Arizona hospital loses Catholic status over surgery to end woman's pregnancy, save her life

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A Phoenix hospital has been stripped of its ability to call itself Catholic because of a surgery that ended a woman's pregnancy to save her life.
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sigh

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Dec 21, 2010
When did priests become medical experts?
swschrad

Monroe, LA

#2 Dec 21, 2010
perhaps hospitals are not meant to operate under religious orders.
good riddance

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Dec 21, 2010
Well at least now the hospital can focus on the business of practicing medicine rather than bowing to religious zealots.
The Big Bopper

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Dec 21, 2010
I remember when I worked at St. Luke's Hospital in duluth, that we would get "transfers" from St. Mary's Hospital when the life of the mother was to be saved.... it is just how it goes. Baby comes first before the life of the mother.
Crusty

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Dec 21, 2010
the catholic church prefers their followers to die rather than get an abortion. Better dead than to have not followed their teachings. Of course when it comes to their little boy lovers, they lie and coverup for 20yrs to avoid the damnation of it.

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Shellybell

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Dec 21, 2010
It is painful to think that a loving God would condone alowing a vital human being in the prime of her life to die in order to bring a life into this world. I don't believe in abortion either, but this was clearly a necessary and the right decision to make. This is one more example why many are leaving the Catholic Church, as I have done. It is a pity that the Church doesn't see what is happening.
Mikw

Bonita Springs, FL

#9 Dec 21, 2010
The catholic church is right up their with islam when it comes to wanting to control everyone's life. Just a bunch of old old men who haven't the foggiest idea as to what the average person faces on a daily basis. Let the fools preach in their churches but leave the rest of us along. We don't need their BS.
Hockey Bob

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Dec 21, 2010
Leave it to the roman catholic church to equally value a fully grown autonomous 20+ year old woman, and an 11 week old undifferentiated mass of cells incapable of self-sufficiency.

*nuclear facepalm*

Hey, guys - the Dark Ages have been over with for some time now. Can we please keep your ridiculous superstitions from interfering with medical and scientific progress, please? kthxbye.

Since: Jun 09

Lincoln, NE

#11 Dec 21, 2010
Shellybell wrote:
It is painful to think that a loving God would condone alowing a vital human being in the prime of her life to die in order to bring a life into this world. I don't believe in abortion either, but this was clearly a necessary and the right decision to make. This is one more example why many are leaving the Catholic Church, as I have done. It is a pity that the Church doesn't see what is happening.
Yes, and at only 11 weeks gestation, the baby was sure to die if her health deteriorated. So we could have had two dead. Does that make any sense? Like you, I also left the Catholic Church. Partly because a priest told a teenage rape victim her attack was her fault, and partly because of the track record with perpetuating and condoning sexual abuse.
Mark

Phoenix, AZ

#12 Dec 21, 2010
Another sad day for the Catholic church.
conservative observations

Saint Paul, MN

#13 Dec 21, 2010
Wow! How ignorant of the church to do that!
Annie

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Dec 21, 2010
Is that Dr. Bishop Thomas Olmsted? No? Then please, stfu.
Hockey Bob

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Dec 21, 2010
Shellybell wrote:
It is painful to think that a loving God would condone alowing a vital human being in the prime of her life to die in order to bring a life into this world. I don't believe in abortion either, but this was clearly a necessary and the right decision to make. This is one more example why many are leaving the Catholic Church, as I have done. It is a pity that the Church doesn't see what is happening.
I, too, left the catholic church after suffering over a decade of their dogmatic indoctrination, which was disguised as primary and secondary schools. However, your comment, "I don't believe in abortion either,", makes me cringe. You don't have to "believe" in it; your opinion of it is irrelevant. You have every right to choose NOT to have an abortion. What the religious right fails to comprehend is that no one has the right to force any woman to become a birthing machine. True, the decision to undergo an abortive procedure is an intensely personal decision, and it should not be taken lightly; but I have an incredibly difficult time with self-important busybodies, who are purportedly forbidden from having ***any sex at all***(i.e. vatican operatives, local clergy and priests, etc.), telling any woman what they can do with their own bodies. It's arrogance to the point of criminality.

As for the hospital, perhaps it's best that Bronze Age myths and superstitions are left out of scientific and medical disciplines. One should strive for that, at least, if you are really trying to help people.
Smokumifyagotum

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Dec 21, 2010
Incredible70 wrote:
Typical Catholic hypocrite.
The hypocrisy would have been to condone the abortion. there was a way to save both:
"The mother had a disease that needed to be treated. But instead of treating the disease, St. Joseph's medical staff and ethics committee decided that the healthy, 11-week-old baby should be directly killed."
Jimmy

Minneapolis, MN

#17 Dec 21, 2010
Here come thie anti-Catholic bigots, spewing their hate.
name

San Francisco, CA

#18 Dec 21, 2010
Annie wrote:
Is that Dr. Bishop Thomas Olmsted? No? Then please,****.
Why do you care if the church removes its affiliation with the hospital?
honest

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Dec 21, 2010
Thanks for the hospital.. they have compassion at least.
DFD

New York, NY

#20 Dec 21, 2010
And this is just another reason that I am not able to embrace the religious upbringing I had in the catholic church.What a bunch of self rightous hippocrates. The abuse of many and the inequities within the catholic church to women are unbearable. Thank God there are reasonable people such as those on the ethics board of St. Joseph's out there saving lives while the catholic church seems hell bent on ruining and ruling all.
Another example

Minneapolis, MN

#21 Dec 21, 2010
Of why that regeligion is archaic and not with the times. Their beliefs are the reason I no longer belong.
Concerto

Saint Paul, MN

#22 Dec 21, 2010
Yet again a decision between a patient and her doctor is trampled on by people who have nothing to do with the patient.

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