Catholic Church Waging War on Women and Gays

[June VanDerMark]

David Barton: People Are On Welfare Because They Don't Read The Bible

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/davi...

[June VanDerMark]

Note the arrogant claim of the Dalai Lama "heavy with knowledge."
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You are called the 'living Buddha'...?

The term 'living Buddha' is a translation of the Chinese word 'ho fu'. In Tibetan, the operative word is 'lama' which means 'guru'. A guru is someone who is not necessarily a Buddha but is heavy with knowledge. I believe that previous Dalai Lamas were manifestations of Avalokiteshwara (the Buddha of compassion) and the fifth Dalai Lama is believed to be an incarnation of Manjushree. I am fortunate to be the reincarnation of all these great lamas!(laughs)

http://www.lifepositive.com/spirit/world-reli...

[June VanDerMark]

Earth Child 1 wrote:

<quoted text>Welcome back, June! That theory has changed with the advancement of technology and new discoveries unearthed. Scientists and archaeologists are saying that the continental cultures as Asia, Europe, Africa, Americas, etc…. all developed independently, which makes a lot more sense. I guess this blows the Genesis story now.

Thank you.

Anything's possible, but my guess is white people evolved from the dark races, and not the other way around.

[Earth Child 1]

June VanDerMark wrote:

David Barton: People Are On Welfare Because They Don't Read The Bible
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/davi...

More bull crap! Fundies are always trying to squeeze the bible into everything that happens, which has nothing to do with the circumstances, to gain more followers. Geez, did the bible have anything to do with jobs going over seas to China and a messed up economy due to greed? Money is the god for the greedy and people suffer when there are no jobs. A bible doesn’t pay for the putting a roof over a family’s head, food on the table, take care of medical bills, etc…….. The guy is stupid!

[Earth Child 1]

June VanDerMark wrote:

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Thank you.
Anything's possible, but my guess is white people evolved from the dark races, and not the other way around.

What they are saying is that one did not come from the other. They came into existence separately.

[June VanDerMark]

Gary wrote:

<quoted text>Welcome back June Bug, we thought you had died and went to Heaven or something:)

Thanks ... but please don't wish such a nasty ending for me.

I would like to believe that by me showing such restraint on earth in not murdering preachers ... if there just happens to be an afterlife ... I am entitled to some peace.

And if the likes of Jerry Falwell resides in heaven ... I fear I will be in for an "eternal" round of his nauseating sermons.

:)

[June VanDerMark]

Earth Child 1 wrote:

<quoted text>More bull crap! Fundies are always trying to squeeze the bible into everything that happens, which has nothing to do with the circumstances, to gain more followers. Geez, did the bible have anything to do with jobs going over seas to China and a messed up economy due to greed? Money is the god for the greedy and people suffer when there are no jobs. A bible doesn’t pay for the putting a roof over a family’s head, food on the table, take care of medical bills, etc…….. The guy is stupid!

The devil is behind everything. That's why the devout believers want to leave earth and go to a place where they will be appreciated for their sublime purity and holiness.

Only the evil ones such as you and I deserve the mess made on earth.

Arrogance is really something to behold.

:)

[June VanDerMark]

Earth Child 1 wrote:

<quoted text>What they are saying is that one did not come from the other. They came into existence separately.

And from my perspective, that theory seems feasible.

[June VanDerMark]

It's not likely that John perceived that "poor human reason" had anything in common with being his own problem.
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Poor human reason, when it trusts in itself, substitutes the strangest absurdities for the highest divine concepts.

John Chrysostom

[June VanDerMark]

Earth Child 1 wrote:

<quoted text>What they are saying is that one did not come from the other. They came into existence separately.

Unlike other animals, where they cannot impregnate those of other species, human animals can mix with any other human animals and make babies of mixed races.

That leads me to believe that it is possible we all came from the same lineage.

What do you make of that issue?

[Jumper]

June VanDerMark wrote:

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You mean "punishment" ... don't you Jumper?
:)

Well...back to normal.

[June VanDerMark]

Whatever pleased the preachers is what the followers were expected to believe was the will of "god." And as the rules changed with the wills of men, the followers kept on, and to this day ... keep on following.
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From the book "The Comfortable Pew," by Pierre Burton comes the following....... Published in 1965.

A Puritan Village in 1680.......

Curiously enough, these harsh restrictions on perfectly natural and human pleasures did not apply to liquor drinking. People who got drunk were, of course, taken up and fined or set in the stocks; and the taverns had to close at the curfew hour and also on the Sabbath, but otherwise there was no curb on all drinking. As a matter of fact, everyone drank liquor, or beer or cider--and that really meant everyone from ministers and magistrates down to the nursemaids and two-year-old babies.

The ordination of a new minister always meant a tremendous drinking bout. When Reverend Edwin Jackson was ordained at Woburn, the itemized list of expenses on that occasion show that the congregation drank six and a half barrels of cider, twenty-five gallons of wine, two gallons of brandy and four gallons of rum.

In Northampton in 1737 a new meetinghouse was built. Sixty men worked on it a week. During the week they consumed sixty-nine gallons of rum and thirty-six pounds of sugar, besides several barrels of beer and cider_______

[June VanDerMark]

Jumper wrote:

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Well...back to normal.

OH ... please don't tell me that you are going to start preaching about your own holiness and how much Jesus loves you ... AGAIN!

How many times can you keep telling yourself that a Jewish savior materialized on earth from a Jewish god to save only Christians ... before you assess that picture as hanging crooked on your mental WALL?

:)

[June VanDerMark]

From the book, "The Way Our People Lived," ... An intimate American history, by William E. Woodward, published 1944, comes the following ...

The Puritan temperament was deeply tinctured with an inclination towards needless self-torture. Their ministers seldom preached of the joys of heaven; the emphasis in the sermon was laid on the tortures and terrors of hell. Jonathan Edwards-the most famous of colonial divines, declared that God takes delight in the suffering of poor lost sinners.

Those elected for goodness, having fought in this world against evil, would in the next life be lifted up to an infinite happiness; and, looking down out of heaven, they would realize their own ecstasy by contrasting it with the infinite misery of the sinners in the flames of hell.________

[Earth Child 1]

June VanDerMark wrote:

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Unlike other animals, where they cannot impregnate those of other species, human animals can mix with any other human animals and make babies of mixed races.
That leads me to believe that it is possible we all came from the same lineage.
What do you make of that issue?

Well, I’m looking at the skull structures from different continents and how different they are. Also, 20,000 years ago, travel across the sea to another continent, far as we know to date, wasn’t mastered. Now, early humans did walk across the Bering Strait, when it was exposed, from Asia into America about 30,000 years ago.

[Lacy]

Country singer Carrie Underwood and her husband Nashville Hockey player star Mike Fisher said their church is gay friendly.

Jun 12 2012 10:36 AM EDT 170
Carrie Underwood Comes Out In Support Of Same-Sex Marriage
'As a married person myself, I don't know what it's like to be told I can't marry somebody I love,' Underwood says.
By Gil Kaufman

Carrie Underwood is the latest public figure to come out in support of gay marriage. Joining the likes of Jay-Z, Snooki and JWoww
and the Wanted
, the country superstar told England's The Independent that she believes same-sex couples should have the same rights as she does.

"As a married person myself, I don't know what it's like to be told I can't marry somebody I love, and want to marry," she said. "I can't imagine how that must feel. I definitely think we should all have the right to love, and love publicly, the people that we want to love."

The paper noted that Underwood, who has just released a new album Blown Away
, has a large Evangelical Christian fanbase and has spoken frequently about her faith, making it the subject of one of her biggest hits, "Jesus Take The Wheel." She told the paper that her liberal attitude about same-sex marriage is actually a result of her Christian values, not in conflict with them.

"Our church is gay friendly," said Underwood, 29, who was raised as Baptist, a denomination that tends to condemn sexual behavior, but who now worships in a non-denomination congregation with hockey-player husband Mike Fisher. "Above all, God wanted us to love others. It's not about setting rules, or [saying]'everyone has to be like me'. No. We're all different. That's what makes us special. We have to love each other and get on with each other. It's not up to me to judge anybody."

Underwood's comments come in the midst of a presidential campaign in which gay marriage is likely to be a hot-button issue. President Barack Obama
recently said that he personally supports same-sex unions while rival Republican Mitt Romney has spoken out against gay marriage.

[June VanDerMark]

Earth Child 1 wrote:

<quoted text>Well, I’m looking at the skull structures from different continents and how different they are. Also, 20,000 years ago, travel across the sea to another continent, far as we know to date, wasn’t mastered. Now, early humans did walk across the Bering Strait, when it was exposed, from Asia into America about 30,000 years ago.

But what do you think about the issue that I mentioned? Don't you think it would be odd that humans all match up with each other to reproduce, if we didn't all come from the same lineage?

[June VanDerMark]

Lacy wrote:

Country singer Carrie Underwood and her husband Nashville Hockey player star Mike Fisher said their church is gay friendly.

Yet they USE the same bible that supposedly ordered the stoning to death of homosexuals.

People are determined to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

[Earth Child 1]

June VanDerMark wrote:

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But what do you think about the issue that I mentioned? Don't you think it would be odd that humans all match up with each other to reproduce, if we didn't all come from the same lineage?

You are correct that all surviving humans are of the same specie and therefore able to reproduce. I am proposing that some of the Ardipithecus forebears left the Olduvai Gorge area and traveled the coast to Southeast Asia, Australia, Siberia etc. We all then evolved into homo Sapiens (and some into homo Neanderthalensis*), but not necessarily all of us in the Olduvai Gorge of Tanzania.

*It's interesting to note that paleogeneticists are looking into the possibility that the Neanderthal blood line did not die out completely! In Germany, recently excavated humanoid bones seem to indicate a Sapiens-Neanderthalensis mix.

[Jumper]

June VanDerMark wrote:

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People are determined to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Oh yea.How was that spa you went to over the weekend?