What's a Fundy?

[NitaM]

By definition here a Fundy is anyone who protests against the Roman Catholic Church and is "Outside the Catholic Church necessary for Salvation"
If you are in a man made cult, such as a Baptist, Methodist, Church of God, Penticostal, Evangelical, etc. you are endangering your soul...get out of that fakulus "christian" religion as most of your pastors are drunk with greed and deceitfully lying about the one True Catholic Church founded by Jesus in the 1st Century. Pray for discernment of the real truth concerning your soul and search ferverently for the "real Christianity of the Church that Jesus speaks of in the Bible.

I pray for you Fundy's to come to your senses and unite with the Church once again to defeat extremists jihadists in the global community. God help us to come together in unity and peace.

[NitaM]

A site for Christians willing to consider the compelling scriptural and historical evidence for the Catholic faith.

http://www.onechurch.org/

[NitaM]

Today I consider most Fundy's jackasses. HeHau! HeHau! Truth is right in front of their protestant eyes, "Outside the Church there is no Salvation." Still these Fundy's go on PROTESTING God's Holy Catholic Church established for them by Jesus until His return. Their man made reformation religion is an obamanation to God and speaks volumes of the audacity of their pastors of 33,000+ protestant faith to spread lies and errors concerning Roman Catholicism. Shamefully misguiding their flocks to believe such AntiCatholic rubbish and shake up Christianity by offshooting from the Catholic Church. Fundy's wake up and smell the incense as time is running out of your lives to realize what you're doing to your very souls...condemning them to hell. Once saved always saved is unbiblical and never agreed upon in the Bible either.

Sola scriptura and Tradition
Jn 21:25: not everything is in the Bible.
2 Thess 2:15; 2 Tim 2:2; 1 Cor 11:2; 1 Thess 2:13: Paul speaks of oral tradition.
Acts 2:42: early Christians followed apostolic tradition.
2 Pet 3:16: Bible hard to understand; believers must be taught.
2 Jn 1:12; 3 Jn 1:13-14: more oral tradition.
2 Pet 1:20-21: against personal interpretation.
Acts 8:31; Heb 5:12: guidance needed to interpret scriptures.

I pray ya'll Fundy's stop being jackasses too.

[Monettan]

Call me silly, but the Church founded by Christ while he was alive and walking on Earth is the place for me! I thank God I was born Catholic and remain true.

[Lutheran]

NitaM wrote:

By definition here a Fundy is anyone who protests against the Roman Catholic Church and is "Outside the Catholic Church necessary for Salvation"
If you are in a man made cult, such as a Baptist, Methodist, Church of God, Penticostal, Evangelical, etc. you are endangering your soul...get out of that fakulus "christian" religion as most of your pastors are drunk with greed and deceitfully lying about the one True Catholic Church founded by Jesus in the 1st Century. Pray for discernment of the real truth concerning your soul and search ferverently for the "real Christianity of the Church that Jesus speaks of in the Bible.
I pray for you Fundy's to come to your senses and unite with the Church once again to defeat extremists jihadists in the global community. God help us to come together in unity and peace.

I know this was posted months ago, but I have a question. Do you consider Lutheran to be a "cult" as well? If so, do you believe that I will go to hell because I'm a Lutheran?

[true liberty]

NitaM wrote:

By definition here a Fundy is anyone who protests against the Roman Catholic Church and is "Outside the Catholic Church necessary for Salvation"
If you are in a man made cult, such as a Baptist, Methodist, Church of God, Penticostal, Evangelical, etc. you are endangering your soul...get out of that fakulus "christian" religion as most of your pastors are drunk with greed and deceitfully lying about the one True Catholic Church founded by Jesus in the 1st Century. Pray for discernment of the real truth concerning your soul and search ferverently for the "real Christianity of the Church that Jesus speaks of in the Bible.
I pray for you Fundy's to come to your senses and unite with the Church once again to defeat extremists jihadists in the global community. God help us to come together in unity and peace.

The church you say was founded by Christ as the RC Church is not the same as it was in - say -- AD325. Certain beliefs about Mary, beliefs about Peter being the first pope, beliefs about purgatory etc were nonexistant then. The true church never changes.

A fundy as you call them are concerned about the fundamentals of the Christian faith - salvation by grace through faith in Christ, the Bible as the authority and inspired by God, Christ's virgin birth and bodily resurrection and second coming. The essentials of our belief in other words.

Your term evangelical is also generic and Biblical - "evangel" the proclaiming of the good news of the Gospel of Christ. You are for the unity of the faith but you paint such a broad brush of judgmentalism that unity in your definition is impossible except under a rigid definition. Even the Pope calls many Protestants "separated brethren"

The souls who are in danger are the ones following a religious system of ceremonies and penances and pilgrimages and rites -- all the while neglecting or ignoring the full payment for sins Christ provided in His sacrifice for us on the cross. The infinite payment needed cannot be worked by the methods and means of finite man. Especially when finite man attempts to add to the revelation of the Bible that God has provided

[true liberty]

Lutheran wrote:

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I know this was posted months ago, but I have a question. Do you consider Lutheran to be a "cult" as well? If so, do you believe that I will go to hell because I'm a Lutheran?

I can't speak for Nita - but anyone who is trusting in Christ's payment for sins on the cross is a Christian and will go to heaven - a gift of God's grace.

If you are serving Christ and sharing His love - God bless you. Christians are found in many churches - however many lost persons are found there also, mainly because they are trusting in their church attendance and trusting that their church is the right one.

[Dan Dougherty]

"Fundie" = a compliment from the Lord God. It is a term used by those who cannot comprehend the "simplicity that is in Christ." They have never experienced the unmerited favor of God and cling to the works of sinful mens' hands to purchase their salvation. The R.C.C. has, and still is, leading MILLIONS down the path to Hell! It is a false, works-oriented religion, which mimics true Christianity.

[Dan Dougherty]

true liberty wrote:

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The church you say was founded by Christ as the RC Church is not the same as it was in - say -- AD325. Certain beliefs about Mary, beliefs about Peter being the first pope, beliefs about purgatory etc were nonexistant then. The true church never changes.
A fundy as you call them are concerned about the fundamentals of the Christian faith - salvation by grace through faith in Christ, the Bible as the authority and inspired by God, Christ's virgin birth and bodily resurrection and second coming. The essentials of our belief in other words.
Your term evangelical is also generic and Biblical - "evangel" the proclaiming of the good news of the Gospel of Christ. You are for the unity of the faith but you paint such a broad brush of judgmentalism that unity in your definition is impossible except under a rigid definition. Even the Pope calls many Protestants "separated brethren"
The souls who are in danger are the ones following a religious system of ceremonies and penances and pilgrimages and rites -- all the while neglecting or ignoring the full payment for sins Christ provided in His sacrifice for us on the cross. The infinite payment needed cannot be worked by the methods and means of finite man. Especially when finite man attempts to add to the revelation of the Bible that God has provided

Yes, the True Church, which murdered more people in the name of Jesus Christ than any other institution in history. The R.C.C. is the greatest counterfeit of Christianity ever designed! Many a pope, who claims to the the vicar (substitute) of Christ has committed heinous sins and lived immoral & deceitful lives. Are you going to join them in Hell?

[CatholicPatriot]

Actually, most protestants aren't fundamentalists.

I would say among the protestants, the fundamentalists are a very loud minority.

[CatholicPatriot]

Lutheran wrote:

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I know this was posted months ago, but I have a question. Do you consider Lutheran to be a "cult" as well? If so, do you believe that I will go to hell because I'm a Lutheran?

The church doesn't teach that you are definitely going to hell because you are separated from the true church. In general, it doesn't hold out much hope for the salvation of anyone outside the church.

Lutherans aren't hated nor does the church condem you as apostates which you are not because you were never in the church, nor does the church condem you as a heretic because while your faith may be the product of the heresy of another, you never were taught the true faith.

[Lutheran]

[quote]you never were taught the true faith.[/quote]

CatholicPatriot,
What is the "true faith"? Other than the name and the praying to saints, how do our religions differ (if you happen to know)?

In one of the creeds we have, we confess to believing in "the one true catholic church".

Martin Luther was a Catholic. From what I understand, all he did was read the Bible, compare it to what the Catholic church was teaching at the time, and remove whatever did not coincide. He just wanted a reform of the Catholic church. Can you blame him for objecting to the selling of indulgences? Nowadays I understand the Catholic church to be better, but I still would not want to convert. I've gone to a mass before ... the emphasis on the "church" was ... unsettling. I much prefer there to be an emphasis on Jesus and the Bible which is what my church does.

I have another question. I have a number of Catholic friends. Probably 90% of those that were raised hard-core, go-to-church-every-weekend Catholics have now turned non-Christian. The rest of them believe that anyone can go to heaven regardless of being Christian or not. Is it just coincidence that I know so many like this, or is this a wide-spread thing?

[true liberty]

Lutheran wrote:

[quote]you never were taught the true faith.[/quote]
CatholicPatriot,
What is the "true faith"? Other than the name and the praying to saints, how do our religions differ (if you happen to know)?
In one of the creeds we have, we confess to believing in "the one true catholic church".
Martin Luther was a Catholic. From what I understand, all he did was read the Bible, compare it to what the Catholic church was teaching at the time, and remove whatever did not coincide. He just wanted a reform of the Catholic church. Can you blame him for objecting to the selling of indulgences? Nowadays I understand the Catholic church to be better, but I still would not want to convert. I've gone to a mass before ... the emphasis on the "church" was ... unsettling. I much prefer there to be an emphasis on Jesus and the Bible which is what my church does.
I have another question. I have a number of Catholic friends. Probably 90% of those that were raised hard-core, go-to-church-every-weekend Catholics have now turned non-Christian. The rest of them believe that anyone can go to heaven regardless of being Christian or not. Is it just coincidence that I know so many like this, or is this a wide-spread thing?

I believe these occurrances are very common. Many who were trusting in church membership and attendance, Catholic or not, become disillusioned with church leadership or crisis events in their lives cause them to question God and church and the whole religious scene and so they decide it's not worth it.

These are the ones who possibly may grow up as church-goers and then because of academic influence have decided it's not rational to believe in churchianity and christianity. They have never trusted completely in the salvation of Christ so they have no answer to the world's temptations and persuadings.

The others you mentions have rebelled against being "narrow-minded" and "judgmental". Many Catholics went to public schools and CCD - not Catholic schools-- and so many are unfamiliar with the teaching that only in Catholicism is salvation. So they maybe only do the "Easter duty" of going to church occasionally or only on Easter - eventually following their own spirituality practices etc

[Pax et bonum]

Dan Dougherty wrote:

"Fundie" = a compliment from the Lord God. It is a term used by those who cannot comprehend the "simplicity that is in Christ." They have never experienced the unmerited favor of God and cling to the works of sinful mens' hands to purchase their salvation. The R.C.C. has, and still is, leading MILLIONS down the path to Hell! It is a false, works-oriented religion, which mimics true Christianity.

Written by an example of a "fundie". Do you really believe that the term was coined by God Himself? I would imagine He has better things to do. I did leave the Catholic church to embrace fundamentalist simplicity. Praise God He led me back to my true home as a Catholic. I as a Catholic have not and am not called on to "purchase my salvation." Only those raised on "Chick" tracts and other erronious misconceptions of Catholicism go into this kind of thinking about Catholics.

[Pax et bonum]

Sorry for the double post my laptop must have gliched.

[Obi Won]

Lutheran wrote:

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I know this was posted months ago, but I have a question. Do you consider Lutheran to be a "cult" as well? If so, do you believe that I will go to hell because I'm a Lutheran?

According to the definition given here, I guess they would be a cult.

[CatholicPatriot]

Lutheran wrote:

[quote]you never were taught the true faith.[/quote]
CatholicPatriot,
What is the "true faith"? Other than the name and the praying to saints, how do our religions differ (if you happen to know)?
In one of the creeds we have, we confess to believing in "the one true catholic church".
Martin Luther was a Catholic. From what I understand, all he did was read the Bible, compare it to what the Catholic church was teaching at the time, and remove whatever did not coincide. He just wanted a reform of the Catholic church. Can you blame him for objecting to the selling of indulgences? Nowadays I understand the Catholic church to be better, but I still would not want to convert. I've gone to a mass before ... the emphasis on the "church" was ... unsettling. I much prefer there to be an emphasis on Jesus and the Bible which is what my church does.
I have another question. I have a number of Catholic friends. Probably 90% of those that were raised hard-core, go-to-church-every-weekend Catholics have now turned non-Christian. The rest of them believe that anyone can go to heaven regardless of being Christian or not. Is it just coincidence that I know so many like this, or is this a wide-spread thing?

If Martin Luther only wanted reform, he could have had it by helping the Pope at the time who was leading a reform within the Church.

By what authority did Martin Luther remove anything from the bible?
He certainly can't appeal to his authority as a priest because that authority comes from God thru the church.

Martin Luther actually got in over his head with the local aristocrats who wanted his revolt to get the support of local peasants for a rebellion against the Emperor. Indeed, they tried playing Emperor against Emperor. They just wanted to increase their own holdings, their own wealth, and their own power.

One of the big reasons they didn't like the Emperor was because he was Spanish and he had a male heir. Racism was one of the causes of the revolt.

The Spanish Empire had expelled the Jews from Spain and many went to Germany and Austria so that when the Spanish Emperor became the Holy Roman Emperor and his brother began the dynasty of the Hapsburg Empire, there was already a percentage of the population willing to oppose the Emperors.

You might say it was one of the things that came back to bite the Spanish royal family.
their was

[CatholicPatriot]

true liberty wrote:

<quoted text>
The church you say was founded by Christ as the RC Church is not the same as it was in - say -- AD325. Certain beliefs about Mary, beliefs about Peter being the first pope, beliefs about purgatory etc were nonexistant then. The true church never changes.
A fundy as you call them are concerned about the fundamentals of the Christian faith - salvation by grace through faith in Christ, the Bible as the authority and inspired by God, Christ's virgin birth and bodily resurrection and second coming. The essentials of our belief in other words.
Your term evangelical is also generic and Biblical - "evangel" the proclaiming of the good news of the Gospel of Christ. You are for the unity of the faith but you paint such a broad brush of judgmentalism that unity in your definition is impossible except under a rigid definition. Even the Pope calls many Protestants "separated brethren"
The souls who are in danger are the ones following a religious system of ceremonies and penances and pilgrimages and rites -- all the while neglecting or ignoring the full payment for sins Christ provided in His sacrifice for us on the cross. The infinite payment needed cannot be worked by the methods and means of finite man. Especially when finite man attempts to add to the revelation of the Bible that God has provided

Who gave you the bible? Why do you believe it is teh inspired word of God? What church preserved over teh centuries by copying it by hand long before the printing press was invented?

[Lutheran]

CatholicPatriot wrote:

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By what authority did Martin Luther remove anything from the bible?

Oh, wow, I worded that horribly. I meant he removed things from the church, not the Bible. Sorry.

I am sill wondering what the "true faith" is. If it's a matter of faith and believing, I don't know how we differ. Or do you mean I'm supposed to belong to a Catholic church. Will God be checking for membership cards? He doesn't care what's in our hearts?

[true liberty]

CatholicPatriot wrote:

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Who gave you the bible? Why do you believe it is teh inspired word of God? What church preserved over teh centuries by copying it by hand long before the printing press was invented?

i KNOW you think the RC church gave us the Bible. Yes, there were church councils that met about this issue. Church councils do not mean it was the RC Church, which formed to its present beliefs over time. Acts 15 gives us the Jerusalem council.
God says the Bible is inspired. It is the Holy Spirit that affirms the truth of the Bible to our hearts