allah " means "word from Allah" and "Kalimatim-minhu" means "word from Him". It is still from Allah.

Allah NEVER said in Qur'aan, "Jesus is my soul or my spirit or my word". "
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& if they choose not to agree to this arrangement? Choosing a mate is a personal & private matter...not to be infringed upon by social edicts & certainly not a choice to be foisted upon children.
Greetings and welcome back, Borg.

Indeed but I was talking about the tribal culture. It happens mostly in the tribal areas.

Among modern and educated Muslims, there is no such problem.
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I knew that you will come up with nothing but a one-liner.
The idea was that you could forward that post to ignorant Gilchrist, so that all ignorant fools at answering-Islam could get educated and the silent majority of the readers here could also understand that the only uniqueness of Jesus is that he was born of his own mother.
And it also showed the uniqueness of my dearest mother Maryam (Mary). So, she was also unique, not the son only.
Please raed and understand first, the forward this post again to those mentioned. Thanks
" Answering Gilchrist, the ignorant fool!
Please inform Gilchrist that there are no caps or capital letters in Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic.
The only UNIQUENESS of Jesus in Islam is, that he was the son of Mary, whom no man touched and she conceived Jesus by God's command. No man fathered Jesus.
In Qur'aan, Jesus is not the Word, WHICH IS USED IN CAPS by Christianity. That biblical word Word, has no place in Qur'aan.
In 4:171, the "word" was the message sent to Mary that she would conceive a child. And that word or promise was fulfilled. And Mary did not deliver 'a word or message', which was conveyed through Gabriel. She delivered baby Jesus.
Here is a translation in modern English by yours truly:
4:171 People of the Book! Do not cross the line in your religion and do not speak anything against Allah except the truth. This messiah Jesus, the son of Mary, was Allah’s messenger and fulfillment of word, He had conveyed to Mary and a soul from Him.
So believe in Allah and his messengers. Do not say,“Three”! Desist! It would be better for you. Indeed Allah is the only One God. He is too high in glory to have a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth, and Allah is enough as a Guardian."
So, the ruh or the soul of Jesus came from God. In other words, God gave life to the zygote or the foetus of brother Jesus.
"Kalimatim-min-allah " means "word from Allah" and "Kalimatim-minhu" means "word from Him". It is still from Allah.
Allah NEVER said in Qur'aan, "Jesus is my soul or my spirit or my word". "
Forward it to Gilchrist yourself, No Nails.
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Pickthall: O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease!(it is) better for you!- Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.

Yusuf Ali: O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: Glory be to Him:(far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs.

Shakir: O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.

Arberry: People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and say not as to God but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not,'Three.' Refrain; better is it for you. God is only One God. Glory be to Him -- That He should have a son! To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth; God suffices for a guardian.
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http://www.quranbrowser.com/cg i/bin/get.cgi?searchstring=4:1 71
Pickthall: O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease!(it is) better for you!- Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
Yusuf Ali: O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: Glory be to Him:(far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs.
Shakir: O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.
Arberry: People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and say not as to God but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not,'Three.' Refrain; better is it for you. God is only One God. Glory be to Him -- That He should have a son! To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth; God suffices for a guardian.
Thanks for quoting various translations, which confirm the following:

1. That the people, who founded Christianity, crossed the red line and lied that God had a son.

2. That Jesus was nothing but just a messenger of God.

3. That Jesus was the fulfillment of the word or message given or committed to Mary and Jesus himself, was neither a Word or a word. Thus the 'Word' or 'word' refers not to Jesus.

4. That God gave life to Jesus, when he was in his mother's womb. So, his soul or spirit came FROM God, just as everybody's soul or spirit comes FROM God.

5. That Jesus was not the Spirit or Soul of God.

6. That God has no son.

7. That Trinity or the three of the Trinity, IS a lie.

8. That God is only One God. Glory be to Him, not to anybody else.

So brother Jesus is OUT! He has zero divinity.
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That's your problem. You are a bit short on insight.
What you were is critical to all this because you simply cannot understand the explanation that there is no contradiction.
You have a blind spot.
Just like the blind spot of hassan/hussanism because you were never a Muslim.
Seems you were not even a mohammadan, and certainly not fortunate enough to have been a pious loving caring Muslim.
That accounts for your convoluted blinkered way of thinking.
Why is there no contradiction?
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Thanks for quoting various translations, which confirm the following:
1. That the people, who founded Christianity, crossed the red line and lied that God had a son.
2. That Jesus was nothing but just a messenger of God.
3. That Jesus was the fulfillment of the word or message given or committed to Mary and Jesus himself, was neither a Word or a word. Thus the 'Word' or 'word' refers not to Jesus.
4. That God gave life to Jesus, when he was in his mother's womb. So, his soul or spirit came FROM God, just as everybody's soul or spirit comes FROM God.
5. That Jesus was not the Spirit or Soul of God.
6. That God has no son.
7. That Trinity or the three of the Trinity, IS a lie.
8. That God is only One God. Glory be to Him, not to anybody else.
So brother Jesus is OUT! He has zero divinity.
The passages from the Qur'an only PROVE that Mohammad believed certain things about Jesus and the nature of God that contradict what Christianity taught in his day and continues to teach about Jesus and the nature of God.
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& if they choose not to agree to this arrangement? Choosing a mate is a personal & private matter...not to be infringed upon by social edicts & certainly not a choice to be foisted upon children.
rabbee: does your union, please or displease G-D? is, a rather public matter. since it's effects, can effect people beyond the two in question. if your union resulted in, more calamity in the world. is that, a good thing?

if adam were to choose or be given with, a different mate. then all of you would cease to exist, the next time G-D gave this Story of Creation. you would never again, be resurrected.
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Greetings and welcome back, Borg.
Indeed but I was talking about the tribal culture. It happens mostly in the tribal areas.
Among modern and educated Muslims, there is no such problem.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22005...

British Muslim clerics are willing to carry out sharia marriages involving child brides as young as 12, an investigation has found.

Two imams said they would be prepared to officiate at the wedding of an underage girl to a man in his twenties, despite fears the pair would later have sex.
The revelations have led the Home Office to confirm that such ceremonies will be examined in the Government’s forthcoming Bill to outlaw forced marriages.
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<quoted text>The passages from the Qur'an only PROVE that Mohammad believed certain things about Jesus and the nature of God that contradict what Christianity taught in his day and continues to teach about Jesus and the nature of God.
The passages of Qur'aan prove that everything that Christianity taught, was totally wrong and was a lie. It taught what Jesus DID NOT teach. Period!
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22005...

British Muslim clerics are willing to carry out sharia marriages involving child brides as young as 12, an investigation has found.

Two imams said they would be prepared to officiate at the wedding of an underage girl to a man in his twenties, despite fears the pair would later have sex.

The revelations have led the Home Office to confirm that such ceremonies will be examined in the Government’s forthcoming Bill to outlaw forced marriages.
The two imams are nuts and dimwits. I hope the British Home Office forms a Muslim Marriage Bureau and only well-educated and approved Imams can perform marriages.

Forced marriages are not permitted in Islam.

If I were the investigative reporter, I would have asked the Imam, if he could let me have his 12 y.o. daughter in marriage.
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The passages of Qur'aan prove that everything that Christianity taught, was totally wrong and was a lie. It taught what Jesus DID NOT teach. Period!
Braindead Muslim Zombie,

Your fundamental error is in believing that the Qur'aan proves anything at all beyond the fact that Mohammad believed that what he dictated to his scribes was the truth.

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